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Don White November 29th 04 04:11 PM

Sad News: Galyans sold off to...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Dicks.

Galyans is a first-class sporting goods operation, with wide selections
of fishing, hunting, boating and outdoor gear of all kinds. The chain
sold out to Dicks, which is a couple of steps up from Wal-Mart.

And the devolution continues...




Wonder if they went overboard on that new 'planet sized' store in Algonquin
IL?



Doug Kanter November 29th 04 05:09 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Dicks.

Galyans is a first-class sporting goods operation, with wide selections
of fishing, hunting, boating and outdoor gear of all kinds. The chain
sold out to Dicks, which is a couple of steps up from Wal-Mart.

And the devolution continues...



--
A passing thought:

"So community colleges are accessible, they're available, they're
affordable, and their curriculums don't get stuck. In other words, if
there's a need for a certain kind of worker, I presume your curriculums
evolved over time." —George W. Bush, Niceville, Fla., Aug. 10, 2004


Try Gander Mountain, if you have one nearby. If they continue growing,
they'll bury Dick's and everyone else. Great store.



Doug Kanter November 29th 04 05:26 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Dicks.

Galyans is a first-class sporting goods operation, with wide selections
of fishing, hunting, boating and outdoor gear of all kinds. The chain
sold out to Dicks, which is a couple of steps up from Wal-Mart.

And the devolution continues...



--
A passing thought:

"So community colleges are accessible, they're available, they're
affordable, and their curriculums don't get stuck. In other words, if
there's a need for a certain kind of worker, I presume your curriculums
evolved over time." —George W. Bush, Niceville, Fla., Aug. 10, 2004


Try Gander Mountain, if you have one nearby. If they continue growing,
they'll bury Dick's and everyone else. Great store.



I get most of my fishing gear locally, from small shops, but I buy
sports clothing at places like Galyans and Bass Pro Shops. We have a
Bass Pro about 50 miles from here, just south of Baltimore. It's always
worth the trip. Bass Pro has great in-store clothing sales.


The first Bass Pro catalog I saw had (among a million other things) plain
cotton vests for guys who needed a place to wear all their fishing patches.
It showed a guy in one of these vests covered with patches from Zebco, Penn,
Mister Twister, etc. You've gotta have one serious identity problem to want
to be covered with manufacturers' patches, although I guess it's not much
different than people who walk around in t-shirts with "Tommy Hilfiger" in
5" high lettering, or Yves St Laurent purses.

Good catalog, though. :-)



Doug Kanter November 29th 04 05:43 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Dicks.

Galyans is a first-class sporting goods operation, with wide

selections
of fishing, hunting, boating and outdoor gear of all kinds. The

chain
sold out to Dicks, which is a couple of steps up from Wal-Mart.

And the devolution continues...



--
A passing thought:

"So community colleges are accessible, they're available, they're
affordable, and their curriculums don't get stuck. In other words,

if
there's a need for a certain kind of worker, I presume your

curriculums
evolved over time." —George W. Bush, Niceville, Fla., Aug. 10, 2004

Try Gander Mountain, if you have one nearby. If they continue

growing,
they'll bury Dick's and everyone else. Great store.



I get most of my fishing gear locally, from small shops, but I buy
sports clothing at places like Galyans and Bass Pro Shops. We have a
Bass Pro about 50 miles from here, just south of Baltimore. It's always
worth the trip. Bass Pro has great in-store clothing sales.


The first Bass Pro catalog I saw had (among a million other things)

plain
cotton vests for guys who needed a place to wear all their fishing

patches.
It showed a guy in one of these vests covered with patches from Zebco,

Penn,
Mister Twister, etc. You've gotta have one serious identity problem to

want
to be covered with manufacturers' patches, although I guess it's not

much
different than people who walk around in t-shirts with "Tommy Hilfiger"

in
5" high lettering, or Yves St Laurent purses.

Good catalog, though. :-)



My "fishing" dress consists of clothes far too raggy to wear doing
anything else, except, perhaps, cleaning out the mower deck on my little
tractor. Old, ripped tee-shirts, frayed shorts, three-season-old
sandals, et cetera. Except, of course, when I'm fly-fishing in fresh
water...then I dress up.


