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Jim January 5th 04 03:45 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?

Attention terrorists, plan ahead, don't wait to launch your boat on the
day you attack. Put it in the day before.

Geezus, stupid government thinking.
Jim


Chuck Tribolet January 5th 04 03:59 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
Where?

The Coast Guard Pier launch ramp in Monterey was open today.
The name is appropriate -- the CG ties up to the breakwater next
to it, and CG Station Monterey is about a block away.



--
Chuck Tribolet

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.


"Jim" wrote in message hlink.net...
The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?

Attention terrorists, plan ahead, don't wait to launch your boat on the
day you attack. Put it in the day before.

Geezus, stupid government thinking.
Jim




Jim January 5th 04 04:59 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
I tried two ramps, the launch ramp at Cabrillo Beach, Los Angeles
Harbour, and Long Beach Harbour. Both closed.

Maybe this was some local thing.

Jim



Chuck Tribolet wrote:
Where?

The Coast Guard Pier launch ramp in Monterey was open today.
The name is appropriate -- the CG ties up to the breakwater next
to it, and CG Station Monterey is about a block away.





Gould 0738 January 5th 04 05:39 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
Do they normally have a cop stationed at these ramps?

If so, they could be closed for Orange Alert because the cop was needed
elsewhere, not because they thought the terrorists were gonig to try to escape
in a Boston Whaler.

Gould 0738 January 5th 04 05:41 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
Actually, since they had a cop sitting by the sign, the ramps would need to
have multiple cops on an ordinary day for the possibility I just advanced,

Shortwave Sportfishing January 5th 04 11:34 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"We may say of angling as Dr. Boteler said of strawberries:
Doubtless God could have made a better berry, but doubtless
God never did and so, if I might be judge, God never did make
a more calm, quiet, innocent recreation than angling."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler"(1653)

Doug Kanter January 5th 04 02:47 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.


Here in Rochester, my local ramp was open the weekend before last, and there
were probably 75 boats anchored, fishing for perch. The docks had been
removed, but with two people, launching wasn't a problem. But, I saw
something I'd never seen before at this location: There were two CG guys
walking back and forth constantly between the jetty which protects the
channel into Lake Ontario, the the launch site, which is directly adjacent.
At first, I thought they were checking safety equipment, or doing the DEC a
favor and looking at fishing licenses. But, they didn't pause long enough to
check equipment as each boat came in. Then it dawned on me:

It was a gorgeous day and the lake was flat as glass. It would've been a
breeze to bring a small boat across from Canada.

I think we can expect all sorts of strange stuff for quite some time.



NOYB January 5th 04 03:36 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in

message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because

of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now

on?

There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.


Here in Rochester, my local ramp was open the weekend before last, and

there
were probably 75 boats anchored, fishing for perch. The docks had been
removed, but with two people, launching wasn't a problem. But, I saw
something I'd never seen before at this location: There were two CG guys
walking back and forth constantly between the jetty which protects the
channel into Lake Ontario, the the launch site, which is directly

adjacent.
At first, I thought they were checking safety equipment, or doing the DEC

a
favor and looking at fishing licenses. But, they didn't pause long enough

to
check equipment as each boat came in. Then it dawned on me:

It was a gorgeous day and the lake was flat as glass. It would've been a
breeze to bring a small boat across from Canada.

I think we can expect all sorts of strange stuff for quite some time.


I'm glad the CG is there to keep the likes of Don and Lloyd out of our
country.





Richard Malcolm January 5th 04 03:43 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.

They have closed the ramp I used to use outside of Boston ever since

9/11. There has been a cop there 24hr a day since then. STUPID STUPID
STUPID

WHAT A WAISTE OF MONEY

I am all for being safe but come on.......put up some cement blocks
and shut the ramp down and put the police to a better use if you need
to do.

Mad Dog Dave January 5th 04 04:06 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT


It makes perfect sense because it is part of our plan to keep
terrorism in the forefront of peoples' thoughts 24-7. We cannot let
out guard down on this issue because it will cost our fearless leader
votes if we don't have an endless series of annoying incidents to
remind all how dangerous everything is.

Shortwave Sportfishing January 5th 04 05:06 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 14:47:27 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.


