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NOYB December 14th 04 06:28 PM

Stupid is as stupid does...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

...the Bu****es are losing the war on terrorism.


Op/Ed - The Nation
The Nation
Diplomatic Impunity

Ari Berman

Instead of trying to halt Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program through
diplomatic engagement, the Bush Administration seems intent on undermining
the most respected


Diplomacy just buys Iran more time to develop nukes and figure out a way to
put them on top of their next Shahab rocket that can reach the Eastern
seaboard.



P.Fritz December 14th 04 06:48 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

...the Bu****es are losing the war on terrorism.


Op/Ed - The Nation
The Nation
Diplomatic Impunity

Ari Berman

Instead of trying to halt Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program
through diplomatic engagement, the Bush Administration seems intent on
undermining the most respected


Diplomacy just buys Iran more time to develop nukes and figure out a way
to put them on top of their next Shahab rocket that can reach the Eastern
seaboard.


I thought harry had started a post about asslicker.







NOYB December 14th 04 10:12 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

...the Bu****es are losing the war on terrorism.


Op/Ed - The Nation
The Nation
Diplomatic Impunity

Ari Berman

Instead of trying to halt Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program
through diplomatic engagement, the Bush Administration seems intent on
undermining the most respected



Diplomacy just buys Iran more time to develop nukes and figure out a way
to put them on top of their next Shahab rocket that can reach the Eastern
seaboard.



Sorry, but there's no reason to take any of your political posts
seriously. By your own admission, you try hard to go over the top on
these.


I'm serious in what I said. Iran is using the World's diplomatic
pussyfooting in order to buy more time in developing nukes that can fit on
a Shahab-5 warhead that can reach the Eastern US. I'll reserve comment as
to what the proper US response should be...lest you think that I'm "trying
hard to go over the top".





DSK December 14th 04 10:27 PM

NOYB wrote:
I'm serious in what I said.


C'mon, even you don't think you're serious

... Iran is using the World's diplomatic
pussyfooting in order to buy more time in developing nukes that can fit on
a Shahab-5 warhead that can reach the Eastern US. I'll reserve comment as
to what the proper US response should be...lest you think that I'm "trying
hard to go over the top".


What is a Shahab-5? Why do you expect it to have greater than a 7x
improvement on range over the Shahab-3?

http://www.command-post.org/nk/2_archives/014415.html

As for Iran developing nuclear potential, I agree that it's ridiculous.
They're sitting on the world's largest supply of oil, they don't need
nuclear power.

What's the nost practical way of preventing it? Acting like a bunch of
fundie whackoes ourselves, alienating the rest of the world even
further, and strengthening the most conservative.... oops, I meant
radical religious... political element in Iran?

DSK


Bert Robbins December 14th 04 11:55 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
I'm serious in what I said.


C'mon, even you don't think you're serious

... Iran is using the World's diplomatic pussyfooting in order to buy
more time in developing nukes that can fit on a Shahab-5 warhead that can
reach the Eastern US. I'll reserve comment as to what the proper US
response should be...lest you think that I'm "trying hard to go over the
top".


What is a Shahab-5? Why do you expect it to have greater than a 7x
improvement on range over the Shahab-3?

http://www.command-post.org/nk/2_archives/014415.html

As for Iran developing nuclear potential, I agree that it's ridiculous.
They're sitting on the world's largest supply of oil, they don't need
nuclear power.


Being in the nuclear weapons club gives you more clout when dealing with
other nations.
It has nothing to do with the generation of electricity.

What's the nost practical way of preventing it? Acting like a bunch of
fundie whackoes ourselves, alienating the rest of the world even further,
and strengthening the most conservative.... oops, I meant radical
religious... political element in Iran?


I believe that the Isreali's already know how to solve this problem!



NOYB December 15th 04 01:36 AM


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
I'm serious in what I said.


C'mon, even you don't think you're serious

... Iran is using the World's diplomatic pussyfooting in order to buy
more time in developing nukes that can fit on a Shahab-5 warhead that can
reach the Eastern US. I'll reserve comment as to what the proper US
response should be...lest you think that I'm "trying hard to go over the
top".


What is a Shahab-5?