No Harry...don't do it - no dressing up just because there might be some
Trout Unlimited fellows on the stream!



Doug Kanter November 29th 04 05:57 PM


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:26:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

You've gotta have one serious identity problem to want
to be covered with manufacturers' patches, although I guess it's not much
different than people who walk around in t-shirts with "Tommy Hilfiger"

in
5" high lettering, or Yves St Laurent purses.


Or SeaRay t-shirts


Well...if the dealer gives you one for free, and you happen to need another
t-shirt for chaning your oil.....maybe.



Greg November 29th 04 06:41 PM

You've gotta have one serious identity problem to want
to be covered with manufacturers' patches


These people want to be confused for those who get paid to wear someone's logo.



Doug Kanter November 29th 04 07:11 PM


"Greg" wrote in message
...
You've gotta have one serious identity problem to want
to be covered with manufacturers' patches


These people want to be confused for those who get paid to wear someone's

logo.



Or, "THEY" aren't telling us that fish are actually attracted to tacky bubba
wardrobes, and pro bass fish guys like Shaw Grigby have no special skills
other than the ability to fit lots of patches all over their clothing. :-)



Doug Kanter November 29th 04 08:47 PM

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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My "fishing" dress consists of clothes far too raggy to wear doing
anything else, except, perhaps, cleaning out the mower deck on my

little
tractor. Old, ripped tee-shirts, frayed shorts, three-season-old
sandals, et cetera. Except, of course, when I'm fly-fishing in fresh
water...then I dress up.


No Harry...don't do it - no dressing up just because there might be some
Trout Unlimited fellows on the stream!



I dress up because the fish expect it.


My friend Tom lives near a local stream that's popular with the TU crowd. In
the past, he's gotten lectures about how his Mepps spinners are murder on
the trout because they swallow them, unlike the way they sort of get
lip-hooked on a fly. It never mattered to the lecturers when Tom showed them
that he uses MUCH bigger spinners than would be considered appropriate for
small trout, specifically so they could not swallow the lure. And, he
removes the treble hooks, replaces them with singles, and files off most of
the barb. Still, he got lectured.

Back in September, he put on as much blaze orange clothing as he had in his
closet and wandered all around the stream where some of the TU characters
were handing out. He got a lecture about how the fish would be spooked by
the red color blah blah blah. He caught more than they did. :-)



Doug Kanter November 29th 04 08:49 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Greg" wrote in message
...
You've gotta have one serious identity problem to want
to be covered with manufacturers' patches

These people want to be confused for those who get paid to wear

someone's
logo.



Or, "THEY" aren't telling us that fish are actually attracted to tacky

bubba
wardrobes, and pro bass fish guys like Shaw Grigby have no special

skills
other than the ability to fit lots of patches all over their clothing.

:-)



For fishing, I'll wear almost any shirt I get for free.


If your doctor ever yells at your because you've got nasty looking moles,
try one of the LL Bean sunblock shirts (for summer). Long sleeves, light as
a feather, and they dry fast. Feels like wearing nothing. Worth every penny.
I have no choice - I've had 3 precancerous moles removed. If my doctor sees
tan lines on my arms or neck, I get a lecture. :-) Got the gigantic Tilley
hat, too.



Bert Robbins November 30th 04 01:35 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Dicks.

Galyans is a first-class sporting goods operation, with wide selections
of fishing, hunting, boating and outdoor gear of all kinds. The chain
sold out to Dicks, which is a couple of steps up from Wal-Mart.

And the devolution continues...


You are a day late and a dollar short, this is old news.



trainfan1 November 30th 04 12:40 PM

Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Dicks.

Galyans is a first-class sporting goods operation, with wide selections
of fishing, hunting, boating and outdoor gear of all kinds. The chain
sold out to Dicks, which is a couple of steps up from Wal-Mart.

And the devolution continues...



You are a day late and a dollar short, this is old news.