Here in Rochester, my local ramp was open the weekend before last, and there
were probably 75 boats anchored, fishing for perch. The docks had been
removed, but with two people, launching wasn't a problem. But, I saw
something I'd never seen before at this location: There were two CG guys
walking back and forth constantly between the jetty which protects the
channel into Lake Ontario, the the launch site, which is directly adjacent.
At first, I thought they were checking safety equipment, or doing the DEC a
favor and looking at fishing licenses. But, they didn't pause long enough to
check equipment as each boat came in. Then it dawned on me:

It was a gorgeous day and the lake was flat as glass. It would've been a
breeze to bring a small boat across from Canada.

I think we can expect all sorts of strange stuff for quite some time.


I fish Narragansett Bay and environs a lot and there have been some
restrictions put in place around the Bridges like you can't fish
within 500 feet of the bridge and a couple of others like you can't
fish from shore around the bridges which make no sense at all. The
fishing clubs were told that the DPU in RI was given a directive from
the Dept. of Homeland Security and they couldn't do anything about it
because it involved funding of some sort.

Of course, after all this came out, just to test the system, I
anchored directly under the Pell (Jamestown) Bridge and fished for
black fish for about four hours, was passed by two Coasties in high
speed partol boats and a 100 foot cutter and nobody said nuttin'. :)
And yes, I was monitoring 9/16 and the local working frequency, 13.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"We may say of angling as Dr. Boteler said of strawberries:
Doubtless God could have made a better berry, but doubtless
God never did and so, if I might be judge, God never did make
a more calm, quiet, innocent recreation than angling."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler"(1653)

Shortwave Sportfishing January 5th 04 05:08 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 15:36:58 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in

message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because

of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now

on?

There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.


Here in Rochester, my local ramp was open the weekend before last, and

there
were probably 75 boats anchored, fishing for perch. The docks had been
removed, but with two people, launching wasn't a problem. But, I saw
something I'd never seen before at this location: There were two CG guys
walking back and forth constantly between the jetty which protects the
channel into Lake Ontario, the the launch site, which is directly

adjacent.
At first, I thought they were checking safety equipment, or doing the DEC

a
favor and looking at fishing licenses. But, they didn't pause long enough

to
check equipment as each boat came in. Then it dawned on me:

It was a gorgeous day and the lake was flat as glass. It would've been a
breeze to bring a small boat across from Canada.

I think we can expect all sorts of strange stuff for quite some time.


I'm glad the CG is there to keep the likes of Don and Lloyd out of our
country.


I was up at Lake Champlain this summer and there were a ton of
Canadian boats in and around the place we were staying at.

Of course, I was about an hour south of the border, but hey.. :)

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"We may say of angling as Dr. Boteler said of strawberries:
Doubtless God could have made a better berry, but doubtless
God never did and so, if I might be judge, God never did make
a more calm, quiet, innocent recreation than angling."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler"(1653)

Calif Bill January 5th 04 06:08 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
There are already some security zones in Long Beach Harbor. Probably can
not launch and stay the 500' from the cruise and cargo ships. Remember this
is one of the busier West coast ports.
Bill

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"We may say of angling as Dr. Boteler said of strawberries:
Doubtless God could have made a better berry, but doubtless
God never did and so, if I might be judge, God never did make
a more calm, quiet, innocent recreation than angling."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler"(1653)




Doug Kanter January 5th 04 06:16 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
"Mad Dog Dave" wrote in message
om...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote in message

. ..
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because

of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now

on?

There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT


It makes perfect sense because it is part of our plan to keep
terrorism in the forefront of peoples' thoughts 24-7. We cannot let
out guard down on this issue because it will cost our fearless leader
votes if we don't have an endless series of annoying incidents to
remind all how dangerous everything is.


What's really annoying is having to monitor news broadcasts for any footage
of Bush speaking, so I can quickly get my 14 yr old son out of the room. So
far, the kid's writing better than many college kids. Wouldn't want him
exposed to any negative influences.



Harry Krause January 5th 04 11:12 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
Mad Dog Dave wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT


It makes perfect sense because it is part of our plan to keep
terrorism in the forefront of peoples' thoughts 24-7. We cannot let
out guard down on this issue because it will cost our fearless leader
votes if we don't have an endless series of annoying incidents to
remind all how dangerous everything is.



What? Are you saying this is all political? How can that be?


--
Email sent to is never read.

Jim January 6th 04 03:52 AM

I found out why..., launch ramps CLOSED!
 
I asked a friend who runs a launch facility in another town.

Los Angeles Harbour had a "specific threat", and so, decided to close
the launch facilities.

With the few people using them, I would rather have seen them use the
manpower to observe and capture one of these "evil doers".

