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boat storage bussines practice
Hi I always hate this kind of thing but mindless ignorance by
bussiness people? You'd think the customer was the first concern , not his almighty buck... I've put my boat into storage for the winter at a place I've used for 3 years with good results. but This year they had me sign a policy statement that they were allowed to move peoples stuff around without consent. Also , the usual thing about damage -- its not their responsiblity. I put my boat up for the winter about 10 days ago. I placed the boat tongue on a concret block with a wooden piece of 2*4 under it. The guy at the place told me that the "wind" could affect my boat unless I put it close to the other ones. I went back on Saturday and found my boat , pushed off to one side about 4 feet-- the tounge on the ground the tarp ripped and one of the chocks about 3 feet( the left wheel ) below from were I left it. All I can determine is that the guy used his pickup truck to knock my boat over about 1-2 feet. In the process he knocked my boat off the concrete block onto the ground. I guess customers are treated like sh#t cause I signed the policy. Can such storage yards justify owner vanadalism with their discalmer policy? What really gets me is that this guy is moving my boat 2 feet to make space, yet he has a 65 year old rust bucket truck and about 34 feet of rusty pipe next to it taking up about 6 car or boat lengths that he could easily rent out and make money by sending his "junk" to the crusher.. What is your opinion ? I know I won't be going back -- very poor busines practice - knock your customers items around with your big powerful gas guzzling pickup. this guy is an accident waiting to happen and in my view very bad for business. |
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IMHO- take him to court. His new "contract" probably won't stand up against
his obvious abuse of your property. Take lots of pictures. "kruliczek" wrote in message om... Hi I always hate this kind of thing but mindless ignorance by bussiness people? You'd think the customer was the first concern , not his almighty buck... I've put my boat into storage for the winter at a place I've used for 3 years with good results. but This year they had me sign a policy statement that they were allowed to move peoples stuff around without consent. Also , the usual thing about damage -- its not their responsiblity. I put my boat up for the winter about 10 days ago. I placed the boat tongue on a concret block with a wooden piece of 2*4 under it. The guy at the place told me that the "wind" could affect my boat unless I put it close to the other ones. I went back on Saturday and found my boat , pushed off to one side about 4 feet-- the tounge on the ground the tarp ripped and one of the chocks about 3 feet( the left wheel ) below from were I left it. All I can determine is that the guy used his pickup truck to knock my boat over about 1-2 feet. In the process he knocked my boat off the concrete block onto the ground. I guess customers are treated like sh#t cause I signed the policy. Can such storage yards justify owner vanadalism with their discalmer policy? What really gets me is that this guy is moving my boat 2 feet to make space, yet he has a 65 year old rust bucket truck and about 34 feet of rusty pipe next to it taking up about 6 car or boat lengths that he could easily rent out and make money by sending his "junk" to the crusher.. What is your opinion ? I know I won't be going back -- very poor busines practice - knock your customers items around with your big powerful gas guzzling pickup. this guy is an accident waiting to happen and in my view very bad for business. |
Many, perhaps most, of us have surge brakes and use the back-up light
circuit to keep from backing with the brakes on.... many of the above stated use equipment (a tractor, for example) not suited to release the brakes and consequently back your trailer and boat with the brakes full-on.... I think my last pads, calipers, and backing plates were damaged by just such careless behavior. Run that by me again? G |
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:41:01 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:
Many, perhaps most, of us have surge brakes and use the back-up light circuit to keep from backing with the brakes on.... many of the above stated use equipment (a tractor, for example) not suited to release the brakes and consequently back your trailer and boat with the brakes full-on.... I think my last pads, calipers, and backing plates were damaged by just such careless behavior. Run that by me again? On trailers with surge brakes, the pressure is put on the rotors by backing up the trailer. The pressure of backing up the trailer pushes the plunger thus locking up the brakes. Normally, the backup light is connected to a release solenoid releasing pressure on the brake system. When moving a boat without that release solenoid, as in hooking up to a tractor with a three point hitch, for instance, you need to use a mechanical lockout to keep the pads from locking up the braking system. What our friend described is probably what happened - the mechanical release wasn't put in place causing the brakes to lock up when the trailer was moved. Without that release, there can be a big build up of mechanical pressure, although I don't know why the pressure relief didn't kick off. I have seen inexperienced yard workers do this occasionally. All the best, Tom -------------- "What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup... is there a computer terminal in the day room of some looney bin somewhere?" Bilgeman - circa 2004 |
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:42:26 -0500, Gene Kearns