I was going to say... why all the excitement... this was news almost two
seasons ago!

Rob

JimH November 30th 04 01:06 PM


"trainfan1" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Dicks.

Galyans is a first-class sporting goods operation, with wide selections
of fishing, hunting, boating and outdoor gear of all kinds. The chain
sold out to Dicks, which is a couple of steps up from Wal-Mart.

And the devolution continues...



You are a day late and a dollar short, this is old news.


I was going to say... why all the excitement... this was news almost two
seasons ago!

Rob


That's our Harry for you. A day late and a dollar short. LOL!



Don White November 30th 04 02:58 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
That's our Harry for you. A day late and a dollar short. LOL!



What are you...Bert's parrot?
Did you ever have an original idea?



JimH November 30th 04 07:37 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
That's our Harry for you. A day late and a dollar short. LOL!



What are you...Bert's parrot?
Did you ever have an original idea?



Every time I post how stupid you are.



JimH November 30th 04 07:38 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
That's our Harry for you. A day late and a dollar short. LOL!



What are you...Bert's parrot?
Did you ever have an original idea?



Sorry Don, I did not see Bert's post. What are you, the NG police?



Don White November 30th 04 09:51 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
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Sorry Don, I did not see Bert's post. What are you, the NG police?



Naw.. you threw that line at me a while ago..& this case seemed perfect
opportunity to return it.





JimH November 30th 04 11:16 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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Sorry Don, I did not see Bert's post. What are you, the NG police?



Naw.. you threw that line at me a while ago..& this case seemed perfect
opportunity to return it.





Touché



Bert Robbins December 1st 04 12:12 AM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
That's our Harry for you. A day late and a dollar short. LOL!



What are you...Bert's parrot?
Did you ever have an original idea?


What does Harry's colon look like Don?



Don White December 1st 04 12:49 AM


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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What does Harry's colon look like Don?



Please keep your fetishes to yourself Bert. My supper hasn't fully settled
yet.



Don White December 1st 04 02:17 AM


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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What does Harry's colon look like Don?



Please keep your fetishes to yourself Bert. My supper hasn't fully settled
yet.



Lee D December 1st 04 06:24 AM

"NOYB" wrote
http://www.icsc.org/srch/sct/current/page138.html
In 1996 it was a public company with about 20 stores and a catalog
operation. But running both the retail and catalog outlets proved to be
too much, as did the pressure of opening new stores at a rate to satisfy
investors, said Todd Rymer, the director of real estate, who has been with
the company for 14 years. The chain filed for bankruptcy in 1997.

"Everything that you can think of probably contributed to the financial
troubles," Rymer said.

Gander Mountain's management sold the catalog operation to Sidney,
Neb.-based competitor Cabela's in 1996 for about $35 million in cash (see
story). Holiday Cos., a Bloomington, Minn.-based operator of convenience
stores, bought five of the Gander stores that year and the remainder over
the next year or so when Gander filed for bankruptcy.

Better things happened to the chain shortly thereafter. Stephen Watson,
former president of Minneapolis-based Dayton Hudson Corp. (now Target
Corp.), came on board in 1997 as CEO.



From the looks of all the ammended fillings with the SEC that they had
between 1994 and 1996 ( www.sec.gov ), it looks like they were in trouble
for a while. It kind of looks as if they were trying to hide their
problems, but kept getting caught in their annual audits. I read a little
of one of their filings - they sure knew how to make it seem like they were
doing great... even right up to the bankruptcy.

All creditors were paid off first...and the remaining money from the
buyout went to schleps like me. I got about 6 cents per share I think.


That stinks. Gander Mountain is now trading at a little over $13 a share
and was right at twice that about 6 months ago.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GMTN&d=t

Lee D



Doug Kanter December 1st 04 02:12 PM


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 03:03:26 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

I can't understand why, although maybe the company's different now than

it
was back then. The service is unbelievable. And, they've achieved

something
remarkable in the gun department: They figured out how to secure rifles

to
the display racks with wires long enough that customers can heft the

guns.
In other big sporting goods stores, they're behind the counter and the

help
makes like they're doing you a favor if you want to see one from less

than
10 feet away.


