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ronwagn January 11th 05 07:58 AM

"Recreational Boats" as your first kayak
 
Started out with inflatable Kayaks from Wal Mart. They were Colemans
for about $60. I thoroughly enjoyed them, but they were slow. I moved
up to a Perception Swifty. I recently tipped over in a rapid , and
think I would have done better in the Coleman. I am thinking that I
need several kayaks of various types to meet my needs. I want to do all
sorts of kayaking including SOTs . Is there something wrong with this
thinking? I also want to do kayak sailing and Kite sailing! I am 59
years old and want to take lessons of all sorts.
William R. Watt wrote:
Randy Hodges ) writes:
John,

You have made many good points. And I could respond to each but my
guess is that this thread has about reached its useful limit.

My overall point has been and will continue to be that many/most
people will enter this sport by buying a recreational kayak. When

we
as a community show disdain to them, we are often loosing a great
opportunity to bring them into a world of better boats, better
training, and increased safety.

My other point is that many people do not intend on ever "pushing

the
limits" - Rec Boats are a good choice for them.

Randy


last weekend I attended a "fun" canoe race on a local river during

spring
runoff. most of the paddlers did not know how to navigate a river. I

chose
a spot to watch the race where I knew there were rocks in the river.

I
haven't laughed so much in a long time. one canoe would head right

for
curling waves in the centre of the river and a whole bunch would

follow
right behind, ignoring the deep water "V"'s to each side. it was kind

of
sad watching those expensive canoes being banged and scraped over the
rocks. it was a joy to watch a few skilled paddlers pick the fastest

clear
path down the river. in an affluent society people have more money

than
sense.

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Mike B January 11th 05 11:34 PM

Nothing wrong with owning all sorts of boats!
"ronwagn" wrote in message
ups.com...
Started out with inflatable Kayaks from Wal Mart. They were Colemans
for about $60. I thoroughly enjoyed them, but they were slow. I moved
up to a Perception Swifty. I recently tipped over in a rapid , and
think I would have done better in the Coleman. I am thinking that I
need several kayaks of various types to meet my needs. I want to do all
sorts of kayaking including SOTs . Is there something wrong with this
thinking? I also want to do kayak sailing and Kite sailing! I am 59
years old and want to take lessons of all sorts.
William R. Watt wrote:
Randy Hodges ) writes:
John,

You have made many good points. And I could respond to each but my
guess is that this thread has about reached its useful limit.

My overall point has been and will continue to be that many/most
people will enter this sport by buying a recreational kayak. When

we
as a community show disdain to them, we are often loosing a great
opportunity to bring them into a world of better boats, better
training, and increased safety.

My other point is that many people do not intend on ever "pushing

the
limits" - Rec Boats are a good choice for them.

Randy


last weekend I attended a "fun" canoe race on a local river during

spring
runoff. most of the paddlers did not know how to navigate a river. I

chose
a spot to watch the race where I knew there were rocks in the river.

I
haven't laughed so much in a long time. one canoe would head right

for
curling waves in the centre of the river and a whole bunch would

follow
right behind, ignoring the deep water "V"'s to each side. it was kind

of
sad watching those expensive canoes being banged and scraped over the
rocks. it was a joy to watch a few skilled paddlers pick the fastest

clear
path down the river. in an affluent society people have more money

than
sense.

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No Spam January 12th 05 12:41 AM

Depends what you can sneak in the garage and claim "No, I've had that for
years. It's not another new boat, I just cleaned it up a little".

Ken

"Mike B" wrote in message
...
Nothing wrong with owning all sorts of boats!
"ronwagn" wrote in message
ups.com...
Started out with inflatable Kayaks from Wal Mart. They were Colemans
for about $60. I thoroughly enjoyed them, but they were slow. I moved
up to a Perception Swifty. I recently tipped over in a rapid , and
think I would have done better in the Coleman. I am thinking that I
need several kayaks of various types to meet my needs. I want to do all
sorts of kayaking including SOTs . Is there something wrong with this
thinking? I also want to do kayak sailing and Kite sailing! I am 59
years old and want to take lessons of all sorts.
William R. Watt wrote:
Randy Hodges ) writes:
John,

You have made many good points. And I could respond to each but my
guess is that this thread has about reached its useful limit.

My overall point has been and will continue to be that many/most
people will enter this sport by buying a recreational kayak. When

we
as a community show disdain to them, we are often loosing a great
opportunity to bring them into a world of better boats, better
training, and increased safety.

My other point is that many people do not intend on ever "pushing

the
limits" - Rec Boats are a good choice for them.

Randy

last weekend I attended a "fun" canoe race on a local river during

spring
runoff. most of the paddlers did not know how to navigate a river. I

chose
a spot to watch the race where I knew there were rocks in the river.

I
haven't laughed so much in a long time. one canoe would head right

for
curling waves in the centre of the river and a whole bunch would

follow
right behind, ignoring the deep water "V"'s to each side. it was kind

of
sad watching those expensive canoes being banged and scraped over the
rocks. it was a joy to watch a few skilled paddlers pick the fastest

clear
path down the river. in an affluent society people have more money

than
sense.

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James Hill January 16th 05 01:55 PM

I think that having several boats is a good idea. I have always kept my
first "rec" boat, a Perception America, and use it for novices or for
fairly calm rivers. I have a Current Designs Caribou I use on any large
body of water, and an inflatable that I use on class 1-3 rivers.

Jim

"ronwagn" wrote in message
ups.com...
Started out with inflatable Kayaks from Wal Mart. They were Colemans
for about $60. I thoroughly enjoyed them, but they were slow. I moved
up to a Perception Swifty. I recently tipped over in a rapid , and
think I would have done better in the Coleman. I am thinking that I
need several kayaks of various types to meet my needs. I want to do all
sorts of kayaking including SOTs . Is there something wrong with this
thinking? I also want to do kayak sailing and Kite sailing! I am 59
years old and want to take lessons of all sorts.
William R. Watt wrote:
Randy Hodges ) writes:
John,

You have made many good points. And I could respond to each but my
guess is that this thread has about reached its useful limit.

My overall point has been and will continue to be that many/most
people will enter this sport by buying a recreational kayak. When

we
as a community show disdain to them, we are often loosing a great
opportunity to bring them into a world of better boats, better
training, and increased safety.

My other point is that many people do not intend on ever "pushing

the
limits" - Rec Boats are a good choice for them.

Randy


last weekend I attended a "fun" canoe race on a local river during

spring
runoff. most of the paddlers did not know how to navigate a river. I

chose
a spot to watch the race where I knew there were rocks in the river.

I
haven't laughed so much in a long time. one canoe would head right

for
curling waves in the centre of the river and a whole bunch would

follow
right behind, ignoring the deep water "V"'s to each side. it was kind

of
sad watching those expensive canoes being banged and scraped over the
rocks. it was a joy to watch a few skilled paddlers pick the fastest

clear
path down the river. in an affluent society people have more money

than
sense.

--

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network
website: www.ncf.ca/~ag384 "Tank, take

me in."

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