How did closing a couple of launch ramps that would have had a dozen
uses, at the most, help make us safer? One guy looking closely at the
boats might have caught someone, and maybe LEARNED something.

Something that might have helped make us safer.

It turns out that Howard Dean is right, you know.
Jim








Calif Bill wrote:
There are already some security zones in Long Beach Harbor. Probably can
not launch and stay the 500' from the cruise and cargo ships. Remember this
is one of the busier West coast ports.
Bill

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:


The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any
sense.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"We may say of angling as Dr. Boteler said of strawberries:
Doubtless God could have made a better berry, but doubtless
God never did and so, if I might be judge, God never did make
a more calm, quiet, innocent recreation than angling."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler"(1653)






Lloyd Sumpter January 6th 04 04:04 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 

Yeah...this, and the armed guards at Times Square at New Years...

Welcome to 1984, 20 years later. Big Br..er.."Homeland Security" Is Watching
(Over) You...

Lloyd - sure glad I'm in Canada!

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:08:38 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:

There are already some security zones in Long Beach Harbor. Probably can not
launch and stay the 500' from the cruise and cargo ships. Remember this is one
of the busier West coast ports.
Bill

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of the
orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?


There must have been another reason - that just doesn't make any sense.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"We may say of angling as Dr. Boteler said of strawberries: Doubtless God
could have made a better berry, but doubtless God never did and so, if I might
be judge, God never did make a more calm, quiet, innocent recreation than
angling."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler"(1653)



Joe January 6th 04 04:08 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
Lloyd - sure glad I'm in Canada!


Yeah, me too.



Lloyd Sumpter January 6th 04 04:08 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 15:36:58 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
Then it dawned on me:

It was a gorgeous day and the lake was flat as glass. It would've been a
breeze to bring a small boat across from Canada.

I think we can expect all sorts of strange stuff for quite some time.


I'm glad the CG is there to keep the likes of Don and Lloyd out of our country.


Don't need 'em - wouldn't go down there on a bet. Of course, this is the
fundamental problem with your border security: it's keeping honest folks like
Don and I (who might spend money down there!) out, but is doing nothing to
counter terrorism.

Lloyd - proud Canadian - Go Rick Mercer!


NOYB January 6th 04 04:13 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...

Yeah...this, and the armed guards at Times Square at New Years...

Welcome to 1984, 20 years later. Big Br..er.."Homeland Security" Is

Watching
(Over) You...

Lloyd - sure glad I'm in Canada!


Sure glad Lloyd's in Canada, too!



NOYB January 6th 04 04:14 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 

"Joe" wrote in message
...
Lloyd - sure glad I'm in Canada!


Yeah, me too.


Damn...I responded before reading your post.

BTW--I almost had to kick my own ass tonight when I saw that I only scored a
25 out of 40 on the political test. How'd I get so damn liberal?



Joe January 6th 04 05:05 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
m...

"Joe" wrote in message
...
Lloyd - sure glad I'm in Canada!


Yeah, me too.


Damn...I responded before reading your post.

BTW--I almost had to kick my own ass tonight when I saw that I only scored

a
25 out of 40 on the political test. How'd I get so damn liberal?



The test is defiantly rigged, I can't believe I'm left of Regan.

BTW, you'll get a chuckle out of this-
http://www.greencis.net/~dianeleigh/JustPretending.jpg

I have it very good authority that this is not a Photoshop.



Capt. Frank Hopkins January 6th 04 06:16 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
I think we should all keep our eyes open and report suspicious activity.
Especially around ramps that a

1. Near a base.
2. Near a powerplant.
3. On a MEW
4. On a border.


Capt. Frank

Jim wrote:

The cop sitting by the closed sign told me that it was closed because of
the orange terror alert.

Anyone know anything about this? Is this what we can expect from now on?

Attention terrorists, plan ahead, don't wait to launch your boat on the
day you attack. Put it in the day before.

Geezus, stupid government thinking.
Jim



Lloyd Sumpter January 6th 04 09:25 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 05:37:54 +0000, WaIIy wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:04:59 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"
wrote:

Lloyd - sure glad I'm in Canada!


Don't worry, we'll continue to protect you.


Yeah...like you did in 1812? And note that the border is 49deg, not "54-40
or fight!"

Lloyd


Don White January 7th 04 04:37 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
What? Even your 'Brown Pelicans' are trying to get away from your
repressive regime. One landed here and a local vet is taking care of it
until we ship it back to Miami. Darn shame......bird has more sense than a
lot of 'good 'ole boys'.