The Cabala's in Michigan even had a Gatling gun. The store is
fantastic.


That would make one helluva lamp!



Doug Kanter December 1st 04 03:02 PM


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:12:26 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 03:03:26 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

I can't understand why, although maybe the company's different now

than
it
was back then. The service is unbelievable. And, they've achieved

something
remarkable in the gun department: They figured out how to secure

rifles
to
the display racks with wires long enough that customers can heft the

guns.
In other big sporting goods stores, they're behind the counter and the

help
makes like they're doing you a favor if you want to see one from less

than
10 feet away.

The Cabala's in Michigan even had a Gatling gun. The store is
fantastic.


That would make one helluva lamp!


Speaking of lamps, there was a recent story of a guy heating his Lava
Lamp on the stove for some reason, it exploded and a piece of glass
pierced his heart.
Odd


I have a short list of people I'd like to visit if I could travel back in
time. Darwin's on that list. I'd bring him a ****load of newspaper articles
describing such incidents. Ben Franklin, too. I'd like to hand him a PDA or
cell phone and see if the phrase "What the ****?" existed in his day.



Scott Seidman December 1st 04 03:54 PM

"NOYB" wrote in :


I think Gander Mountain is owned by Cabela's now.


I'm pretty sure Gander is not owned by Cabela's. I think Cabela's bought
Gander's mailing list back when Gander was a catalog shop, but not the
company.

Scott

NOYB December 1st 04 07:21 PM


"Lee D" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote
http://www.icsc.org/srch/sct/current/page138.html
In 1996 it was a public company with about 20 stores and a catalog
operation. But running both the retail and catalog outlets proved to be
too much, as did the pressure of opening new stores at a rate to satisfy
investors, said Todd Rymer, the director of real estate, who has been
with the company for 14 years. The chain filed for bankruptcy in 1997.

"Everything that you can think of probably contributed to the financial
troubles," Rymer said.

Gander Mountain's management sold the catalog operation to Sidney,
Neb.-based competitor Cabela's in 1996 for about $35 million in cash (see
story). Holiday Cos., a Bloomington, Minn.-based operator of convenience
stores, bought five of the Gander stores that year and the remainder over
the next year or so when Gander filed for bankruptcy.

Better things happened to the chain shortly thereafter. Stephen Watson,
former president of Minneapolis-based Dayton Hudson Corp. (now Target
Corp.), came on board in 1997 as CEO.



From the looks of all the ammended fillings with the SEC that they had
between 1994 and 1996 ( www.sec.gov ), it looks like they were in trouble
for a while. It kind of looks as if they were trying to hide their
problems, but kept getting caught in their annual audits. I read a little
of one of their filings - they sure knew how to make it seem like they
were doing great... even right up to the bankruptcy.


Sounds like the right attorney could make a solid case against them. They
were cooking the books before cooking the books even became popular. I'm
sure the bankruptcy settlement protects them from the lawsuits however.


That stinks. Gander Mountain is now trading at a little over $13 a share
and was right at twice that about 6 months ago.


What can I say? I was a man ahead my time. ;-)




NOYB December 1st 04 07:22 PM


"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"NOYB" wrote in :


I think Gander Mountain is owned by Cabela's now.


I'm pretty sure Gander is not owned by Cabela's. I think Cabela's bought
Gander's mailing list back when Gander was a catalog shop, but not the
company.


Cabela's bought the catalog operations for $35 million.



Scott Seidman December 2nd 04 06:04 PM

"NOYB" wrote in
k.net:


"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"NOYB" wrote in
:


I think Gander Mountain is owned by Cabela's now.


I'm pretty sure Gander is not owned by Cabela's. I think Cabela's
bought Gander's mailing list back when Gander was a catalog shop, but
not the company.


Cabela's bought the catalog operations for $35 million.



That's definately more accurate than what I've posted. Somehow, though,
Gander ressurected as a brick-and-mortar operation, and the stores we walk
into have no affiliation with Cabela's.

Scott


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