"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote:
Just something about tubes, transformers and monster speaker magnets
that light up a room with sound.


Tube amps do sound very nice... and even when pushed hard, their soft
clipping keeps the sound much more listenable. A well-designed solid state
amp is technically better sounding, but the human ear can easily hear it's
harsh clipping when driven hard. That has a lot to do with why many people
prefer tube amps.

Jack

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 07:20:53 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 06:13:14 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On 27 Dec 2004 05:22:09 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:



Subject: Anyone get...
From: Harry Krause

Magneplanar MG IIa's. Sound great. Also have a subwoofer in the circuit.

Magneplanar was my first guess. Nice sound. But they do need the sub.


PIfflepoop.

I have a set of Bozak Concert Grands that make anything made today
sound sick.

They are driven by...oh, wait I've mentioned this before.

Sorry.

It's all in the ear of the beholder, as it were.


Yes and mine are superior to anybody else. :)

Of course, it helps to have perfect pitch and a very keen sense of
hearing.

Seriously, I've never heard a system quite like mine - close, but not
the same.

Just something about tubes, transformers and monster speaker magnets
that light up a room with sound.

Later,

Tom


I won't argue that with you...the best setup I ever heard had a pair of
monster corner Klipschorns driven by McIntosh tube amps.

I like the Klipschorn speakers - very kewl.

My system is driven by Mac 50's - six of 'em biased and biamped.

I've had this system for a LOOOOOOONNGGGGG time. :)

But that was
many years ago. So much of today's serious music is so overproduced and
electronically cleaned, I tend to buy only the "old master" performers
on CDs. I like my music the way it sounds in the concert hall, not the
way it sounds through a digital mixmaster.

I hear you.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I have a set of Bozak Concert Grands that make anything made today
sound sick.

Klipsch Cornwall 2s.

Anything less would be uncivilized.

I used to have a set of the original Cornwalls, but they were too darn
big for the living room.

DSK

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:02:27 GMT, "Jack Goff" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote:
Just something about tubes, transformers and monster speaker magnets
that light up a room with sound.


Tube amps do sound very nice... and even when pushed hard, their soft
clipping keeps the sound much more listenable. A well-designed solid state
amp is technically better sounding, but the human ear can easily hear it's
harsh clipping when driven hard. That has a lot to do with why many people
prefer tube amps.

Totally agree. It has to do with how the signal ramps up and down
cushioned by the transformers.

I LOVE TUBES!!!

Besides, they glow in the dark. Tree' ambiance. :)

My wife remarked one time when we were sitting in the dim light
listening to something WAY back in our younger days that the soft glow
of the amps through the perforated covers was very romantic.

Being the techno geek I am, I didn't get it. :)

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 09:21:17 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I have a set of Bozak Concert Grands that make anything made today
sound sick.

Klipsch Cornwall 2s.

Anything less would be uncivilized.

Piffle. I'll put my Bozak's up against anything.

I used to have a set of the original Cornwalls, but they were too darn
big for the living room.

They were big weren't they? Damn...

One of the biggest I've ever seen was a demonstrator speaker made by
JBL. It was one piece stereo speaker made out of maple - 12 foot
long, four high and if I had to describe it, it looked like a coffee
table overdone on steroids.

The other was a set of custom Acoustic Research speakers in a artsy
fartsy movie theater located in Metarie, LA - this was back in the
early '70s. Damn things took up an entire wall.

Later,

Tom

Klipsch Cornwall 2s.

Anything less would be uncivilized.


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Piffle. I'll put my Bozak's up against anything.

Well, whatever you like best.

The Klipsch speaker line has always been more about faithfully
reproducing the original sound. I have tried this test many times...
usually with an acoustic guitar, but also with a few other instruments.

Have listeners close their eyes and play a piece of music that is
familiar to a musician standing by (with his instrument). Have him ready
to jump in and cut off the stereo, then switch back. Do this a couple of
times at random through the piece, it might take a little practice.

Can the listeners tell the difference? If not, that's good enough for me.



One of the biggest I've ever seen was a demonstrator speaker made by
JBL. It was one piece stereo speaker made out of maple - 12 foot
long, four high and if I had to describe it, it looked like a coffee
table overdone on steroids.

The other was a set of custom Acoustic Research speakers in a artsy
fartsy movie theater located in Metarie, LA - this was back in the
early '70s. Damn things took up an entire wall.


Well, theory suggests that the best sound reproduction would involve
radiating from at least 2 walls surrounding the listener. It wasn't a
macho thing for me with the Cornwalls, they just sounded so good. But
speaker size could be a sort of conspicuous consumption.