NOYB wrote in message news:uwfKb.26265
I'm glad the CG is there to keep the likes of Don and Lloyd out of our
country.







Don White January 7th 04 04:41 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
From who? Last people to bomb & kill Canadian soldiers were American
National Guard pilots from Michigan.

WaIIy wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:04:59 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"
wrote:

Lloyd - sure glad I'm in Canada!


Don't worry, we'll continue to protect you.




Gould 0738 January 7th 04 08:28 AM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
Exactly... "from who"? You should count your blessings every day we
are here to protect those who cannot or will not protect themselves.

Uhhh, that would include you.


A man went to the public swimming pool.
Before he could go swimming, he was fingerprinted and required to fill out a
registration card. When he asked why, he was told "So we know who you are and
where to send the body if you get eaten by any of the sharks in the pool"

The swimmer was perturbed, but proceeded to the locker room to change into his
trunks.

In the locker room, he was charged $175 to rent a locker. When he protested the
amount of the fee, he was told that the money was needed to hire the guards
required to keep sharks out of the pool.

$175 lighter, the swimmer proceeded to the pool only to discover that it was
only half-filled with water. It was difficult to get into the pool due to the
phalanx of armed guards surrounding it. He was told the shallow fill was to
make it easier to spot sharks, and that all the guards were necessary to shoot
at any sharks that might appear.

The swimmer was finally annoyed. "This is the damn City Park Swimming Pool!
There are *no* sharks in here!"

"Yes sir, merely additional proof that all of our anti-shark measures are
working. Oh, it's going to cost you another $175 to get your stuff *out* of the
locker. We're sure you'll understand."

On the way back to the locker room, the hapless swimmer was bitten by a
rattlesnake hiding in the corner. Everybody was looking for sharks- nobody
thought to look for snakes.



NOYB January 7th 04 01:47 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 
*ONE* stinkin' pelican!? Are you sure it wasn't a loony bird? Do you know
how many Canadian geese permanently leave Canada and head to the US every
year?

BTW--keep your damn geese up there...'cause their **** is polluting the
water in our parks.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
What? Even your 'Brown Pelicans' are trying to get away from your
repressive regime. One landed here and a local vet is taking care of it
until we ship it back to Miami. Darn shame......bird has more sense than

a
lot of 'good 'ole boys'.


NOYB wrote in message news:uwfKb.26265
I'm glad the CG is there to keep the likes of Don and Lloyd out of our
country.









NOYB January 7th 04 01:48 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 



"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 04:37:17 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

What? Even your 'Brown Pelicans' are trying to get away from your
repressive regime. One landed here and a local vet is taking care of it
until we ship it back to Miami. Darn shame......bird has more sense than

a
lot of 'good 'ole boys'.


It must be great to feel superior to "good ole boys".

Who do you look down your nose at in Canada?


Newfies.



NOYB January 7th 04 01:51 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Exactly... "from who"? You should count your blessings every day we
are here to protect those who cannot or will not protect themselves.

Uhhh, that would include you.


A man went to the public swimming pool.
Before he could go swimming, he was fingerprinted and required to fill out

a
registration card. When he asked why, he was told "So we know who you are

and
where to send the body if you get eaten by any of the sharks in the pool"

The swimmer was perturbed, but proceeded to the locker room to change into

his
trunks.

In the locker room, he was charged $175 to rent a locker. When he

protested the
amount of the fee, he was told that the money was needed to hire the

guards
required to keep sharks out of the pool.

$175 lighter, the swimmer proceeded to the pool only to discover that it

was
only half-filled with water. It was difficult to get into the pool due to

the
phalanx of armed guards surrounding it. He was told the shallow fill was

to
make it easier to spot sharks, and that all the guards were necessary to

shoot
at any sharks that might appear.

The swimmer was finally annoyed. "This is the damn City Park Swimming

Pool!
There are *no* sharks in here!"

"Yes sir, merely additional proof that all of our anti-shark measures are
working. Oh, it's going to cost you another $175 to get your stuff *out*

of the
locker. We're sure you'll understand."

On the way back to the locker room, the hapless swimmer was bitten by a
rattlesnake hiding in the corner. Everybody was looking for sharks- nobody
thought to look for snakes.


What prompted all the security against the sharks? Had there been a massive
shark attack in that pool before? Had other sharks threatened to enter the
same pool? Did we catch sharks that had entered the pool, but detained them
before they did some damage? Were the sharks sent to the pool by other
countries?






