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Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
My wife bought me a shadow box in which to place a collection of knots. If
you've ever been to Horatio's in San Leandro, CA you know just what I mean. At any rate, I'm interested in knots of significance that I should include in this collection. I do have Ashley's Book of Knots. It certainly appears to be the definitive source on knots, but there is no list of 'Significant Knots'. I expect the completed display will be between 15 and 25 knots. I have chosen 3 knots for this project so far. They a Figure( of ) Eight, Reef, and Bowline. Why? Because they seem to me to be essential knots to know. Which knots would you include? How about your 'top 25'? And if you care to explain, why should the knot be included? Please note that my 'reply to' email address is not valid, so if you're inclined to reply please do so to the newsgroup. Thank You, Doug |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
"Doug" wrote in message news:EA4Lb.773340$Tr4.2227159@attbi_s03... My wife bought me a shadow box in which to place a collection of knots. If you've ever been to Horatio's in San Leandro, CA you know just what I mean. At any rate, I'm interested in knots of significance that I should include in this collection. I do have Ashley's Book of Knots. It certainly appears to be the definitive source on knots, but there is no list of 'Significant Knots'. I expect the completed display will be between 15 and 25 knots. I have chosen 3 knots for this project so far. They a Figure( of ) Eight, Reef, and Bowline. Why? Because they seem to me to be essential knots to know. Which knots would you include? How about your 'top 25'? And if you care to explain, why should the knot be included? Please note that my 'reply to' email address is not valid, so if you're inclined to reply please do so to the newsgroup. Thank You, Doug http://www.cabelas.com/information/c...ing-Knots.html http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...photoho sting http://www.bricabrac.co.uk/nautical/article1.shtml?14 http://www.mistral.co.uk/42brghtn/knots/42ktlink.html http://dmoz.org/Reference/Knots/ http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/Snuggly...lls/knots.html http://www.blacklakeny.com/boatknots.html http://www.mistral.co.uk/42brghtn/knots/42ktmenu.html http://directory.google.com/Top/Reference/Knots/ http://www.catamaranvega.com/vega/sa.../lesson16.html http://www.directory.net/Reference/Knots/ http://www.seascout.org/about/progra...e_5_knots.html http://deepcreekyachtclub.com/WebPage/knotmenu.html Mark Browne |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:59:32 GMT, "Doug" wrote:
My wife bought me a shadow box in which to place a collection of knots. If you've ever been to Horatio's in San Leandro, CA you know just what I mean. At any rate, I'm interested in knots of significance that I should include in this collection. I do have Ashley's Book of Knots. It certainly appears to be the definitive source on knots, but there is no list of 'Significant Knots'. I expect the completed display will be between 15 and 25 knots. I have chosen 3 knots for this project so far. They a Figure( of ) Eight, Reef, and Bowline. Why? Because they seem to me to be essential knots to know. Which knots would you include? How about your 'top 25'? And if you care to explain, why should the knot be included? 25 is too many. I would add: Double overhand - a much better stopper knot that a figure 8 Rolling Hitch - to assist in getting rid of overrides Double sheet bend - for joining lines Round turn and two half hitches - docking and attaching fenders Clove hitch - temporarily tying a line to a spar or a life line Cow hitch - for tying sails to stanchions Bowline on a bight - emergency bosun's chair (really uncomfortable) Jack __________________________________________________ Jack Dale Swiftsure Sailing Academy Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor http://www.swiftsuresailing.com Phone: 1 (877) 470-SAIL (toll free) __________________________________________________ |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
Is that it? Can't think of any more knot links? Sheesh!
