"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Dec 2004 00:13:09 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Read "Tinkerbelle" by Robert Manry. This is the story of a 14' boat

Are you sure the Nordica 16 is sixteen feet, not 16 metres?

I'll be damned - I thought this boat looked familiar. My Uncle has
one of these and sails it in Lake Michigan.

Well double danged dingy do - how about that?

I still wouldn't sail it across the North Atlantic.

Later,

Tom


I think it is OK. We can let Scott Peterson sail with him. I have looked
at the 19' boat a Japanese teenager sailed over years ago. Not a lot of
room, and he said the trip was hard. Is at the SF Maritime Museum.

Why a GPS Jax? You could do it "Dead" Reckoning.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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go for it. start out by making some "small" trips, or maybe 100 miles.

Good things to have include, the gps, a VHF (maybe), sails that can be
shortened and shortened again, lots of food, toilet paper, some books to
read,
some rain gear (Grudens are cheap, tough and waterproof), and patience.

Usually, the best time to leave Newfie is end of May or early June. West
coast
of Ireland is rough. Ask around from people who have done it as to which
Irish
Sea port (Ireland or UK) is considered better.

Enjoy.

I would like to sail my Nordica 16 across the Atlantic from Canada to
Europe. I have a GPS...can you think of anything else I will need (aside
from the obvious food and clothing)?

How long do you think it will take me? (So I will know how much food to
bring.)

Thanks
Shel

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:49:54 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Dec 2004 00:13:09 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Read "Tinkerbelle" by Robert Manry. This is the story of a 14' boat

Are you sure the Nordica 16 is sixteen feet, not 16 metres?

I'll be damned - I thought this boat looked familiar. My Uncle has
one of these and sails it in Lake Michigan.

Well double danged dingy do - how about that?

I still wouldn't sail it across the North Atlantic.

I think it is OK. We can let Scott Peterson sail with him. I have looked
at the 19' boat a Japanese teenager sailed over years ago. Not a lot of
room, and he said the trip was hard. Is at the SF Maritime Museum.

Hey, takes all kinds.

Wouldn't be something I'd want to attempt without a bigger boat.

A really BIG boat. :)

Later,

Tom

"Shelman" wrote in message
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I would like to sail my Nordica 16 across the Atlantic from Canada to
Europe. I have a GPS...can you think of anything else I will need (aside
from the obvious food and clothing)?

How long do you think it will take me? (So I will know how much food to
bring.)

Thanks
Shel

Oh boy! I was seriously looking at a Nordica 16 a while back. I love the
style ...pointy on both ends etc. Way back in the late 70's..or early
'80s a lifelong friend of mine and 'Bud the Spud' tried to setup as dealers
for the Nordica line.
I gave up on the boat after seeing one at a local yacht club ...sitting on a
crap trailer full to the gunnels (cockpit and cabin) with water. I later
found out it doesn't have a cockpit drain. You can't even leave it on a
mooring without a cover.
My advice...bring along at least $100K to pay for the Coast Guard rescue you
will require. I'm sick of the Canadian taxpayer paying for all the rescues
of half baked adventurers.

On the other hand...if you are bound and determined to do this...move up to
the Nordica 20 or Halman 20/21.
Then you have a quarter of a chance.
note: both 20 footers seem fairly plentiful at $6500-8000 CDN.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:49:54 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Dec 2004 00:13:09 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Read "Tinkerbelle" by Robert Manry. This is the story of a 14' boat

Are you sure the Nordica 16 is sixteen feet, not 16 metres?

I'll be damned - I thought this boat looked familiar. My Uncle has
one of these and sails it in Lake Michigan.

Well double danged dingy do - how about that?

I still wouldn't sail it across the North Atlantic.

I think it is OK. We can let Scott Peterson sail with him. I have
looked
at the 19' boat a Japanese teenager sailed over years ago. Not a lot of
room, and he said the trip was hard. Is at the SF Maritime Museum.