The Shahab-5 is a multiple stage fuel rocket claimed as an
intermediate-range missile. The missile is believed to be based on the North
Korean Taep'o-Dong 1 and Taep'o-Dong 2. As a result of its likely
inaccuracy, the missile's utility is probably restricted to attacking
population centers or spreading radiation rather than hitting military
targets. The missile is thus probably more of a blackmail or terrorist
weapon than a military asset.

The Shahab-5 is still in development and is not slated to enter service in
Iran until about 2005. There is little concrete information regarding its
capabilities, other than that it will likely consist of two or three
liquid/solid propellant stages.



The integration of technology from the North Korean Taep'o Dong 2 missile
into the Shahab-5 represents a substantial security concern for the United
States. The Shahab-5 represents a significant technological leap for a rogue
state, and is a stepping stone to the development of an ICBM. Effectively
doubling the strike capacity of Iran, even as it continues its nuclear
weapons program, places most of Europe, Russia and Asia within range. The
United Kingdom, a staunch ally of the United States, is completely
vulnerable to an attack, as are a number of key US allies. The development
of a nuclear warhead for the Shahab-5 and Shahab-6 will undermine the
ability of the United States to operate in the region and give Iran
considerable political leverage. The potential of the transfer of this
technology to other rogue states or terrorist groups is also substantial.
Iran's military is known to support terrorist groups and the Iranian
government has little control of its own missile force.

The Shahab-5 has the shorter range of the new class of long range missiles
being produced by Iran in conjunction with North Korea. Like the Shabab-6,
the Shahab-5 owes most of its technology to the North Korean Taep'o-Dong 2,
which in turn is largely derived from technology from the People's Republic
of China.



Why do you expect it to have greater than a 7x improvement on range over
the Shahab-3?


Because it's based on multiple-stage technology from North Korea that has
already been deemed capable of striking the US West Coast.




http://www.command-post.org/nk/2_archives/014415.html

As for Iran developing nuclear potential, I agree that it's ridiculous.
They're sitting on the world's largest supply of oil, they don't need
nuclear power.

What's the nost practical way of preventing it?


A full aerial assault on every known or suspected nuclear production
facility within Iran.



NOYB December 15th 04 01:38 AM


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
I'm serious in what I said.


C'mon, even you don't think you're serious

... Iran is using the World's diplomatic pussyfooting in order to buy
more time in developing nukes that can fit on a Shahab-5 warhead that can
reach the Eastern US. I'll reserve comment as to what the proper US
response should be...lest you think that I'm "trying hard to go over the
top".


What is a Shahab-5? Why do you expect it to have greater than a 7x
improvement on range over the Shahab-3?


Because it will probably be an ICBM:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/mda/mdalink/bcmt/mrbm_irbm_3.htm



DSK December 15th 04 01:46 AM

What is a Shahab-5? Why do you expect it to have greater than a 7x
improvement on range over the Shahab-3?



NOYB wrote:
Because it will probably be an ICBM:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/mda/mdalink/bcmt/mrbm_irbm_3.htm


You should have looked a little further in the same web site

http://www.acq.osd.mil/mda/mdalink/bcmt/mrbm_irbm_5.htm

Note that nobody, not China, not India (who have both been building
missiles for a long time) have an ICBM with a range over 2,000 miles. It
is 6,000 miles from Iran to the closest point of the U.S.

You know why they call it rocket science?

Lemme 'splain it to you in simple words... the Iranians are not going to
improve their rockets that much any time soon... think decades.

Now, let's talk about a realistic threat scenario instead... smuggling a
dirty bomb (conventional explosives packed into nuclear material) into
the U.S. and setting it off. But hey, you know, that would be really
tricky to defend against, so I can see why the Bushies want to chase pie
in the sky boogey men instead.

DSK


NOYB December 15th 04 02:45 AM


"DSK" wrote in message
...
What is a Shahab-5? Why do you expect it to have greater than a 7x
improvement on range over the Shahab-3?



NOYB wrote:
Because it will probably be an ICBM:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/mda/mdalink/bcmt/mrbm_irbm_3.htm


You should have looked a little further in the same web site

http://www.acq.osd.mil/mda/mdalink/bcmt/mrbm_irbm_5.htm

Note that nobody, not China, not India (who have both been building
missiles for a long time) have an ICBM with a range over 2,000 miles. It
is 6,000 miles from Iran to the closest point of the U.S.


