O.T. CHALLENGE TO THE BUSH SUPPORTERS
 

In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first (money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on. Lets see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

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"dixon" wrote in message
news:gUhid.352877$3l3.340769@attbi_s03...
In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that
there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will
send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first (money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you
know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on. Lets
see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

I'm in

I'm in.
"Black-n-Gold" wrote in message
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"dixon" wrote in message
news:gUhid.352877$3l3.340769@attbi_s03...
In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that
there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will
send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first (money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you
know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on. Lets
see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

I'm in

dixon wrote:
In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first (money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on. Lets see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

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There will be no draft under Bush, just as there would have been no
draft if Kerry had won.

All the services, with the current exception of the Army, have more
applicants than billets. The Army has only recently had problems meeting
enlistment quotas. There are other methods to entice the recruitment and
retention of qualified people such as enlistment bonuses, re-enlistment
bonuses and delayed entry programs that will be deployed in lieu of a draft.

Remember Kerry stating that he would increase the size of the Army by
some number of divisions? I think that was part of his downfall. If the
military is used the way it is supposed to be used, and not for nation
building or law enforcement, the technology advantage enjoyed by the US
military more than makes up for numbers.

Implementation of a draft in the current world situation would be
political suicide for both sides of Congress.

Eisboch

Is there someone in the group that is well known by all that would hold the
money? I feel that in four years $2,000.00 might start looking pretty
tempting. I believe money orders or cashiers checks don't have an expiration
date, but I'll check.
Dixon

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"Black-n-Gold" wrote in message
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"dixon" wrote in message
news:gUhid.352877$3l3.340769@attbi_s03...
In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that
there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will
send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will
insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first (money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you
know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on. Lets
see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

I'm in

There are a couple group members that are wealthy enough that 2k would not
even begin to tempt them. That would seem to be the 1st choice.

-W

"dixon" wrote in message
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Is there someone in the group that is well known by all that would hold
the
money? I feel that in four years $2,000.00 might start looking pretty
tempting. I believe money orders or cashiers checks don't have an
expiration
date, but I'll check.
Dixon

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"Black-n-Gold" wrote in message
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"dixon" wrote in message
news:gUhid.352877$3l3.340769@attbi_s03...
In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that
there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will
send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will
insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first
(money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you
know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on.
Lets
see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

I'm in

In article Glpid.295768$wV.129554@attbi_s54,
dixon wrote:

Is there someone in the group that is well known by all that would hold the
money? I feel that in four years $2,000.00 might start looking pretty
tempting. I believe money orders or cashiers checks don't have an expiration
date, but I'll check.
Dixon

I'd be happy to hold it and stick it in a non-interest-bearing separate
account. There are plenty of banks around here that will give you a "free"
checking account - the perfect way to handle this.

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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 04:05:41 GMT, "dixon" wrote:

In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first (money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on. Lets see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

Count me in.

We don't need anyone to hold the money, these posts are archived on Google.
All we have to do is wait until the Presidents term expires, go back to
Google and bring the posts back up out of the archives. Then we can make the
arrangements for you to pay me.

John S

Some people in their ignorance like to set up their newsreader so their
posts will not be to be retrieved by Google. They thinks this will keep
their posts from making it into Google. The problem is if one person
responds to the post it will then be archived in Google and can easy be
retrieved.


"John S" wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 04:05:41 GMT, "dixon" wrote:

In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that
there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will
send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first (money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you
know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on. Lets
see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

Count me in.

We don't need anyone to hold the money, these posts are archived on
Google.
All we have to do is wait until the Presidents term expires, go back to
Google and bring the posts back up out of the archives. Then we can make
the
arrangements for you to pay me.

John S

I'm in. Let me know where you want the $$ sent to.

However, we must be CLEAR on the definition of "draft". I've tangled with
my share of politically motivated folks over the years and I want a friggin'
definition of what YOU mean by "draft" posted here for all to see (cut,
save).

Don't forget. Kerry was the one talking about "adding" to the troops.....I
dont see how that would be possible without a draft.

Don

"dixon" wrote in message
news:gUhid.352877$3l3.340769@attbi_s03...
In his debate, Bush clearly stated that the all volunteer military is
working just fine and there will be no draft. I am willing to bet that
there
will be a draft in Bushes term (if he lasts the full term). How about
$100.00 per bet. I'll tenativly go with ten of you ($1,000.00). I will
send
my money to a third party that is trusted, or any method that will insure
safety for both of us. If you agree to the bet, I will send first (money
order, cashiers check or whatever works). The third party will let you
know
the funds are there and when they recieve your money the bet is on. Lets
see
how confident you really are in your new president.
Dixon

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
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There are a couple group members that are wealthy enough that 2k would not
even begin to tempt them. That would seem to be the 1st choice.


So far I like Clams ideas. Although the honor system should work, I would
suspect out of ten people there would be a few that would have some reason
to ignore a bet made years earlier. I've loaned a lot of people money and
I've heard it all. About half of the borrowers have good intentions, but job
loss, divorce, health issues or amnesia is common. I am absolutely going to
pay if I lose. Lets give this a little thought and see if any others are
going to jump in. The people I hoped would take me up haven't responded, but
I guess it would grieve me more to have to pay them anyway.

Dixon

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"M-Tech" wrote in message
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I'm in. Let me know where you want the $$ sent to.

However, we must be CLEAR on the definition of "draft". I've tangled with
my share of politically motivated folks over the years and I want a
friggin'
definition of what YOU mean by "draft" posted here for all to see (cut,
save).

Don't forget. Kerry was the one talking about "adding" to the
troops.....I
dont see how that would be possible without a draft.

Don

Don, I agree with you 100%. I also don't want to see, after the fact,
someone else's "definition" of draft. I suppose anything other than
volunteer? That leaves me vulnerable to giant sign-up incentives or other
types of semi-forced enticement I guess. We should all try to be fair. I
also don't want to hear about some new future reason that you will say "but
he no choice but to reinstate the draft". I don't want this to be like the
seinfeld episode where jerry bets kramer that he won't install multi levels
in his apartment. Afterwards kramer decides he really doesn't want levels
and says the bet is off.

What would your definition be?
Dixon

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" Count me in.

We don't need anyone to hold the money, these posts are archived on
Google.
All we have to do is wait until the Presidents term expires, go back to
Google and bring the posts back up out of the archives. Then we can make
the
arrangements for you to pay me.

John S

John, you sound pretty confident. I wouldn't be that confident if we were
talking about no draft until his first term expires.
Dixon

If the
military is used the way it is supposed to be used, and not for nation
building or law enforcement, the technology advantage enjoyed by the US
military more than makes up for numbers.

If.

What happens when we use the military for nation building and law enforcement,
as we are at the present time? Unless this changes in the future- and it won't
for the next four years, we lose the advantage of our technologies. Our most
effective technologies were designed to defeat sophisticated weapons systems
rather than individual criminal terrorist *******s hiding among a population of
innocents.

Is there someone in the group that is well known by all that would hold the
money? I feel that in four years $2,000.00 might start looking pretty
tempting. I believe money orders or cashiers checks don't have an expiration
date, but I'll check.
Dixon

Set up a commercial escrow account. Absolutely neutral third party, written
instructions for
payment, etc.