The Grateful Dead used to tour with a PA system that included "the
JBL-Alembic Wall Of Sound" set of speakers which took about nine
18-wheelers to tote it around. Cut the profit margin on their tours
considerably.... the funny thing is that this always struck me as an
example of capitalistic excess, not what the band was known for ;)

DSK

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:09:59 -0500, DSK wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

The Grateful Dead used to tour with a PA system that included "the
JBL-Alembic Wall Of Sound" set of speakers which took about nine
18-wheelers to tote it around. Cut the profit margin on their tours
considerably.... the funny thing is that this always struck me as an
example of capitalistic excess, not what the band was known for ;)

Odd how that works, huh?

A few years ago, I was involved in a charity concert with some name
musicians and one that was requested was Jimmy Buffet.

All of the artists we contacted were great except for him.

Without getting into details, I'll never buy another JB cd or book
again.

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:29:37 GMT, wrote:

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:10:31 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 27 Dec 2004 05:22:09 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Anyone get...
From: Harry Krause

Magneplanar MG IIa's. Sound great. Also have a subwoofer in the circuit.

Magneplanar was my first guess. Nice sound. But they do need the sub.

PIfflepoop.

I have a set of Bozak Concert Grands that make anything made today
sound sick.

They are driven by...oh, wait I've mentioned this before.


Do you have the original Bozack branded tri-amplified electronics?

I did, but the electronics are my own design.

That's something you don't see very often any more. In a former life,
I sold a ton of Bozak speakers. Being in Fairfield County, CT, we had
a VERY close relationship with Bozack that included sharing of some
employees! I think for most people, the Symphonys were about the
limit. You really needed a huge room with a high ceiling to properly
enjoy the Concert Grands. Nothing like 'em for organ music...

I really liked the Symphonys, but at the time...well, excess wasn't a
problem for me. :)

We may have run into each other at some point - I bought them from the
factory (did you know Tom Kettle - I think that was his name).

I have a huge room that was divided into a large recreation room and
my office off it. That is my section of the house - it belongs to
solely to me - mine, mine, mine. It is my sanctuary.

Of course, if I crank it...well, let's just say that the neighbors can
dance all night long if they want.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 09:21:17 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I have a set of Bozak Concert Grands that make anything made today
sound sick.

Klipsch Cornwall 2s.

Anything less would be uncivilized.

Piffle. I'll put my Bozak's up against anything.

I used to have a set of the original Cornwalls, but they were too darn
big for the living room.

They were big weren't they? Damn...

One of the biggest I've ever seen was a demonstrator speaker made by
JBL. It was one piece stereo speaker made out of maple - 12 foot
long, four high and if I had to describe it, it looked like a coffee
table overdone on steroids.

The other was a set of custom Acoustic Research speakers in a artsy
fartsy movie theater located in Metarie, LA - this was back in the
early '70s. Damn things took up an entire wall.

Later,

Tom

If you ever get a chance, audition a setup that includes speakers by Aerial
Acoustics, a little know high end speaker manufacturer up in Wilmington.
(not to be confused with "Ariel" speakers). They require a good amp - your
Macs would do just fine.

http://www.aerialacoustics.com/Aerial/

They offer quite a range - both in performance and price. I installed a
setup last winter in Florida, originally intended to be the sound system for
a kick-ass home theater room, but now I usually go in just to listen to
music.

Eisboch

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:37:06 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 09:21:17 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I have a set of Bozak Concert Grands that make anything made today
sound sick.

Klipsch Cornwall 2s.

Anything less would be uncivilized.

Piffle. I'll put my Bozak's up against anything.

I used to have a set of the original Cornwalls, but they were too darn
big for the living room.

They were big weren't they? Damn...

One of the biggest I've ever seen was a demonstrator speaker made by
JBL. It was one piece stereo speaker made out of maple - 12 foot
long, four high and if I had to describe it, it looked like a coffee
table overdone on steroids.

The other was a set of custom Acoustic Research speakers in a artsy
fartsy movie theater located in Metarie, LA - this was back in the
early '70s. Damn things took up an entire wall.

Later,

Tom

If you ever get a chance, audition a setup that includes speakers by Aerial
Acoustics, a little know high end speaker manufacturer up in Wilmington.
(not to be confused with "Ariel" speakers). They require a good amp - your
Macs would do just fine.

http://www.aerialacoustics.com/Aerial/

They offer quite a range - both in performance and price. I installed a
setup last winter in Florida, originally intended to be the sound system for
a kick-ass home theater room, but now I usually go in just to listen to
music.

I'll check them out - they sure look interesting.

Thanks.

Later,

Tom