Doh! You do know why it's called an *INTERCONTINENTAL* Ballistic Missile,
don't you?

Since 1981, China has had ICBM's that can reach the continental US:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/

Are you drinking heavily lately? It's getting too easy to beat you in an
argument. I remember the days when you at least put up a decent fight.





thunder December 15th 04 11:28 AM

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:55:16 -0500, Bert Robbins wrote:


I believe that the Isreali's already know how to solve this problem!


Perhaps, it is because Israel has nukes, that others in the region are
interested in obtaining them.

DSK December 15th 04 11:59 AM

NOYB wrote:
Doh! You do know why it's called an *INTERCONTINENTAL* Ballistic Missile,
don't you?

Since 1981, China has had ICBM's that can reach the continental US:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/


Excuse me, but you're taking all that right-wing fantasy a little too
seriously. Are these the ICBM's that Clinton sold them targeting
computers for?

But then, you don't even understand why they call it "rocket science" do
you?



... I remember the days when you at least put up a decent fight.


You can't remember to tie your shoes in the morning, that's why your
mommy has to help you.

Fact- a scary scary web page about Chinese missiles does not prove that
the Iranians will have one within our lifetimes.

Fact- a much more realistic threat is a nuke smuggled in across our border

DSK


NOYB December 15th 04 12:40 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
Doh! You do know why it's called an *INTERCONTINENTAL* Ballistic
Missile, don't you?

Since 1981, China has had ICBM's that can reach the continental US:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/


Excuse me, but you're taking all that right-wing fantasy a little too
seriously. Are these the ICBM's that Clinton sold them targeting computers
for?

But then, you don't even understand why they call it "rocket science" do
you?



... I remember the days when you at least put up a decent fight.


You can't remember to tie your shoes in the morning, that's why your mommy
has to help you.

Fact- a scary scary web page about Chinese missiles does not prove that
the Iranians will have one within our lifetimes.


China is selling them the technology.



NOYB December 15th 04 03:05 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..

NOYB wrote:

Doh! You do know why it's called an *INTERCONTINENTAL* Ballistic
Missile, don't you?

Since 1981, China has had ICBM's that can reach the continental US:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/

Excuse me, but you're taking all that right-wing fantasy a little too
seriously. Are these the ICBM's that Clinton sold them targeting
computers for?

But then, you don't even understand why they call it "rocket science" do
you?



... I remember the days when you at least put up a decent fight.

You can't remember to tie your shoes in the morning, that's why your
mommy has to help you.

Fact- a scary scary web page about Chinese missiles does not prove that
the Iranians will have one within our lifetimes.



China is selling them the technology.



If that is the case, then once again I ask you, why hasn't the Idiot Known
As Bush invaded Chine?

Here's your answer:

We'd get our asses whipped. Again.


I have no doubt that we'd win a conflict with *any* country in the World.
However, our casualty rate in a war against a country like China would be in
the hundreds of thousands. With casualties that high, our leaders would
most likely employ nukes...raising the death toll on each side into the tens
of millions ( in China's case, probably into the hundreds of millions).
That's why we haven't invaded China.

Nuclear weapons are the great equalizer...which is why we can't allow a
country like Iran to obtain them. The Muslim extremists who seem to be
running things these days believe that the Koran tells them that they should
strike at the infidels if their military might should become equal or
superior to ours.




We only invade dippy little countries whose military cannot fight back.


Because sooner or later those dippy little countries will get their hands on
a nuke...and at that point, they'll go looking for a fight with us.



DSK December 20th 04 02:12 AM

NOYB wrote:
Think a few months to a few years. The Iranians are working on developing
their own ICBM's, and it's believed that they'll have 'em by the end of this
decade.


By whom? Paranoid whacko freaks like you?

Why would anybody bother to develop a ballistic missile when they could
just about ship a nuke UPS, and President Bush would not bother to
upgrade border security to stop it?

DSK


Dave Hall December 20th 04 03:17 PM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:12:22 -0500, DSK wrote:

NOYB wrote:
Think a few months to a few years. The Iranians are working on developing
their own ICBM's, and it's believed that they'll have 'em by the end of this
decade.