Backyard Renegade January 7th 04 02:19 PM

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"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
SNIP
Of course, this is the
fundamental problem with your border security: it's keeping honest folks like
Don and I (who might spend money down there!) out, but is doing nothing to
counter terrorism.


Ya know, I hear this kind of crap all day from the likes of you,
Gould, Harry, and the rest, can you please elaborate on this one
statement, and please give some examples, proof, or is is just more of
your endless political rubbish?




Lloyd - proud Canadian - Go Rick Mercer!


Doug Kanter January 7th 04 03:31 PM

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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

What prompted all the security against the sharks?


9/11



Jim Carter January 7th 04 03:38 PM

Tried to launch my boat today, launch ramps CLOSED!
 

"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om...
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
SNIP
Of course, this is the
fundamental problem with your border security: it's keeping honest folks

like
Don and I (who might spend money down there!) out, but is doing nothing

to
counter terrorism.


Ya know, I hear this kind of crap all day from the likes of you,
Gould, Harry, and the rest, can you please elaborate on this one
statement, and please give some examples, proof, or is is just more of
your endless political rubbish


Hello Mr. Backyard Renegade: Last summer, I applied for and received a
"Nexus" Border Crossing Card and I have had not problems crossing, with my
boat, Lake Huron, from Canada to the USA.

If a person has the proper identification, there is no problems boating
across the borders between Canada and the USA.

I enjoy visiting my American friends and border security is no problem for
those who have a Nexus Card.

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield, Ontario, Canada.



Gould 0738 January 7th 04 04:07 PM

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Scotty wrote:

Ya know, I hear this kind of crap all day from the likes of you,
Gould, Harry, and the rest, can you please elaborate on this one
statement, and please give some examples, proof, or is is just more of
your endless political rubbish?



Do you suppose the terrorists just get in line at the border crossings? Our
border with Canada is too long to partrol, and much of it is mountainous
wilderness.
It isn't like trying to defend the perimeter of
Vatican City. Heck, I could sneak into Canada. And back. Think what a terrorist
with just a minimum amount of training could do?

You want to enter the US from Canada?
Come by pleasure boat during the busy summer cruise season and put up a
courtesy flag. It would take US Customs days, if ever, to figure out you hadn't
cleared customs. Stay out of the resort marinas and odds are good you would
*never* be questioned. As it is, only a small percentage of boats are actually
inspected when they do report to customs. A guy could have a dozen terrorist
criminal *******s concealed in a medium size boat and have a 60-80 percent
chance of getting through untouched.

Terrorist criminal *******s will take the easiest opportunity to get into the
US. It's like basketball. You double or triple team the guy you think is most
likely to score against you, and that only takes the pressure off somebody else
instead.


Gould 0738 January 7th 04 04:21 PM

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What prompted all the security against the sharks? Had there been a massive
shark attack in that pool before? Had other sharks threatened to enter the
same pool? Did we catch sharks that had entered the pool, but detained them
before they did some damage? Were the sharks sent to the pool by other
countries?


Some sick, twisted, criminal ******* once threw a shark into the pool. A
single, tragic incident in the entire history of the fictional little town. The
city fathers used the incident as an excuse to extend police powers into all
sorts of areas not particularly related to securing the pool. The city
government bloated to unheard of proportions, and the shark attack was cited as
the reason. The little city even began annexing a number of other communities
so that the other areas could be more effectively policed.

In the end, somebody threw a rattlesnake instead of a shark.

There well may be additional attacks. It is the nature of terrorists to strike
where they are unexpected- to cut people down during
innocent, routine, daily activities. Until we
become a total police state, with everybody watched absolutely all the time, we
remain vulnerable to attacks from quarters we would currently consider low
risk. When we do become a total police state, the terrorists will have carried
the day- they will have caused America, as we know it, to self-destruct.

If and when the criminal *******s stirke again, it will be where we least
expect it- not where we are most prepared. Unless, of course, the preparations
are ineffective window dressing. The only thing more frightening than being
attacked from somewhere you didn't expect it would be a highly successsful
attack through the one or two areas where the public had been lulled into
believing we were well prepared.



Don White January 7th 04 05:29 PM

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Let me think....is it possible the geese were making that trip long before
dentists
were poluting the local waterways in Florida??
I'd bet on the geese.

