On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 08:10:42 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 07:24:02 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:

What's so much different this time? Is it just that the ideals of liberals
and conservatives have become so polarized? Is it that liberals have
finally amassed a loud enough voice to make enough waves to be felt?

Liberals and conservatives have always been polarized, it's the center
that hasn't been. In my mind, what makes this election different,
especially if Dean is the Democratic candidate, the center will have to
make a decision, go left or go right. Neither of these candidates are
moderates. Bush is very conservative, and Dean is very liberal.

I don't think that mainstream America is ready for a liberal. Liberals
downplay those values and morals that most of the heartland live by.




You still seem to have a problem differentiating a difference in
political ideology with "hate". I have seen nothing that could be
construed as "hate". Just because conservatives do not hold the same value
sets as liberals does not mean that they "hate" anyone. That you would
categorize as such speaks volumes about your bias.

I know too many conservatives to think that hate is a conservative value,
but I will say this, most of the hateful, racist people I know, call
themselves "conservative".

I would call them "intolerant".

Think about this though. If there were an element in society that you
could statistically track, and could link this same element to a
definite decline in living standard, or quality of life, and you spoke
out against it, based on your evidence, would that make you "Hateful"?
Since when do we have to tolerate every element or trend in society?

Dave