By whom? Paranoid whacko freaks like you?

Why would anybody bother to develop a ballistic missile when they could
just about ship a nuke UPS, and President Bush would not bother to
upgrade border security to stop it?



Because we aren't the only target on their agenda?


Dave


DSK December 20th 04 06:06 PM

Why would anybody bother to develop a ballistic missile when they could
just about ship a nuke UPS, and President Bush would not bother to
upgrade border security to stop it?




Dave Hall wrote:
Because we aren't the only target on their agenda?


A missile can be too easily backtracked. The best way to do great harm
to two enemies with one blow would be to smuggle a missile into an enemy
territory and launch it at the United States.

OTOH that might be a lot of extra work. The perpetrator of the worst
terrorist attack against the U.S. (or anybody else) in history is still
walking free.

DSK


BSCHNAUTZ January 6th 05 01:38 AM

Why hasn't the Idiot Known As Bush attacked China?

What? And bankrupt Walmart????

Dave Hall January 6th 05 01:43 PM

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:05:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

BSCHNAUTZ wrote:
Why hasn't the Idiot Known As Bush attacked China?



What? And bankrupt Walmart????



With that result alone, it would be worth considering, since Wal-Mart
does more damage to the United States than all the Moslem terrorists put
together.



In what way?

Dave

JohnH January 6th 05 10:51 PM

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:43:16 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:05:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

BSCHNAUTZ wrote:
Why hasn't the Idiot Known As Bush attacked China?


What? And bankrupt Walmart????



With that result alone, it would be worth considering, since Wal-Mart
does more damage to the United States than all the Moslem terrorists put
together.



In what way?

Dave


It isn't unionized and therefore doesn't support union officials. It
also provides goods to those who can't afford to buy the same thing at
Macy's for half again as much.

I personally hate to shop at WalMart, but will do so on occasion.
WalMart has the cheapest 40lb bags of black oil sunflower seeds in the
area. My birds love them.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

NOYB January 7th 05 01:29 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
BSCHNAUTZ wrote:
Why hasn't the Idiot Known As Bush attacked China?



What? And bankrupt Walmart????



With that result alone, it would be worth considering, since Wal-Mart does
more damage to the United States than all the Moslem terrorists put
together.


I just bought my wife a notebook computer from Walmart for $648. For
another $40, I got a 3 year extended warranty. It has a1.2 GHz AMD Athlon 4
processor, 256k RAM, DVD/CD/RW, 40 gig HD, and built-in Wi-Fi.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=3202221

She got it primarily to wirelessly surf the web, download music to burn to a
CD, and to do light word-processing work. It's a nice little notebook. The
only negatives are that the fan seems a bit louder than on my Compaq, and
the battery life is about 50% less (I have a Centrino processor).

Given Wal-Mart's liberal return policy, and the fact that a 3-year extended
warranty is only $40, I figured that I can't go wrong should the thing crap
out in a year or two.




Dave Hall January 7th 05 03:53 PM

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:51:55 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:43:16 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:05:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

BSCHNAUTZ wrote:
Why hasn't the Idiot Known As Bush attacked China?


What? And bankrupt Walmart????


With that result alone, it would be worth considering, since Wal-Mart
does more damage to the United States than all the Moslem terrorists put
together.



In what way?

Dave


It isn't unionized and therefore doesn't support union officials. It
also provides goods to those who can't afford to buy the same thing at
Macy's for half again as much.

I personally hate to shop at WalMart, but will do so on occasion.
WalMart has the cheapest 40lb bags of black oil sunflower seeds in the
area. My birds love them.



I wanted to hear Harry's rationale for his comments. I was also ready
to point out that Wal-Mart's success is due to their years of volume
purchasing and their ability to offer lower prices. Evidently people
want to pay less for the things that they need. That's the whole point
of competition.

I'm not a big fan of a conglomerate like Wal-Mart either, but I'm not
about to cut off my nose to spite my face, and ignore the savings I
get by buying there.

Dave

Gould 0738 January 7th 05 04:00 PM

Given Wal-Mart's liberal return policy,

Sorry, but there ain't one darn thing "liberal" about WalMart.

http://www.wffhome.com/

Among this redneck, reactionary, group's claims to fame is funding the
"Evergreen Freedom Foundation" in my home state.
They support some shamefully selfish and destructive philosophies.