Actually, that's an archivable message. Great resources. Here's one mo http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/knotlink.htm "Mark Browne" wrote in message news:J15Lb.780363$Fm2.759460@attbi_s04... "Doug" wrote in message news:EA4Lb.773340$Tr4.2227159@attbi_s03... My wife bought me a shadow box in which to place a collection of knots. If you've ever been to Horatio's in San Leandro, CA you know just what I mean. At any rate, I'm interested in knots of significance that I should include in this collection. I do have Ashley's Book of Knots. It certainly appears to be the definitive source on knots, but there is no list of 'Significant Knots'. I expect the completed display will be between 15 and 25 knots. I have chosen 3 knots for this project so far. They a Figure( of ) Eight, Reef, and Bowline. Why? Because they seem to me to be essential knots to know. Which knots would you include? How about your 'top 25'? And if you care to explain, why should the knot be included? Please note that my 'reply to' email address is not valid, so if you're inclined to reply please do so to the newsgroup. Thank You, Doug http://www.cabelas.com/information/c...ing-Knots.html http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...photoho sting http://www.bricabrac.co.uk/nautical/article1.shtml?14 http://www.mistral.co.uk/42brghtn/knots/42ktlink.html http://dmoz.org/Reference/Knots/ http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/Snuggly...lls/knots.html http://www.blacklakeny.com/boatknots.html http://www.mistral.co.uk/42brghtn/knots/42ktmenu.html http://directory.google.com/Top/Reference/Knots/ http://www.catamaranvega.com/vega/sa.../lesson16.html http://www.directory.net/Reference/Knots/ http://www.seascout.org/about/progra...e_5_knots.html http://deepcreekyachtclub.com/WebPage/knotmenu.html Mark Browne |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:59:32 GMT, "Doug" wrote:
My wife bought me a shadow box in which to place a collection of knots. If you've ever been to Horatio's in San Leandro, CA you know just what I mean. At any rate, I'm interested in knots of significance that I should include in this collection. I do have Ashley's Book of Knots. It certainly appears to be the definitive source on knots, but there is no list of 'Significant Knots'. I expect the completed display will be between 15 and 25 knots. I have chosen 3 knots for this project so far. They a Figure( of ) Eight, Reef, and Bowline. Why? Because they seem to me to be essential knots to know. Which knots would you include? How about your 'top 25'? And if you care to explain, why should the knot be included? Please note that my 'reply to' email address is not valid, so if you're inclined to reply please do so to the newsgroup. The most significant knot ever: The Noose. :) Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "My rod and my reel - they comfort me." St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 05:59:48 GMT, Jack Dale
wrote: I would add: Double overhand - a much better stopper knot that a figure 8 Rolling Hitch - to assist in getting rid of overrides Double sheet bend - for joining lines Round turn and two half hitches - docking and attaching fenders Clove hitch - temporarily tying a line to a spar or a life line Cow hitch - for tying sails to stanchions Bowline on a bight - emergency bosun's chair (really uncomfortable) ================================================== ===== Good suggestions. I would add: double sheepshank (for shortening a line in a pinch). anchor bend (for anything that must NOT come untied). tautline hitch (adjustability) carrick bend (decorative) monkey fist (heaving line) cleat knot (docking) |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
Actually, I do appreciate Mark's reply, though I expected some explanation
of why these knots belong in a 'significant' collection. I was originally vague on purpose. I expected this newsgroup to respond with nautical bias for obvious reasons. I do want this particular project to be nautically oriented, but might want to try another without nautical bias. But that's for another time and another newsgroup. Thanks to all, Doug "Keith" wrote in message ... Is that it? Can't think of any more knot links? Sheesh! Actually, that's an archivable message. Great resources. Here's one mo http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/knotlink.htm "Mark Browne" wrote in message news:J15Lb.780363$Fm2.759460@attbi_s04... "Doug" wrote in message news:EA4Lb.773340$Tr4.2227159@attbi_s03... My wife bought me a shadow box in which to place a collection of knots. If you've ever been to Horatio's in San Leandro, CA you know just what I mean. At any rate, I'm interested in knots of significance that I should include in this collection. I do have Ashley's Book of Knots. It certainly appears to be the definitive source on knots, but there