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Backing a Trailer behind a camper
Hi,
I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 |
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 You don't need the mirrors when tooling down the highway -- get a set that clamp on, and use them only when backing. A couple of pieces of plastic pipe painted red, and stuck to the rear corners of your trailer )or boat) will help also |
Go with the mirrors.
And not just for backing. How would you plan to make a safe lane change if you can't see what may be alongside your rig? |
You don't need the mirrors when tooling down the highway --
Yes you do. |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Go with the mirrors. And not just for backing. How would you plan to make a safe lane change if you can't see what may be alongside your rig? For the past several years I've had a full sized 2500 series pickup for my primary vehicle. Both of the trucks were equipped with large mirrors with smaller wide angle inserts. I recently traded to a smaller vehicle (2004 Durango - yup, it has a hemi) and felt lost without the ability to see what was behind me. There is actually a blind spot where, if someone is passing, you cannot see them at all in the mirrors. A trip to Auto Zone and the purchase of a couple of stick-on wide angle mirrors solved the problem. Eisboch |
Gould 0738 wrote:
You don't need the mirrors when tooling down the highway -- Yes you do. You don't need the optional trailer towing mirrors -- the stock ones will see the red flashing light as quick as the wide ones. the boat is narrow -- that's why he needs wide mirrors/ |
Mirrors will definetly help but everyone I know that has ever done tandem
towing disconnects before backing (back only one unit at a time). You could get by w/ doing it if your really good at backing, recognize the back item will go the opposite way of the center item, and as long as you cannot see it - it is lined up. When you can just start to see the back unit you need to go the other way. Tony "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 |
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Lloyd Sumpter wrote: The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? I would strongly recommend that you get mirrors that will allow you to keep an eye on the boat when you are travelling as well as for backing up. A few years ago I was following a camper towing an aluminum boat when I noticed that the boat seemed to be bouncing on the trailer so I backed off and fortunately was well back when the boat left the trailer. I stopped long enough to slide the boat off to the side of the road and then tried to catch up to the camper. He was travelling at a pretty good rate so I drove about 10-12 miles before I caught up to him again. Then it took a considerable amount of horn blowing and pointing to the back of his camper before the guy finally stopped. Then he got out of his vehicle and came up to my car swearing and all ****ed off because I had caused him to stop. I finally got a word in that his boat was missing from his trailer and because he couldn't see it from where he was standing he wouldn't believe me and said that couldn't possibly be the case. He finally took a look and then was all apologetic and was very surprised when I told him how far he would have to go back to get his boat. He did mention that he could not see the boat from inside the camper so just assumed that everything was fine. If he had caused an accident I imagine that he would have been in big trouble with both the police and his insurance company. A proper set of trailering mirrors should not have any noticeable effect on mileage compared to the bulk of a camper pushing against the wind. In any event it's a very small cost to insure that things are okay with your boat and trailer. -- Don Dickson |
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... A friend of mine had that problem backing an empty boat trailer down the ramp. I was out in boat and could see that the trailer dropped below the line of vision when starting down the ramp. A guy finally offered to do it for her, and he simply drove way down the wide ramp, turned, and pulled back up the ramp until everything was straight. He then backed it straight down into the water. -- Jon JPinOH poke the "i" out to reply |
Put a cheap bumper hitch on your front bumper and drive it down forward.