The current social contribution of WalMart proper is to insist that all of its
suppliers manufacture everything offshore. To hell with the long term economic
health of the country, as long as the "right" folks can make as much money as
possible in the short term. Treason doesn't have to be political, it can be
economic as well.

Like most urban residents, I take specific pride in *never* purchasing anything
from WalMart. I'll pay 20% more to do business with a company that has a
conscience.



P.Fritz January 7th 05 04:15 PM


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:51:55 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:43:16 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:05:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

BSCHNAUTZ wrote:
Why hasn't the Idiot Known As Bush attacked China?


What? And bankrupt Walmart????


With that result alone, it would be worth considering, since Wal-Mart
does more damage to the United States than all the Moslem terrorists put
together.


In what way?

Dave


It isn't unionized and therefore doesn't support union officials. It
also provides goods to those who can't afford to buy the same thing at
Macy's for half again as much.

I personally hate to shop at WalMart, but will do so on occasion.
WalMart has the cheapest 40lb bags of black oil sunflower seeds in the
area. My birds love them.



I wanted to hear Harry's rationale for his comments.


The rationale is that the Wal-Marts owners contribute heavily to
republicans........that is enough to make it 'evil' to moron krause and
company.

I was also ready
to point out that Wal-Mart's success is due to their years of volume
purchasing and their ability to offer lower prices. Evidently people
want to pay less for the things that they need. That's the whole point
of competition.

I'm not a big fan of a conglomerate like Wal-Mart either, but I'm not
about to cut off my nose to spite my face, and ignore the savings I
get by buying there.

Dave




JimH January 7th 05 04:19 PM


"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:51:55 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:43:16 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:05:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

BSCHNAUTZ wrote:
Why hasn't the Idiot Known As Bush attacked China?


What? And bankrupt Walmart????


With that result alone, it would be worth considering, since Wal-Mart
does more damage to the United States than all the Moslem terrorists
put
together.


In what way?

Dave

It isn't unionized and therefore doesn't support union officials. It
also provides goods to those who can't afford to buy the same thing at
Macy's for half again as much.

I personally hate to shop at WalMart, but will do so on occasion.
WalMart has the cheapest 40lb bags of black oil sunflower seeds in the
area. My birds love them.



I wanted to hear Harry's rationale for his comments.


The rationale is that the Wal-Marts owners contribute heavily to
republicans........that is enough to make it 'evil' to moron krause and
company.


Add to that the fact that they are non union and have resisted all attempts
by the unions to force them to unionize.



[email protected] January 7th 05 04:43 PM

Gould 0738 wrote:
Given Wal-Mart's liberal return policy,


Sorry, but there ain't one darn thing "liberal" about WalMart.

http://www.wffhome.com/

Among this redneck, reactionary, group's claims to fame is funding

the
"Evergreen Freedom Foundation" in my home state.
They support some shamefully selfish and destructive philosophies.

The current social contribution of WalMart proper is to insist that

all of its
suppliers manufacture everything offshore. To hell with the long term

economic
health of the country, as long as the "right" folks can make as much

money as
possible in the short term. Treason doesn't have to be political, it

can be
economic as well.

Like most urban residents, I take specific pride in *never*

purchasing anything
from WalMart. I'll pay 20% more to do business with a company that

has a
conscience.




On most items I'd care to buy, Wal-Mart's prices are about the same as
everyone else's. Couple of weeks ago, I took a flyer of Wal-Mart's to
my unionized grocery store, and found, that for the items I was buying
at the grocery, Wal-Mart had the same price for most items, was a
little higher on some and a little lower on others. These were not food
items...I would not buy any food items from a retail operation as dirty
and sloppy as Wal-Mart.


JohnH January 7th 05 08:30 PM

On 07 Jan 2005 16:00:46 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Given Wal-Mart's liberal return policy,


Sorry, but there ain't one darn thing "liberal" about WalMart.

http://www.wffhome.com/

Among this redneck, reactionary, group's claims to fame is funding the
"Evergreen Freedom Foundation" in my home state.
They support some shamefully selfish and destructive philosophies.

