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Jim, December 30th 04 06:07 PM

( OT) Does Bush have a Medical problem?
 
http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

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George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at
risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He
started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which
was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the
device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation
(AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves'
hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less
likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may
have caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching
the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological
symptoms consistent with this and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.

Jim, December 30th 04 06:18 PM

Harry Krause wrote:

Jim, wrote:

http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

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George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at
risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He
started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which
was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the
device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation
(AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves'
hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and
less likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF
may have caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians
watching the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted
psychological symptoms consistent with this and with
Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.




There's a pool around in which the bet is that Bush will die of natural
causes in the next four years. I'm not tracking it, but I did read about
it some weeks ago.

I would have bet on beer and pretzel or a bike accident..

And that will leave us with Chaney -- God help us!

JohnH December 30th 04 07:00 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:07:36 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

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George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at
risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He
started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which
was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the
device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation
(AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves'
hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less
likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may
have caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching
the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological
symptoms consistent with this and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.


No, that's a receiver for prompting when he's giving a speech. Haven't
we already clarified that?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Doug Kanter December 30th 04 07:10 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim, wrote:
http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

extract

George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at
risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He
started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which
was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the
device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation
(AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves'
hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less
likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may
have caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching
the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological
symptoms consistent with this and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.



There's a pool around in which the bet is that Bush will die of natural
causes in the next four years. I'm not tracking it, but I did read about
it some weeks ago.

I would have bet on beer and pretzel or a bike accident..


I was thinking he'd trip over his dog's leash and strangle himself in it
trying to escape.



Doug Kanter December 30th 04 07:17 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim, wrote:

http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

extract

George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at
risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He
started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which
was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the
device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation
(AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves'
hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less
likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may
have caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching
the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological
symptoms consistent with this and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.


There's a pool around in which the bet is that Bush will die of natural
causes in the next four years. I'm not tracking it, but I did read about
it some weeks ago.

I would have bet on beer and pretzel or a bike accident..



I was thinking he'd trip over his dog's leash and strangle himself in it
trying to escape.




Ohhh...I like that one.


It takes a Monty Python mind to think these things up. :-)



Paul Schilter December 30th 04 09:14 PM

Jim,
Good point. Ya know, George may be dumb as a fox. :-)
Paul

"Jim," wrote in message
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And that will leave us with Chaney -- God help us!




NOYB December 31st 04 02:47 AM


"Jim," wrote in message
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http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

extract

George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at risk
of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He started
using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which was
attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the device, one
can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation (AF), which his
father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves' hyperthyroidism,
which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less likely Graves',
based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may have caused a stroke
or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching the debates detected
symptoms. Observers have noted psychological symptoms consistent with this
and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.


I have lone paroxysmal a-fib. There's virtually a zero percent chance of
having a stroke from an A-fib incident that lasts less than 48 hours. In
other words, there's no way that the President of the USA could have had
undetected A-fib for 2 days that resulted in a stroke.



Doug Kanter December 31st 04 05:01 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Jim," wrote in message
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http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

extract

George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at
risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He
started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which
was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the
device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation
(AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves'
hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less
likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may have
caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching the
debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological symptoms
consistent with this and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.


I have lone paroxysmal a-fib. There's virtually a zero percent chance of
having a stroke from an A-fib incident that lasts less than 48 hours. In
other words, there's no way that the President of the USA could have had
undetected A-fib for 2 days that resulted in a stroke.


You're assuming he's smart enough to know the difference between his chest
and his knee - a significant fact if he needs to describe unusual symptoms
to his doctor. Since we know he's not that smart, your comment is moot.



NOYB January 1st 05 02:04 AM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Jim," wrote in message
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http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

extract

George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at
risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He
started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which
was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the
device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation
(AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves'
hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less
likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may
have caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching
the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological
symptoms consistent with this and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.


I have lone paroxysmal a-fib. There's virtually a zero percent chance of
having a stroke from an A-fib incident that lasts less than 48 hours. In
other words, there's no way that the President of the USA could have had
undetected A-fib for 2 days that resulted in a stroke.


You're assuming he's smart enough to know the difference between his chest
and his knee - a significant fact if he needs to describe unusual symptoms
to his doctor. Since we know he's not that smart, your comment is moot.


If you have A-fib, you know when you're in A-fib.



Doug Kanter January 1st 05 05:16 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Jim," wrote in message
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http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php

extract

George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at
risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He
started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which
was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the
device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation
(AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves'
hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less
likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may
have caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching
the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological
symptoms consistent with this and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.

I have lone paroxysmal a-fib. There's virtually a zero percent chance
of having a stroke from an A-fib incident that lasts less than 48 hours.
In other words, there's no way that the President of the USA could have
had undetected A-fib for 2 days that resulted in a stroke.


You're assuming he's smart enough to know the difference between his
chest and his knee - a significant fact if he needs to describe unusual
symptoms to his doctor. Since we know he's not that smart, your comment
is moot.


If you have A-fib, you know when you're in A-fib.



You still have to communicate something, unless you have some very astute
people close by.



Doug Kanter January 1st 05 01:56 PM

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1104587058.4c82e31ca1efb82aa2b531f8131bc80b@t eranews...


You still have to communicate something, unless you have some very astute
people close by.



The article stated that he passed out from A-fib, and Bush's people
covered it with a story about choking on a pretzel. How astute of a
person does it take to notice a person passed out on the ground? I
guarantee that the first thing the White House medical folks checked was
his BP and heart rate...and then followed up with a 12-lead ECG.




I'm more interested in the Doof's EEG...


Don't you read the newspapers, Harry? The Associated Press gots its hands on
his EEG results recently. From the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle:

_________________________________??______________



Doug Kanter January 1st 05 02:11 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1104587058.4c82e31ca1efb82aa2b531f8131bc80b@t eranews...


You still have to communicate something, unless you have some very
astute people close by.



The article stated that he passed out from A-fib, and Bush's people
covered it with a story about choking on a pretzel. How astute of a
person does it take to notice a person passed out on the ground? I
guarantee that the first thing the White House medical folks checked was
his BP and heart rate...and then followed up with a 12-lead ECG.



I'm more interested in the Doof's EEG...



Don't you read the newspapers, Harry? The Associated Press gots its hands
on his EEG results recently. From the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle:

_________________________________??______________



Thanks...I've previously stated I thought Bush was a FLEEG (someone with a
flat line EEG) but needed the proof...


Almost flatline. The doctors believe the question marks indicate Bush was
looking around the room, wondering why he couldn't bring his best friend
with him to the test: A fencepost from his ranch.



John Wentworth January 1st 05 08:11 PM

Harry Krause wrote:


We'll be sure to not miss you or any of your non-contributions.



Non-contributions?
Harry, ****ing on someone's shoes is not a contribution.


none February 3rd 05 07:47 AM

"Jim," wrote in message
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http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswir...5360/index.php


*PLONK* to the OFF TOPIC loser...




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