. wrote: On 8 Nov 2004 08:18:30 -0800, (kruliczek) wrote: Hi I always hate this kind of thing but mindless ignorance by bussiness people? You'd think the customer was the first concern , not his almighty buck... I'll share another poor business practice with you... perpetrated on boaters by sales, maintenance, detailers, storage, etc ..... Many, perhaps most, of us have surge brakes and use the back-up light circuit to keep from backing with the brakes on.... many of the above stated use equipment (a tractor, for example) not suited to release the brakes and consequently back your trailer and boat with the brakes full-on.... I think my last pads, calipers, and backing plates were damaged by just such careless behavior. Gene I have disc brakes on my trailer too. I have been kicking around the idea of replacing my existing hitch with one that works with the backup lights. My existing hitch has a mechanical lever to lock it in the "backup" direction but it seems to pop out when I put a lot of pressure on it. I store my boat through the winter months in a controlled climate section of a limestone mine. I use the express check-in, just drop off the boat and they park it in the mine for me. My concern and it sounds like I am right is that the electronic backup locks don't have a provision for mechanically locking out the brakes for backing up. When I drop the boat off now, I use nylon ties to make sure the lock for the backup is held in position so the boat jockeys don't damage the brakes. Does yours have a mechanical reverse lockout or is it strictly done electrically? Regards John S I would rather be boating! |
I have a magnetic plug that is inserted in the side of the actuator that
prevents it from moving back and activating the brakes. Install the plug and your done. Pull the plug when your ready to haul. You can make one out of a bolt head and some wire ties that will work just as good as the magnetic one. As for the marina. They are not responsible. You know what they use to launch the boat and you should either disconnect the brakes, make a plug, or not leave it there. How are they supposed to keep the brakes from engaging if you don't protect your system. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "John S" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:42:26 -0500, Gene Kearns . wrote: On 8 Nov 2004 08:18:30 -0800, (kruliczek) wrote: Hi I always hate this kind of thing but mindless ignorance by bussiness people? You'd think the customer was the first concern , not his almighty buck... I'll share another poor business practice with you... perpetrated on boaters by sales, maintenance, detailers, storage, etc ..... Many, perhaps most, of us have surge brakes and use the back-up light circuit to keep from backing with the brakes on.... many of the above stated use equipment (a tractor, for example) not suited to release the brakes and consequently back your trailer and boat with the brakes full-on.... I think my last pads, calipers, and backing plates were damaged by just such careless behavior. Gene I have disc brakes on my trailer too. I have been kicking around the idea of replacing my existing hitch with one that works with the backup lights. My existing hitch has a mechanical lever to lock it in the "backup" direction but it seems to pop out when I put a lot of pressure on it. I store my boat through the winter months in a controlled climate section of a limestone mine. I use the express check-in, just drop off the boat and they park it in the mine for me. My concern and it sounds like I am right is that the electronic backup locks don't have a provision for mechanically locking out the brakes for backing up. When I drop the boat off now, I use nylon ties to make sure the lock for the backup is held in position so the boat jockeys don't damage the brakes. Does yours have a mechanical reverse lockout or is it strictly done electrically? Regards John S I would rather be boating! |
"John S" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:42:26 -0500, Gene Kearns . wrote: On 8 Nov 2004 08:18:30 -0800, (kruliczek) wrote: Hi I always hate this kind of thing but mindless ignorance by bussiness people? You'd think the customer was the first concern , not his almighty buck... I'll share another poor business practice with you... perpetrated on boaters by sales, maintenance, detailers, storage, etc ..... Many, perhaps most, of us have surge brakes and use the back-up light circuit to keep from backing with the brakes on.... many of the above stated use equipment (a tractor, for example) not suited to release the brakes and consequently back your trailer and boat with the brakes full-on.... I think my last pads, calipers, and backing plates were damaged by just such careless behavior. Gene I have disc brakes on my trailer too. I have been kicking around the idea of replacing my existing hitch with one that works with the backup lights. My existing hitch has a mechanical lever to lock it in the "backup" direction but it seems to pop out when I put a lot of pressure on it. I store my boat through the winter months in a controlled climate section of a limestone mine. I use the express check-in, just drop off the boat and they park it in the mine for me. My concern and it sounds like I am right is that the electronic backup locks don't have a provision for mechanically locking out the brakes for backing up. When I drop the boat off now, I use nylon ties to make sure the lock for the backup is held in position so the boat jockeys don't damage the brakes. Does yours have a mechanical reverse lockout or is it strictly done electrically? Regards John S I would rather be boating! You can add the reverse lockout solenoid to any master cylinder. They are $35-70 depending on the type: blocking or bypass. And the couplers have mechanical lockouts the same as drum brakes. My Dico has a neat feature. Pin is inserted when the couple is locked and prevents the couple from becoming unhooked even if the latch is opened. Just move the pin to a hole in the coupler neck to lockout the brakes. |
"kruliczek" wrote in message om... Can such storage yards justify owner vanadalism with their discalmer policy? Surely their disclaimer can't cover negligence, they have a duty to take care. |
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