Gordon "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 |
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:11:03 +0000, Gould 0738 wrote:
Go with the mirrors. And not just for backing. How would you plan to make a safe lane change if you can't see what may be alongside your rig? Yes, I WILL need larger mirrors for driving. But there's a big difference between seeing what 50 ft behind you and seeing a boat that's narrower than you are, 10 ft back. Someone suggested removable clamp-on mirrors for launching/retrieving, of course in addition to the wider mirrors I'd have for travelling. Trouble is, the "travel" mirrors would have to be on all the time, even when I DON'T have the camper on. Ever driven over the Putallo Bridge? I do it to get to work each morning, and mirrors sticking out a ft on each side would be torn off by opposing traffic. Lloyd |
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:30:15 +0000, Tony Thomas wrote:
Mirrors will definetly help but everyone I know that has ever done tandem towing disconnects before backing (back only one unit at a time). He he... I've noticed that what we do for camping almost seems unique in North America: we have "slide-in" campers that fit on the back of pickup trucks. You see them EVERYWHERE in BC and the American "pacific northwest", but rarely anywhere else. The "camper" I'm referring to sits in the truckbed - it's not a separate trailer. The problem with it is that it's wider than the truck (or the boat!). Here's what a "big one" looks like: http://www.virtualproperties.ca/j1058/ and this is more what I have in mind: http://cargobody.com/camper.htm Lloyd |
That works fine if you have a big enough ramp and no one else on it.
The front bumper hitch is the best idea. Used it on a MH - offset it to the right side so I could look down the side of the boat/trailer. Really slick - also kept the driving wheels out of the water and on dry land.... George On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:50:16 -0500, "Jon Porter" wrote: "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message . .. Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... A friend of mine had that problem backing an empty boat trailer down the ramp. I was out in boat and could see that the trailer dropped below the line of vision when starting down the ramp. A guy finally offered to do it for her, and he simply drove way down the wide ramp, turned, and pulled back up the ramp until everything was straight. He then backed it straight down into the water. |
Yes, I WILL need larger mirrors for driving. But there's a big difference
between seeing what 50 ft behind you and seeing a boat that's narrower than you are, 10 ft back. One of the useless skills I happened to learn in life is how to back a semi trailer through a slalom course without knocking over any cones. :-) If you're backing caddy whumpus, the trailer will show up in one mirror or the other before the angle becomes too extreme. You can then correct accordingly, (turn the wheel into the mirror with "too much" trailer showing). If you feel as though you must keep track of both rear corners of the trailer when backing up in a straight line (recommended), there is a little trick you can use that won't involve bizarro mirrors. Saw off a couple of lengths of old wooden broomstick. Hang a red plastic pennant on each one. When you get to the ramp or some other backing situation, insert these broomsticks into the left and right sides of your trailer. They should stick out far enough that you can see the flags in your mirror. As soon as you start to turn, of course, one of the flags will disappear but they will provide a useful reference to let you know when you are backing in a staright line. You many have to rig up a couple of fittings on the trailer to accommodate the broomsticks. |
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:30:15 +0000, Tony Thomas wrote: Mirrors will definetly help but everyone I know that has ever done tandem towing disconnects before backing (back only one unit at a time). He he... I've noticed that what we do for camping almost seems unique in North America: we have "slide-in" campers that fit on the back of pickup trucks. You see them EVERYWHERE in BC and the American "pacific northwest", but rarely anywhere else. The "camper" I'm referring to sits in the truckbed - it's not a separate trailer. The problem with it is that it's wider than the truck (or the boat!). Here's what a "big one" looks like: http://www.virtualproperties.ca/j1058/ and this is more what I have in mind: http://cargobody.com/camper.htm Lloyd Then you shouldn't have a problem. Even if the camper sticks out over the bed rails, you should be able to see the boat trailer underneath the camper overhang - with the stock mirrors. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work. |
Lloyd
I think you need to have a backup camera. Wireless ones are available rather inexpensively. I don't think any kind of mirror setup would work for you unless you made the rear of the trailer at least as wide as the camper. JIMinFL "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 |
If your pix is accurate, you can see the boat out of either side mirror. I
