riverman wrote:

For those who insist that Bush really has had no different impact on our
resources than anyone else....

http://oregonlive.com/news/oregonian...6292101830.xml

Enjoy the wild places while they last.


Yes, I just heard the same thing on NPR. Also, there was a change in
the definition of "wild salmon" to include hatchery-raised salmon,
which effectively side-stepped protections of the Endangered Species
Act. This happened in Bush's 1st term. Bush is a criminal
environmental plunderer.





--
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

- From "Ballad of Serenity" by Joss Whedon

NPR, now there's a credible source.
"Frederick Burroughs" wrote in message
...
riverman wrote:

For those who insist that Bush really has had no different impact on our
resources than anyone else....


http://oregonlive.com/news/oregonian...6292101830.xml

Enjoy the wild places while they last.


Yes, I just heard the same thing on NPR. Also, there was a change in
the definition of "wild salmon" to include hatchery-raised salmon,
which effectively side-stepped protections of the Endangered Species
Act. This happened in Bush's 1st term. Bush is a criminal
environmental plunderer.





--
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

- From "Ballad of Serenity" by Joss Whedon

"Mike B" wrote in message
...
NPR, now there's a credible source.

Umm, sure. Why not?

If your point is to pooh pooh the messenger, then don't just fire blindly;
come up with some DISproof. But in this case, you won't. Both of his claims
(the land ruling, and the Salmon ruling) are true, and are very widely
reported on news channels everywhere, not just NPR.

--riverman

riverman wrote:

"Mike B" wrote:

NPR, now there's a credible source.


Umm, sure. Why not?

If your point is to pooh pooh the messenger, then don't just fire blindly;
come up with some DISproof. But in this case, you won't. Both of his claims
(the land ruling, and the Salmon ruling) are true, and are very widely
reported on news channels everywhere, not just NPR.


I find NPR to be a reliable and credible news source. And, among
mainstream news providers, they will air news of environmental
importance. Actually, their story about land use/stream designation
was quite balanced, mentioning government, timber, development and
preservation interests. Give a listen (requires Windows Media or Real
Audio player):
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4195582





--
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

- From "Ballad of Serenity" by Joss Whedon

A partial list of results from Bush's first term.

-For the first time since the Clean Air Act was passed in 1970, water
pollution levels are rising according to EPA.
-A Bush White House proposal would allow twice as much sulfur dioxide
and three times more mercury emission than if the Clean Air Act were
fully implemented.
-Auto fuel efficiency has dropped to its lowest level in 20 years under
Bush policies encouraging consumers to buy SUV's.
- The Lake Erie dead zone is increasing for the first time in 30 years.

-Superfund cleanups have declined by 50 percent since Bush took office.

-Last year, EPA's two most senior enforcement officials resigned citing
the Bush administration's refusal to enforce environmental laws.
-After taking office, the Bush administration ordered EPA to halt Clean
Air Act investigations of animal factories and weaken water rules to
allow them to continue to dump waste into streams and rivers.
-The Bush administration suppressed the EPA inspector general's finding
of public health risks from poisoned air following 9/11.
- James Zahn, a scientist at Dept of Agriculture, resigned after Bush
suppressed his study proving that billions of antibiotic resistant
bacteria can be carried daily across property lines from meat factories
into neighborhoods.
- the White House blocked EPA staff from publicly discussing
perchlorate (rocket fuel) contamination, then froze federal regulations
on perchlorate in spite of new research showing high levels in drinking
water and food.
- Interior Secretary Gale Norton promised not to ideologically slant
agency science. Her friend Tom Sansonetti, former coal industry
lobbyist who is now assistant attorney general predicted: "There won't
be any biologists or botanists to come in and pull the wool over her
eyes."
- After providing the Senate Committee on Energy with Interior's
scientific assessment that Arctic oil drilling would not harm herds of
caribou, Fish and Wildlife Service biologists provided the data they
had given to Norton to a watchdog agency. There were seventeen major
changes to their report, all of which minimized reported impacts.
Norton called them typographical errors.
-White House political adviser Karl Rove forced National Marine
Fisheries scientists to alter findings on the amount of water required
for salmon to survive in the Klamath, to make sure large corporate
farms got a bigger share of river water. Result: 33,000 chinook and
coho salmon died, the largest fish kill in U.S. history.
-Mike Kelly, the biologist who drafted the original (suppressed)
opinion has been awarded federal whistleblower status. He says coho are
headed for extinction: "Morale is low among scientists here. We are
under pressure to get the right results. The administration is putting
species at risk for political gain--and not just in the Klamath."
-Norton ordered rewritten a 12-year study by federal biologists on
effects of Arctic drilling on musk oxen and snow geese. She reissued
the report two weeks later as a two page paper showing no negative
impact to wildlife.
-Norton order the suppression of two studies by the Fish and Wildlife
Service concluding that drilling would threaten polar bears and violate
the international treaty protecting the bears. She instructed F&WS to
redo the report to "reflect the Interior Department's position."
-Under Norton this is the first Fish and Wildlife Service that has not
voluntarily listed a single species as endangered or threatened.

Bush will be remembered as the president with the worst environmental
record--hands down.

JV

wrote:


-A Bush White House proposal would allow twice as much sulfur dioxide
and three times more mercury emission than if the Clean Air Act were
fully implemented...


West Virginia recently updated consumption advisories for fish caught
in the state, these include limits on fish consumption of fish caught
*statewide*. Most of the mercury pollution in WV results from power
plants and boilers that burn coal as an energy source. For the
advisories, see:
http://www.wvdhhr.org/fish/current.asp#sect3





--
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

- From "Ballad of Serenity" by Joss Whedon

Was flipping channels and caught heard that "particle" polution has lessened
by 10% in the last four years. Don't remember which network, but I'm sure it
was not one of the major 3
"Frederick Burroughs" wrote in message
...
wrote:


-A Bush White House proposal would allow twice as much sulfur dioxide
and three times more mercury emission than if the Clean Air Act were
fully implemented...


West Virginia recently updated consumption advisories for fish caught
in the state, these include limits on fish consumption of fish caught
*statewide*. Most of the mercury pollution in WV results from power
plants and boilers that burn coal as an energy source. For the
advisories, see:
http://www.wvdhhr.org/fish/current.asp#sect3





--
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

- From "Ballad of Serenity" by Joss Whedon