The current social contribution of WalMart proper is to insist that all of its
suppliers manufacture everything offshore. To hell with the long term economic
health of the country, as long as the "right" folks can make as much money as
possible in the short term. Treason doesn't have to be political, it can be
economic as well.

Like most urban residents, I take specific pride in *never* purchasing anything
from WalMart. I'll pay 20% more to do business with a company that has a
conscience.


Chuck, would you buy a Japanese car, or pickup? Seems like a lot of
folks complaining about offshore products drive Toyotas and use
Yamahas.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Eisboch January 7th 05 09:40 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1105131632.0b9f505531cce272445a64005b4f8f48@t eranews...

Someday, hopefully soon, the Wal-Marts near you will open Wal-Mart
dental clinics, with sorta-licensed dentists from, oh, Thailand, who do
exactly what you do, but not as well, for one-tenth the price, and toss
in a BJ and massage...


BJ's at Wal-Mart?

Wow! What will they think of next?

Eisboch


NOYB January 7th 05 09:44 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Given Wal-Mart's liberal return policy,


Sorry, but there ain't one darn thing "liberal" about WalMart.

http://www.wffhome.com/

Among this redneck, reactionary, group's claims to fame is funding the
"Evergreen Freedom Foundation" in my home state.
They support some shamefully selfish and destructive philosophies.


Thanks for the link Chuck. It convinced me to go shopping at Walmart again
this afternoon. Bought: 6 Mann's Stretch 25+ lures @ $6.48 ea. (They were
$11.95 at the local tackle shop.) I also bought a DVD/VCR 20" combo for
$219, a toaster oven for $10, and a microwave for $38. If I were as
principledas you, I'd have spent an extra $150 to buy the same exact things
elsewhere. Instead, I'm going to spend the $150 to take my wife and her
Aunt and Uncle out to dinner this evening.







NOYB January 7th 05 09:57 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1105131632.0b9f505531cce272445a64005b4f8f48@t eranews...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

BSCHNAUTZ wrote:

Why hasn't the Idiot Known As Bush attacked China?


What? And bankrupt Walmart????


With that result alone, it would be worth considering, since Wal-Mart
does more damage to the United States than all the Moslem terrorists put
together.



I just bought my wife a notebook computer from Walmart for $648. For
another $40, I got a 3 year extended warranty. It has a1.2 GHz AMD
Athlon 4 processor, 256k RAM, DVD/CD/RW, 40 gig HD, and built-in Wi-Fi.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=3202221

She got it primarily to wirelessly surf the web, download music to burn
to a CD, and to do light word-processing work. It's a nice little
notebook. The only negatives are that the fan seems a bit louder than on
my Compaq, and the battery life is about 50% less (I have a Centrino
processor).

Given Wal-Mart's liberal return policy, and the fact that a 3-year
extended warranty is only $40, I figured that I can't go wrong should the
thing crap out in a year or two.




A no-name's no name? No thanks.

Someday, hopefully soon, the Wal-Marts near you will open Wal-Mart dental
clinics, with sorta-licensed dentists from, oh, Thailand, who do exactly
what you do, but not as well, for one-tenth the price, and toss in a BJ
and massage...


Not a chance. That's the beauty in belonging to a self-regulated
profession. The Dental Board will always see to it that a Florida Dental
license is a scarcity. You'd have an easier time unionizing your local
Wal-Mart than getting quasi-licensed Thai dentists working at Wal-Marts in
Florida.


Regardless, I have never had a patient transfer to a clinic-style dental
office because of their PPO without switching back to me after one trip to
the clinic. I don't belong to any plans, and I don't accept assignment of
benefit. I *do* see that every patient is seen within 5 minutes of their
scheduled time, and I only use the newest technology, and the highest
quality materials and labs. I don't offer a BJ and massage, so I guess that
could be one area where I'd be vulnerable. Perhaps if Wal-Mart starts
offering those services, then you could get a job there.







Don White January 7th 05 11:00 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message A no-name's no
name? No thanks.

Someday, hopefully soon, the Wal-Marts near you will open Wal-Mart
dental clinics, with sorta-licensed dentists from, oh, Thailand, who do
exactly what you do, but not as well, for one-tenth the price, and toss
in a BJ and massage...