NEVER use the center, interior mirror to back down a boat. Go to an empty parking lot...(early in the morning, so no one else will screw you up); put tape or a towel over your interior back up mirror. Put a few garbage cans out and back through them a dozen times, using only the outside mirrors. You should be just fine with the pictured camper. RichG TX -- RichG manager, Carolina Skiff Owners Group on MSN http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners .. "JIMinFL" wrote in message ... Lloyd I think you need to have a backup camera. Wireless ones are available rather inexpensively. I don't think any kind of mirror setup would work for you unless you made the rear of the trailer at least as wide as the camper. JIMinFL "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 |
Put a ball hitch on the front bumper of your truck. When it comes time to
launch the boat. hook the trailer up to the front ball and you will find that boat launching is easier than it's ever been. Of course, you can only use this configuration when launching or retrieving your boat. The hitch on the back is the one that you need to use for towing on the highway. -- Charley "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... It's not fun, but it is do-able. How much trouble can a 12' cartop be to launch? Might be easier to disconnect a trailer that small and launch like a small sailing dinghy dolly. That is...by hand. A block or two and 100 ft of line would make retrival real easy. Just pull the small trailer up to the truck attach & drive away. No salt touches the truck. |
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:18:58 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:30:15 +0000, Tony Thomas wrote: Mirrors will definetly help but everyone I know that has ever done tandem towing disconnects before backing (back only one unit at a time). He he... I've noticed that what we do for camping almost seems unique in North America: we have "slide-in" campers that fit on the back of pickup trucks. You see them EVERYWHERE in BC and the American "pacific northwest", but rarely anywhere else. The "camper" I'm referring to sits in the truckbed - it's not a separate trailer. The problem with it is that it's wider than the truck (or the boat!). Here's what a "big one" looks like: http://www.virtualproperties.ca/j1058/ and this is more what I have in mind: http://cargobody.com/camper.htm Lloyd Lloyd, if the problem is only one of backing the boat, why not just open the camper doors and use your rear view, or look through the back window of the pickup? John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:44:33 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote: Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 In case you don't see the other reply: Why not just open the doors of the camper when backing the boat? Then use the rear view in the truck, or look through the back window. John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
Better yet, have a hitch ball installed on the front bumper, drop the
trailer near the ramp, re attach to the front, then calmly drive the boat in. Just a thought!! "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:44:33 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, I want to go fishing/camping in my 1990 Nissan with a SMALL camper (I think they're called "camperettes") on the back, towing my small boat (12ft aluminum skiff, with some addons like a floor so I can't just heave it on top). The problem: even the smallest of campers are wider than the truck, and I don't think I could see the boat at all behind me. How do you back it down the ramp? REALLY wide mirrors (there goes the ol' fuel economy!)? Closed-cct tv? Surely there are others that do this... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 In case you don't see the other reply: Why not just open the doors of the camper when backing the boat? Then use the rear view in the truck, or look through the back window. John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:42:36 +0000, Charley wrote:
Put a ball hitch on the front bumper of your truck. When it comes time to launch the boat. hook the trailer up to the front ball and you will find that boat launching is easier than it's ever been. Of course, you can only use this configuration when launching or retrieving your boat. The hitch on the back is the one that you need to use for towing on the highway. You have it right Charley. By the time a "short" trailer is visable in a mirror, it's almost jack-knifed against the bumper. I used this method years ago with a small fishing boat behind a windowless van. Installed a small square reciever for hitch under front bumper so ball/hitch could be removed so I didn't bang my shins every time I walked in front of the van or cleaned the windshield. Worked like a charm. |
