On 15 Nov 2004 16:29:27 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Perhaps you could share some evidence of this fraud? Your concept of
"welfare" is outdated and has been for years.



May not be his fault. One of the strongest weapons in the propaganda bag has
always been, "The liberals in government take your hard earned tax dollars, the
very bread off your family's dinner table, and give it to dark skinned people
who live in the housing projects so that *those* people don't have to work at
all. The people the liberals give your money to all have large families,
because the more often a woman gets pregnanat and has a kid- regardless who the
father is or whether she even knows who the father is- the more money the
liberals will give her."

You still hear this argument on the right wing radio shows, see it repeated in
public forums, etc. Since welfare was reformed under the Clinton
Administration, there are certain groups who would simply prefer to pretend it
never happened. The traditional
"woman cranking out babies on welfare" propaganda technique is too powerful to
abandon merely because it is no longer true.

The 'out of wedlock' birth rate in Washington, DC, is close to 60%,
Chuck.

Whoops.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

JohnH wrote:

The 'out of wedlock' birth rate in Washington, DC, is close to 60%,


Been dipping your wick?


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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:33:59 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

The 'out of wedlock' birth rate in Washington, DC, is close to 60%,


Been dipping your wick?

Don't you practice what you preach?

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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:36:41 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
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JimH,
You do realize that this was Harry's favorite method of posting in
rec.boats, it will take basskisser a few months to realize that Harry is
no
longer cut and pasting news articles. As soon as he realizes his master
has
moved on to new things, Basskisser will move on to whatever Harry is
doing.


As well as Fritz's, but you seem to condone it from him just fine, huh?


Can you show me one post where I condoned anything Fritz has done?

You kiss his ass constantly!!!!


Why do you bother with either of them, Bass? Neither is anything more
than a boil on the other's ass. Just dumpster them, and all they'll have
left is each other, Hertvig and Herring.
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John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

The 'out of wedlock' birth rate in Washington, DC, is close to 60%,
Chuck.

Whoops.

Probably so. But welfare changed 7 or 8 years ago, and you should get your
facts up to date before diving into a tirade based on old information. If the
OOW birth rate were 100%, that wouldn't negate the fact that many remarks about
welfare, typically heard from the far right, are no longer factually accurate.

Gould 0738 wrote:
The 'out of wedlock' birth rate in Washington, DC, is close to 60%,
Chuck.

Whoops.

Probably so. But welfare changed 7 or 8 years ago, and you should get your
facts up to date before diving into a tirade based on old information. If the
OOW birth rate were 100%, that wouldn't negate the fact that many remarks about
welfare, typically heard from the far right, are no longer factually accurate.




I suspect you are quoting Herring here, since he is the one who is hung
up on the out-of-wedlock birth rate in DC, most probably because he's
trying to make a "racial" point without actually mentioning race.

"Out-of-wedlock" itself is not an issue. I know several women with
high-level jobs who earn more than Herring ever did, and who are
unmarried and decided to have a baby. The issue is one of supporting the
child. The answer is simple: more and better education for teens, and
decent training and jobs for teens who need to support themselves and a
child. And, of course, more easy access to birth control and abortion.

BTW, any number of "red" states have a climbing "out-of-wedlock" birth
rate. DC's, while the highest, is dropping. During the Clinton
Administration, the out-of-wedlock birth rate dropped for six years in a
row for ALL states.

The only possible conclusion...morality has gone down the tubes since
Bush was implanted.



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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:07:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Gould 0738 wrote:
The 'out of wedlock' birth rate in Washington, DC, is close to 60%,
Chuck.

Whoops.

Probably so. But welfare changed 7 or 8 years ago, and you should get your
facts up to date before diving into a tirade based on old information. If the
OOW birth rate were 100%, that wouldn't negate the fact that many remarks about
welfare, typically heard from the far right, are no longer factually accurate.




I suspect you are quoting Herring here, since he is the one who is hung
up on the out-of-wedlock birth rate in DC, most probably because he's
trying to make a "racial" point without actually mentioning race.

"Out-of-wedlock" itself is not an issue. I know several women with
high-level jobs who earn more than Herring ever did, and who are
unmarried and decided to have a baby. The issue is one of supporting the
child. The answer is simple: more and better education for teens, and
decent training and jobs for teens who need to support themselves and a
child. And, of course, more easy access to birth control and abortion.

BTW, any number of "red" states have a climbing "out-of-wedlock" birth
rate. DC's, while the highest, is dropping. During the Clinton
Administration, the out-of-wedlock birth rate dropped for six years in a
row for ALL states.

The only possible conclusion...morality has gone down the tubes since
Bush was implanted.

"I suspect you are quoting Herring here...."

Harry, you've already responded to my post, what is there to
'suspect'?

Harry, are you pretending that you've kill filed me? Awwww Man!!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!