NOYB wrote in message
link.net...
*ONE* stinkin' pelican!? Are you sure it wasn't a loony bird? Do you know
how many Canadian geese permanently leave Canada and head to the US every
year?

BTW--keep your damn geese up there...'cause their **** is polluting the
water in our parks.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
What? Even your 'Brown Pelicans' are trying to get away from your
repressive regime. One landed here and a local vet is taking care of it
until we ship it back to Miami. Darn shame......bird has more sense

than
a
lot of 'good 'ole boys'.


NOYB wrote in message news:uwfKb.26265
I'm glad the CG is there to keep the likes of Don and Lloyd out of our
country.











NOYB January 7th 04 05:32 PM

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Chuck,
I'd agree with you that putting up a wall around America, instituting an
Alert System, passing the Patriot Act, fingerprinting all non-Citizens, etc.
would be a waste of time...*IF* we didn't also have a policy of going into
the countries in the Middle East and tossing out the governments that
support the terrorists.

That plan works for me. What is *your* plan?



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
What prompted all the security against the sharks? Had there been a

massive
shark attack in that pool before? Had other sharks threatened to enter

the
same pool? Did we catch sharks that had entered the pool, but detained

them
before they did some damage? Were the sharks sent to the pool by other
countries?


Some sick, twisted, criminal ******* once threw a shark into the pool. A
single, tragic incident in the entire history of the fictional little

town. The
city fathers used the incident as an excuse to extend police powers into

all
sorts of areas not particularly related to securing the pool. The city
government bloated to unheard of proportions, and the shark attack was

cited as
the reason. The little city even began annexing a number of other

communities
so that the other areas could be more effectively policed.

In the end, somebody threw a rattlesnake instead of a shark.

There well may be additional attacks. It is the nature of terrorists to

strike
where they are unexpected- to cut people down during
innocent, routine, daily activities. Until we
become a total police state, with everybody watched absolutely all the

time, we
remain vulnerable to attacks from quarters we would currently consider low
risk. When we do become a total police state, the terrorists will have

carried
the day- they will have caused America, as we know it, to self-destruct.

If and when the criminal *******s stirke again, it will be where we least
expect it- not where we are most prepared. Unless, of course, the

preparations
are ineffective window dressing. The only thing more frightening than

being
attacked from somewhere you didn't expect it would be a highly successsful
attack through the one or two areas where the public had been lulled into
believing we were well prepared.





Doug Kanter January 7th 04 06:28 PM

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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...
Chuck,
I'd agree with you that putting up a wall around America, instituting an
Alert System, passing the Patriot Act, fingerprinting all non-Citizens,

etc.
would be a waste of time...*IF* we didn't also have a policy of going into
the countries in the Middle East and tossing out the governments that
support the terrorists.

That plan works for me. What is *your* plan?


What would you propose we do about Islamic terrorists who were born in and
resided continuously in places like England, France, Germany, the
Netherlands, Spain, Colombia, the Phillippines, Indonesia, Chechnya, Jersey
City, Cinncinnati, Buffalo, Boca Raton, Bluefield (WV) and Old Forge (NY)?

Make sure you have just one answer which applies equally to all the places
listed. This way, the places that have no value to you are treated the same
as Boca. We wouldn't want our "little brown brothers" to be mistreated just
because you say so. (That was Teddy Roosevelt's term for the Phillippinos).



Harry Krause January 7th 04 10:48 PM

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Backyard Renegade wrote:

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
SNIP
Of course, this is the
fundamental problem with your border security: it's keeping honest folks like
Don and I (who might spend money down there!) out, but is doing nothing to
counter terrorism.


Ya know, I hear this kind of crap all day from the likes of you,
Gould, Harry, and the rest, can you please elaborate on this one
statement, and please give some examples, proof, or is is just more of
your endless political rubbish?



Good grief...have you been having sex with Wally?




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Backyard Renegade January 9th 04 08:42 PM

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(Backyard Renegade) wrote in message . com...
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
SNIP
Of course, this is the
fundamental problem with your border security: it's keeping honest folks like
Don and I (who might spend money down there!) out, but is doing nothing to
counter terrorism.


You know LLoyd, I thought you had more in ya to let the usual sock
puppets do your talking for you, this is the second chance to answer
the question, or are you just another sock puppet too?



Ya know, I hear this kind of crap all day from the likes of you,
Gould, Harry, and the rest, can you please elaborate on this one
statement, and please give some examples, proof, or is is just more of
your endless political rubbish?




Lloyd - proud Canadian - Go Rick Mercer!



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