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:57:16 +0000, Don White wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... It's not fun, but it is do-able. How much trouble can a 12' cartop be to launch? Might be easier to disconnect a trailer that small and launch like a small sailing dinghy dolly. That is...by hand. A block or two and 100 ft of line would make retrival real easy. Just pull the small trailer up to the truck attach & drive away. No salt touches the truck. You're right, this is definitely an option, and one I've already done in places that weren't really a "launch" (ie something somewhat beach- like...). It's a bit more elegant to back it down, but hell... There's also the "correction" technique, esp. when backing down the trailer for retrieval: back it down a bit, get out, pick up the trailer and straighten it, back down a bit more... It looks like four solutions: hand-launch, get BIG mirrors (I've found a couple of options: slide-on and swing-out), front-mounted hitch, or put flags, etc. on the sides of the trailer. In the end, I'll probably use a combination. As Harry says, a CCTV is a BIT overkill. I'm glad I'm on the other side of the continent, though: Harry, you pull a boat YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND down the highway? scary... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 |
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... As Harry says, a CCTV is a BIT overkill. I'm glad I'm on the other side of the continent, though: Harry, you pull a boat YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND down the highway? scary... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 There's a guy in Colorado who has a Sandpiper 565 like mine and hauls it behind a Winnebago type motor home. He uses the closed circuit type tv to keep an eye on his boat as he travels. |
I pull a small center console behind a van. I find that if I put the pole mounted steaming light in, I can maneuver the trailer by watching the light. |
Will Sill wrote: I see where Jim contributed: I pull a small center console behind a van. I find that if I put the pole mounted steaming light in, I can maneuver the trailer by watching the light. Huh? Try sobering up before posting. Will Sill The question was, "How do you back a trailer when you can't see it?" My reply was that my "all around light" is on a removable pole. If I put the light in place, I can see where the trailer is. Hard to understand? |
Do you travel with other people? A spotter standing in front of you can walk
back and forth across the front of the truck while you back it down and give you signals as to where the trailer is going. OR Have a custom hitch mount and ball installed on the front of the truck. When you get to the ramp just swing the trailer into position. Then drop the trailer and turn the truck around. You will now have the trailer in front of you with clear vision. I have handled a truck and trailer in this fashion many times. It really is easier and faster.(boat yard trick) John C. "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:18:58 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:30:15 +0000, Tony Thomas wrote: Mirrors will definetly help but everyone I know that has ever done tandem towing disconnects before backing (back only one unit at a time). He he... I've noticed that what we do for camping almost seems unique in North America: we have "slide-in" campers that fit on the back of pickup trucks. You see them EVERYWHERE in BC and the American "pacific northwest", but rarely anywhere else. The "camper" I'm referring to sits in the truckbed - it's not a separate trailer. The problem with it is that it's wider than the truck (or the boat!). Here's what a "big one" looks like: http://www.virtualproperties.ca/j1058/ and this is more what I have in mind: http://cargobody.com/camper.htm Lloyd Lloyd, if the problem is only one of backing the boat, why not just open the camper doors and use your rear view, or look through the back window of the pickup? John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:57:16 +0000, Don White wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... It's not fun, but it is do-able. How much trouble can a 12' cartop be to launch? Might be easier to disconnect a trailer that small and launch like a small sailing dinghy dolly. That is...by hand. A block or two and 100 ft of line would make retrival real easy. Just pull the small trailer up to the truck attach & drive away. No salt touches the truck. You're right, this is definitely an option, and one I've already done in places that weren't really a "launch" (ie something somewhat beach- like...). It's a bit more elegant to back it down, but hell... There's also the "correction" technique, esp. when backing down the trailer for retrieval: back it down a bit, get out, pick up the trailer and straighten it, back down a bit more... It looks like four solutions: hand-launch, get BIG mirrors (I've found a couple of options: slide-on and swing-out), front-mounted hitch, or put flags, etc. on the sides of the trailer. In the end, I'll probably use a combination. As Harry says, a CCTV is a BIT overkill. I'm glad I'm on the other side of the continent, though: Harry, you pull a boat YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND down the highway? scary... Lloyd Sumpter "The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12 I don't pull that Parker down the highway often. It's pretty scary looking in the rear-view mirror and seeing nothing but a huge mass of white plastic. With the side-view mirrors, I can see as far back as the front