Hey, takes all kinds.

Wouldn't be something I'd want to attempt without a bigger boat.

A really BIG boat. :)

Later,

Tom


I love my boat and other boats, but going across the Pacific, I prefer a big
airplane and business class seats. When I used to travel to Asia on
business, you came to the understanding that it is a big pond down their.
14.5 hours in the air at nearly 600 mph, says it is too long in a ship at
15-20 mph. I turned down the chance at an appointment to the California
Maritime academy as I did not want to spend 9 months a year a sea. The
family friend, who was a graduate, who could have got me in, did not go to
sea. Ended up as the Harbor Master in SEA during the war. Still do not
like cruise ships. Well maybe if I got to drive it.

DSK wrote:
Shelman wrote:

I would like to sail my Nordica 16 across the Atlantic from Canada to
Europe. I have a GPS...can you think of anything else I will need (aside
from the obvious food and clothing)?


Some kind of self-sterring would be really nice.


How long do you think it will take me? (So I will know how much food to
bring.)



Read "Tinkerbelle" by Robert Manry. This is the story of a 14' boat
sailed across the Atlantic back in the 1960s. A classic story and
instructive for your kind of adventure.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Real adventure!!! just for the sake of it; need more of it in the
world, not me mind you but ..............:-)

Read, read & keep reading about other similar adventures, in a book
call "half safe" a couple drove a willys amphibious jeep across the
Atlantic after WW2 much further south (Canada to Med) so much further.

If the boat performs OK etc should be able to do it in 30-50 days (100
miles a day is not out of the question).

The cockpit needs to be self draining (probably not practical) or have
a semi permanent maybe slightly raised solid covered/deck over it (can
be bolted down but eventually removable later after the trip) with a
much smaller cockpit set into it aft that is self draining. The space in
the existing cockpit, now effectively decked over but with sealable
hatch access where you gain access to the main cabin, will be well used
for "light weight" item stowage.

Hopefully it won't happen but plan & be prepared for surviving a
complete roll over & then having no mast etc after, design your bunk
timbers etc so you have the raw ingredients of a jury rig.

Rainwater catching deserves some thought to because you'll not carry
enough water for the entire trip, but a small hand operated desalinator
is a viable option these days.

Notwithstanding it's a keel boat with concrete ballast, be as
unsinkable as you can (extra foam in every nook & cranny you don't need
for stores or inflatable bags inside) & have all the safety gear, pumps
warmth, dryness, etc etc (especially epirb).

You'll get all kinds of knockers & all kinds of loony wanna help
supporters, the trick is to listen to the sane & experienced from both
camps. By the way you're not mad, just got spirit, use it don't lose it:-)

Hope to read about your successful adventure one day:-) come back to
the NG & tell us all about it!!!

K

Calif Bill wrote:
Why a GPS Jax? You could do it "Dead" Reckoning.

OH, if only Jax would try!

Rick

could a craft this small really hold enough fuel to make the voyage?? My
24' Baja has "only" an 80 gal fuel tank. Somehow, I don't think I'd try
crossing w/ that little bit of fuel - even if I thought the boat would
surviv the journey!

--
G.D.Smith
Harpers Ferry, WV

FOR SALE: 2003 Swee****er 22' Pontoon Boat
http://icanhelp56.homestead.com/gs_pontoon01.html

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"Don White" wrote in message
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On the other hand...if you are bound and determined to do this...move up
to
the Nordica 20 or Halman 20/21.
Then you have a quarter of a chance.
note: both 20 footers seem fairly plentiful at $6500-8000 CDN.

"Glenn S." wrote in message
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could a craft this small really hold enough fuel to make the voyage?? My
24' Baja has "only" an 80 gal fuel tank. Somehow, I don't think I'd try
crossing w/ that little bit of fuel - even if I thought the boat would
surviv the journey!

--
You'd have to bank on the wind blowing most of the time and the sails
staying together.