is no list of 'Significant Knots'. I expect the completed display will be between 15 and 25 knots. I have chosen 3 knots for this project so far. They a Figure( of ) Eight, Reef, and Bowline. Why? Because they seem to me to be essential knots to know. Which knots would you include? How about your 'top 25'? And if you care to explain, why should the knot be included? Please note that my 'reply to' email address is not valid, so if you're inclined to reply please do so to the newsgroup. Thank You, Doug http://www.cabelas.com/information/c...ibrary-Camping -Knots.html http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotoho sti ng http://www.bricabrac.co.uk/nautical/article1.shtml?14 http://www.mistral.co.uk/42brghtn/knots/42ktlink.html http://dmoz.org/Reference/Knots/ http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/Snuggly...lls/knots.html http://www.blacklakeny.com/boatknots.html http://www.mistral.co.uk/42brghtn/knots/42ktmenu.html http://directory.google.com/Top/Reference/Knots/ http://www.catamaranvega.com/vega/sa.../lesson16.html http://www.directory.net/Reference/Knots/ http://www.seascout.org/about/progra...e_5_knots.html http://deepcreekyachtclub.com/WebPage/knotmenu.html Mark Browne |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
Jack: I know some of these knots and agree with you on some of on those I do know. I'll look at those I'm not familiar with. I'm curious about your Double Overhand opinion. I understand that the Overhand is prone to jamming. How would you rate a Figure 8 in the,( bitter end ), bight VS. a Double Overhand? Wayne: Thank you also. I am familiar with some of your suggestions and do agree with most. I'll look at those I'm not familiar with. I actually did have the Monkeys Fist in my original list... Why a Double Sheepshank instead of just a Sheepshank? Thanks to all, Doug "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 05:59:48 GMT, Jack Dale wrote: I would add: Double overhand - a much better stopper knot that a figure 8 Rolling Hitch - to assist in getting rid of overrides Double sheet bend - for joining lines Round turn and two half hitches - docking and attaching fenders Clove hitch - temporarily tying a line to a spar or a life line Cow hitch - for tying sails to stanchions Bowline on a bight - emergency bosun's chair (really uncomfortable) ================================================== ===== Good suggestions. I would add: double sheepshank (for shortening a line in a pinch). anchor bend (for anything that must NOT come untied). tautline hitch (adjustability) carrick bend (decorative) monkey fist (heaving line) cleat knot (docking) |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
Where in the Bay Area are you located?
"Doug" wrote in message news:ypJLb.10259$nt4.20317@attbi_s51... Jack: I know some of these knots and agree with you on some of on those I do know. I'll look at those I'm not familiar with. I'm curious about your Double Overhand opinion. I understand that the Overhand is prone to jamming. How would you rate a Figure 8 in the,( bitter end ), bight VS. a Double Overhand? Wayne: Thank you also. I am familiar with some of your suggestions and do agree with most. I'll look at those I'm not familiar with. I actually did have the Monkeys Fist in my original list... Why a Double Sheepshank instead of just a Sheepshank? Thanks to all, Doug "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 05:59:48 GMT, Jack Dale wrote: I would add: Double overhand - a much better stopper knot that a figure 8 Rolling Hitch - to assist in getting rid of overrides Double sheet bend - for joining lines Round turn and two half hitches - docking and attaching fenders Clove hitch - temporarily tying a line to a spar or a life line Cow hitch - for tying sails to stanchions Bowline on a bight - emergency bosun's chair (really uncomfortable) ================================================== ===== Good suggestions. I would add: double sheepshank (for shortening a line in a pinch). anchor bend (for anything that must NOT come untied). tautline hitch (adjustability) carrick bend (decorative) monkey fist (heaving line) cleat knot (docking) |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
Y'know, I might just include that. In my nautical collection as well as the
possible nobn-nautical collection. Thanks, Doug "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:59:32 GMT, "Doug" wrote: My wife bought me a shadow box in which to place a collection of knots. If you've ever been to Horatio's in San Leandro, CA you know just what I mean. At any rate, I'm interested in knots of significance that I should include in this collection. I do have Ashley's Book of Knots. It certainly appears to be the definitive source on knots, but there is no list of 'Significant Knots'. I expect the completed display will be between 15 and 25 knots. I have chosen 3 knots for this project so far. They a Figure( of ) Eight, Reef, and Bowline. Why? Because they seem to me to be essential knots to know. Which knots would you include? How about your 'top 25'? And if you care to explain, why should the knot be included? Please note that my 'reply to' email address is not valid, so if you're inclined to reply please do so to the newsgroup. The most significant knot ever: The Noose. :) Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "My rod and my reel - they comfort me." St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