trailer tire...sort of. This past summer, I only towed from the parking spot in the boatyard to its ramp, a couple of hundred yards usually. Oh...and one time I towed to Solomons Island from the boatyard, about 35 miles each way. When I back the boat down the ramp, I can't see a damned thing. I line up, back a ways, get out and look, back down some more, et cetera. I actually can launch and retrieve the boat by myself if I have to do so. It is much harder to back up a small trailer behind a long vehicle than to back up a long trailer behind a short vehicle. And if you can not see behind you with your mirrors, the cops can give you a ticket and I hope they do! Just what you want to see, is some guy changing lanes with out seeing or looking. You can get clip on extension mirrors, that are only installed when towing. Clip on the window sill and a rubber bungee helps hold them in place, or you can buy aftermarket mirrors that are like GM's towing mirrors. They electrically extend. When I tow with or with out the camper installed, I press the switch and the mirrors on my Chevy 2500 Crew cab extend out about 9 more inches. Bill |
You see truck campers everywhere. Lance is the big one for big trucks. For
little trucks or people who want gas milage, get a slide in pop up camper. I have a Palomino Bronco B-800. Weight is about 1100# for a cab over with queen size bed. They make them for the mini-pickups. Lightest is Fourwheel Popup camper out of woodland Calif. They will even connect you up with someone selling a used unit. Mine is from http://www.palominorv.com/ftc.shtml There are several other manufacturers. The camper is only about 8" high above the cab when traveling. I do notice a milage hit, but not that much. But I do drive a 2004 Duramax diesel Chevy. Get a set of trailering mirrors at the local Wal-mart, autoparts store, Canadian Tire, etc. They hang on the window sill and then a bungee goes to the bottom to the door. Remove when not trailering. Bill "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:30:15 +0000, Tony Thomas wrote: Mirrors will definetly help but everyone I know that has ever done tandem towing disconnects before backing (back only one unit at a time). He he... I've noticed that what we do for camping almost seems unique in North America: we have "slide-in" campers that fit on the back of pickup trucks. You see them EVERYWHERE in BC and the American "pacific northwest", but rarely anywhere else. The "camper" I'm referring to sits in the truckbed - it's not a separate trailer. The problem with it is that it's wider than the truck (or the boat!). Here's what a "big one" looks like: http://www.virtualproperties.ca/j1058/ and this is more what I have in mind: http://cargobody.com/camper.htm Lloyd |
I agree with Will on this. I found the OP completely unintelligible. In
fact I find the explanation unintelligible. TS "Will Sill" wrote in message ... I see where Jim contributed: I pull a small center console behind a van. I find that if I put the pole mounted steaming light in, I can maneuver the trailer by watching the light. SInce that was unintelligible to me, an rv'er and not a boater, I responded with "Huh?" and a recommenbdation to sober up. Now he says: The question was, "How do you back a trailer when you can't see it?" My reply was that my "all around light" is on a removable pole. If I put the light in place, I can see where the trailer is. Hard to understand? Yes, it was impossible for some of us who were not familiar with your lingo. And you did NOT call it an "all around light", leaving many in the dark. Pun intended. Not only that, the information was of no value to the OP, who does NOT have a van but plans to get a truck camper. Most of THEM completely block vision through the middle. He needs the correct MIRRORS, not a steaming light. Sorry if you felt insulted, but when you cross-post to a NG frequented by readers who know little or nothing of the buzzwords for your aquatic hobby, you'll get a lot of "Huh?". Will Sill |
Will Sill wrote:
snipped Sorry if you felt insulted, but when you cross-post to a NG frequented by readers who know little or nothing of the buzzwords for your aquatic hobby, you'll get a lot of "Huh?". Will Sill Give it up Will, you just look dumber the more you write. OP posted to both groups and his response made sense to those with brains. HD in FL enjoying the sunshine |
Tom Shaw wrote:
I agree with Will on this. I found the OP completely unintelligible. In fact I find the explanation unintelligible. TS snipped OP posted to both groups. Didn't take a brain surgeon to figure out what the response referred to. In other words it doesn't matter whether either of you understood, I'm sure the OP did. HD in FL enjoying the sun |
Oh...I didn't realize it was a medical matter.
TS "HD in NY" wrote in message ... Tom Shaw wrote: I agree with Will on this. I found the OP completely unintelligible. In fact I find the explanation unintelligible. TS snipped OP posted to both groups. Didn't take a brain surgeon to figure out what the response referred to. In other words it doesn't matter whether either of you understood, I'm sure the OP did. HD in FL enjoying the sun |
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