Just last week NOYB was complaining about 'denturists' fitting and making
false teeth in Canada. I should seek out some of the local guys and tell
them about the opportunities in sunny Florida. I bet a lot of the retirees
would love to get a set of chompers at half NOYB's price.



NOYB January 8th 05 02:29 AM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message A no-name's no
name? No thanks.

Someday, hopefully soon, the Wal-Marts near you will open Wal-Mart
dental clinics, with sorta-licensed dentists from, oh, Thailand, who do
exactly what you do, but not as well, for one-tenth the price, and toss
in a BJ and massage...


Just last week NOYB was complaining about 'denturists' fitting and making
false teeth in Canada. I should seek out some of the local guys and tell
them about the opportunities in sunny Florida. I bet a lot of the
retirees
would love to get a set of chompers at half NOYB's price.


Denturists can't practice in Florida. Our standards are a little higher
than Cana-duh's.



NOYB January 8th 05 02:31 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message A no-name's
no
name? No thanks.

Someday, hopefully soon, the Wal-Marts near you will open Wal-Mart
dental clinics, with sorta-licensed dentists from, oh, Thailand, who do
exactly what you do, but not as well, for one-tenth the price, and toss
in a BJ and massage...



Just last week NOYB was complaining about 'denturists' fitting and making
false teeth in Canada. I should seek out some of the local guys and tell
them about the opportunities in sunny Florida. I bet a lot of the
retirees
would love to get a set of chompers at half NOYB's price.




Probably much less than half...NOYBy posted some of his prices once...they
were way over the customary and reasonably chart used around here, and I
live in a high-priced market.


I'll gladly post all my fees. They're at about the 75th percentile for my
area.

BTW--My dentures are half what Shortwave Sportfishing paid for his...and
those broke.



Bert Robbins January 8th 05 03:40 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Given Wal-Mart's liberal return policy,


Sorry, but there ain't one darn thing "liberal" about WalMart.

http://www.wffhome.com/

Among this redneck, reactionary, group's claims to fame is funding the
"Evergreen Freedom Foundation" in my home state.
They support some shamefully selfish and destructive philosophies.


Thanks for the link Chuck. It convinced me to go shopping at Walmart
again this afternoon. Bought: 6 Mann's Stretch 25+ lures @ $6.48 ea.
(They were $11.95 at the local tackle shop.) I also bought a DVD/VCR 20"
combo for $219, a toaster oven for $10, and a microwave for $38. If I
were as principledas you, I'd have spent an extra $150 to buy the same
exact things elsewhere. Instead, I'm going to spend the $150 to take my
wife and her Aunt and Uncle out to dinner this evening.


I spent $10.45 for a coffee maker at WalMart seven years ago. I have
forgotten to turn it off and left it on a few weekends and the thing still
makes coffee as well as the first time I used it!



NOYB January 8th 05 04:03 AM


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Given Wal-Mart's liberal return policy,

Sorry, but there ain't one darn thing "liberal" about WalMart.

http://www.wffhome.com/

Among this redneck, reactionary, group's claims to fame is funding the
"Evergreen Freedom Foundation" in my home state.
They support some shamefully selfish and destructive philosophies.


Thanks for the link Chuck. It convinced me to go shopping at Walmart
again this afternoon. Bought: 6 Mann's Stretch 25+ lures @ $6.48 ea.
(They were $11.95 at the local tackle shop.) I also bought a DVD/VCR 20"
combo for $219, a toaster oven for $10, and a microwave for $38. If I
were as principledas you, I'd have spent an extra $150 to buy the same
exact things elsewhere. Instead, I'm going to spend the $150 to take my
wife and her Aunt and Uncle out to dinner this evening.


I spent $10.45 for a coffee maker at WalMart seven years ago. I have
forgotten to turn it off and left it on a few weekends and the thing still
makes coffee as well as the first time I used it!


Like most places today, Wal-Mart sells its fair share of junk. However,
when you spend $10 on a toaster oven, if it even lasts you 3 months, what
have you really lost. Disposable electronics. Who'd a thunk it?



Gould 0738 January 8th 05 09:32 AM

Bought: 6 Mann's Stretch 25+ lures @ $6.48 ea. (They were
$11.95 at the local tackle shop.)