~~ snippage ~~ The most significant knot ever: The Noose. :) Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "My rod and my reel - they comfort me." St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:31:42 GMT, "Doug" wrote: Y'know, I might just include that. In my nautical collection as well as the possible nobn-nautical collection. By the way, The Noose knot actually has an application beyond it's association with capital punishment - it is basically a lasso with it's many applications. If you are doing a nautical/historical knot board (something that I always wanted to do, but "things" got in the way) you might want to consider the Dropper Knot of which there are a ton of variations, the most popular being the Blood Loop Dropper. Another which dates back to the 16th Century is the Cat's Paw, the Anchor Bend whose use is obvious and origin unknown, the Water Knot which goes all the way back to the 15th Century and finally, the most practical of ancient knots, The Splice - which is a knot. Have fun with your project. Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "My rod and my reel - they comfort me." St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:26:39 GMT, "Doug" wrote:
Why a Double Sheepshank instead of just a Sheepshank? ================================================== == If my memory is correct, a Sheepshank by itself has just a single hitch on each end of the flat coil, and thus requires constant tension to keep it from falling apart. A Double Sheepshank (again from memory) has two hitches on each end, i.e., a virtual clove hitch, and will stay tied even if the line goes slack. Either one is an interesting looking knot for a display board although you'll need relatively small line to tie them compactly. |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
Look up marlinspike seamanship. It should show you a lot of knots!
Fredo |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
Here's my list:
http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/knotindex.html You can pick out which ones you like. As an aside, I'd leave out the sheepshank. It's interesting to look at and fun to tie, but it's really only used by people who don't know any better. Cheers, roo P.S. My e-mail is bogus, too. "Doug" wrote in message news:EA4Lb.773340$Tr4.2227159@attbi_s03... My wife bought me a shadow box in which to place a collection of knots. If you've ever been to Horatio's in San Leandro, CA you know just what I mean. At any rate, I'm interested in knots of significance that I should include in this collection. I do have Ashley's Book of Knots. It certainly appears to be the definitive source on knots, but there is no list of 'Significant Knots'. I expect the completed display will be between 15 and 25 knots. I have chosen 3 knots for this project so far. They a Figure( of ) Eight, Reef, and Bowline. Why? Because they seem to me to be essential knots to know. Which knots would you include? How about your 'top 25'? And if you care to explain, why should the knot be included? Please note that my 'reply to' email address is not valid, so if you're inclined to reply please do so to the newsgroup. Thank You, Doug |
Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
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Significant Knots, or Knotty Knotty
"Doug" wrote in message news:9aJLb.9558$sv6.27473@attbi_s52... Actually, I do appreciate Mark's reply, though I expected some explanation of why these knots belong in a 'significant' collection. I was originally vague on purpose. I expected this newsgroup to respond with nautical bias for obvious reasons. I do want this particular project to be nautically oriented, but might want to try another without nautical bias. But that's for another time and another newsgroup. Thanks to all, Doug snip I learned a fair number of knots in scouting. Got the badge to prove it! The knots I actually use in boating are the overhand, square, clove (and related cleat hitch), lark's head, half hitch (and double half hitch), bowline and sheet bend. I tossed in the shadow box links so you can see what a few other people have done with the same problem. Mark Browne I won't mention the knots I use for fly-fishing for fear of starting a major flame war! |
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