Is your cell phone ringing and ringing and ringing?
 

The story seems to be both true & false...Check out this link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp


My bottom line on this is that the initial cell-phone list
probably WONT be sold but I'll register with the
do-not-call list anyway. Why not. It's free and I
really don't want calls from anyone except people
I give my number to.

Gary

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:23:10 -0500, "Gary"
wrote:


The story seems to be both true & false...Check out this link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp


My bottom line on this is that the initial cell-phone list
probably WONT be sold but I'll register with the
do-not-call list anyway. Why not. It's free and I
really don't want calls from anyone except people
I give my number to.

If cell phones fall under the same rules as house phones, then guess
what?

POLITICIANS!!!!

CHARITIES!!!!

OH BOY!!!!!

Later,

Tom

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gary wrote:
The story seems to be both true & false...Check out this link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp


My bottom line on this is that the initial cell-phone list
probably WONT be sold but I'll register with the
do-not-call list anyway. Why not. It's free and I
really don't want calls from anyone except people
I give my number to.



I think that's the proper approach...and it is one I am following.

So you're going to take your currently non-published cell number, and
"publish" it on a government list?

Hmm... I don't think so...

Jack

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
m...

So you're going to take your currently non-published cell number, and
"publish" it on a government list?

Hmm... I don't think so...

Jack


To each his own. But the FTC is administering this list. I trust
this for the following reasons:

+ The do-not-call for home phones has worked successfully for most people.
+ Where an independent company running such a list would certainly have a
financial incentive to sell the phone numbers, there is no incentive for
the FTC
to go back on their stated goal for this list and publish it. If they
did it would
bring lots of political heat. What's the up-side for them in publishing
it ??

But, again, if you distrust the government on this issue, ok.

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:52:44 -0500, "Gary"
wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
om...

So you're going to take your currently non-published cell number, and
"publish" it on a government list?

Hmm... I don't think so...

Jack


To each his own. But the FTC is administering this list. I trust
this for the following reasons:

+ The do-not-call for home phones has worked successfully for most people.

It's a total failure. Politicians and charities are exempt.

Later,

Tom

"Short Wave Sportfishing"

It's a total failure. Politicians and charities are exempt.

Later,

Tom

I disagree. It is not a TOTAL failure. Telemarketers make the vast majority
of unsolicited calls and this seems to stop them. If polititions and
charities lost thier exemption, then it would be a complete sucess.

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:53:39 -0500, "tbd" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing"

It's a total failure. Politicians and charities are exempt.

I disagree. It is not a TOTAL failure. Telemarketers make the vast majority
of unsolicited calls and this seems to stop them. If polititions and
charities lost thier exemption, then it would be a complete sucess.

I don't know about you, but this past election season this house
received three calls a day average for the last four weeks of the
campaign. From all sides. It was annoying.

To this point, December 15th, 2004 - 2004 hrs EST, we have had nine
calls from charities.

In short, it's a total failure.

Later,

Tom

"Gary" wrote in message
...

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
m...

So you're going to take your currently non-published cell number, and
"publish" it on a government list?

Hmm... I don't think so...

Jack


To each his own. But the FTC is administering this list. I trust
this for the following reasons:
snip
But, again, if you distrust the government on this issue, ok.

Once again, I say "So you're going to take your currently *non-published*
cell number, and "publish" it on a government list?"

Your cell phone is not getting ANY of those calls yet, and it's number may
never be published, so it may never get any calls. Why put it on a list?
So you can get surveys and charities on your cell number? If it eventually
gets published, then do it. If not, why take a chance?

Jack

Harry,
The newspapers around here have picked up on this. They report that this
is an internet urban legend. They say that a compiled list of names and
numbers will be given to a 411 database by a few cell phone providers. If I
read correctly, Verizon isn't going to participate. It also said that
telemarketers are now prohibited from calling cells phones.

Paul

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I've read a little about this, both that it is going to happen and it is
not...but in any event a client sent this to me...

Effective January 1, 2005, all cell phone numbers will be made public to
the telemarketing firms. So this means as of January 1, your cell phone
may start ringing off the hook with telemarketers, but unlike your home
phone, most of you pay for your incoming calls. These telemarketers will
eat up your free minutes and end up costing you money in the long run.

According to the National "Do Not Call List", you have until December 15,
2004 to get on the national "Do not call list" for cell phones. You will
need to call 1-888-382-1222 from the cell phone that you wish to put on
the "Do not call list" or register online at www.donotcall.gov.
Registering only takes a minute, is in effect for 5 years and will
possibly save you money (definitely frustration). Make sure you register
now and pass this message on to your family & friends.

Harry Krause wrote:
Paul Schilter wrote:

Well, I registered our cells...and I actually have gotten a few
telemarketing calls on my cell this year, since switching to Verizon.

You are implying that you received those calls because Verizon did
something?

Not likely. I get telemarketing calls on my cell phone from time to
time. I would bet that if I researched how my number ended up on any
lists, I would find that it started with someone I had a business
relationship with, not Verizon.

Paul Schilter wrote:
Harry,
The newspapers around here have picked up on this. They report that this
is an internet urban legend. They say that a compiled list of names and
numbers will be given to a 411 database by a few cell phone providers. If I
read correctly, Verizon isn't going to participate. It also said that
telemarketers are now prohibited from calling cells phones.

Paul

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I've read a little about this, both that it is going to happen and it is
not...but in any event a client sent this to me...

Effective January 1, 2005, all cell phone numbers will be made public to
the telemarketing firms. So this means as of January 1, your cell phone
may start ringing off the hook with telemarketers, but unlike your home
phone, most of you pay for your incoming calls. These telemarketers will
eat up your free minutes and end up costing you money in the long run.

According to the National "Do Not Call List", you have until December 15,
2004 to get on the national "Do not call list" for cell phones. You will
need to call 1-888-382-1222 from the cell phone that you wish to put on
the "Do not call list" or register online at www.donotcall.gov.
Registering only takes a minute, is in effect for 5 years and will
possibly save you money (definitely frustration). Make sure you register
now and pass this message on to your family & friends.



I maintain that my numbers, addresses, etc. are mine, and should
enjoy copyright protection, except in the case of tax collection,
fire response, etc.

The phone co. has no right to publicize my number, or address. If I
want it listed, I should pay to advertise that I am of a status to
own a phone. It is no bodies business but mine.

My views were submitted to the Canadian privacy comissioner, and the
lawyers are still arguing about it. They will probably never get
back to me again.

A class action suit to reimburse those who's time and privacy have
been abused would cost the phone co. a lot, among others, so they
fight it.

I would be inclined to forgive past offences in general below a
certain "hard" damages level, if that is what it takes to "change
step" for all of society. Past practice was OK, as it seemed to be
consensual, but it was early days. It would set a precendent in the
privacy issue.

You should not have to pay to have an unlisted number. Paying to be
listed should be your option.

Your government is at your command. Speak up.

Terry K