You don't get it.

The $11.95 is a better deal. You not only get a lure, you get to keep a local
tackle shop. You think the guy who owns the tackle shop will be as predisposed
to be as helpful and knowledgeable as a local tackle shop guy could be, once
he's forced out of business by WalMart and its customers and he spends the last
10 years of his working life at Walmart, greeting his old customers with a
talking cookie?

NOYB January 9th 05 12:17 AM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Bought: 6 Mann's Stretch 25+ lures @ $6.48 ea. (They were
$11.95 at the local tackle shop.)


You don't get it.

The $11.95 is a better deal. You not only get a lure, you get to keep a
local
tackle shop. You think the guy who owns the tackle shop will be as
predisposed
to be as helpful and knowledgeable as a local tackle shop guy could be,
once
he's forced out of business by WalMart and its customers and he spends the
last
10 years of his working life at Walmart, greeting his old customers with a
talking cookie?


My local tackle guy does fine. I don't buy my Mann's lures from him unless
I happen to be there getting something else. But he has top notch equipment
like Accurate, Van Staal, Shimano, Penn, Cape Fear, etc. that isn't
available elsewhere. The local guys need to carve themselves a niche...and
my guy seems to have done that to perfection.



JimH January 9th 05 12:23 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Bought: 6 Mann's Stretch 25+ lures @ $6.48 ea. (They were
$11.95 at the local tackle shop.)


You don't get it.

The $11.95 is a better deal. You not only get a lure, you get to keep a
local
tackle shop. You think the guy who owns the tackle shop will be as
predisposed
to be as helpful and knowledgeable as a local tackle shop guy could be,
once
he's forced out of business by WalMart and its customers and he spends
the last
10 years of his working life at Walmart, greeting his old customers with
a
talking cookie?


My local tackle guy does fine. I don't buy my Mann's lures from him
unless I happen to be there getting something else. But he has top notch
equipment like Accurate, Van Staal, Shimano, Penn, Cape Fear, etc. that
isn't available elsewhere. The local guys need to carve themselves a
niche...and my guy seems to have done that to perfection.


Despite the Walmarts and KMarts there will always be a need and demand for
local bait and tackle shops.

Perhaps Chuck can offer a better example.



Dave Hall January 10th 05 05:53 PM

On 08 Jan 2005 09:32:48 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Bought: 6 Mann's Stretch 25+ lures @ $6.48 ea. (They were
$11.95 at the local tackle shop.)


You don't get it.

The $11.95 is a better deal. You not only get a lure, you get to keep a local
tackle shop. You think the guy who owns the tackle shop will be as predisposed
to be as helpful and knowledgeable as a local tackle shop guy could be, once
he's forced out of business by WalMart and its customers and he spends the last
10 years of his working life at Walmart, greeting his old customers with a
talking cookie?



So then, you are saying, in essence, that you do not approve of
competition?

Should the government "step in" and prevent an American company from
being "unfairly" competitive?

Is the message you want to send to prospective entrepreneurs one that
says "be successful, but not too successful, or we'll have to shut you
down"?

Dave

Dave Hall January 10th 05 05:55 PM

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:17:43 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Bought: 6 Mann's Stretch 25+ lures @ $6.48 ea. (They were
$11.95 at the local tackle shop.)


You don't get it.

The $11.95 is a better deal. You not only get a lure, you get to keep a
local
tackle shop. You think the guy who owns the tackle shop will be as
predisposed
to be as helpful and knowledgeable as a local tackle shop guy could be,
once
he's forced out of business by WalMart and its customers and he spends the
last
10 years of his working life at Walmart, greeting his old customers with a
talking cookie?


My local tackle guy does fine. I don't buy my Mann's lures from him unless
I happen to be there getting something else. But he has top notch equipment
like Accurate, Van Staal, Shimano, Penn, Cape Fear, etc. that isn't
available elsewhere. The local guys need to carve themselves a niche...and
my guy seems to have done that to perfection.



Bingo! Give the man a cigar.

You don't try to compete by offering the same items as a high volume
general purpose department store. You'll get squashed every time. What
you need to do is offer the goods and services that the "one size fits
all" places can't match.

Dave


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