On 03 Nov 2004 18:24:16 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Bright and sophisticated on the east and west
coats and the upper midwest, and

Look at the bright side, Harry. If we can liberate a few minds in just a couple
of little states across the northern Rockies, the moderate to liberal blue
states will have the more conservative red states "surrounded." :-)


When the war between the red and blue states erupts, the reds will have the
geographic advantage of being contiguous. The blues will have the advantage of
controlling most of the economy, (between the NE and California).

The people with their hands on the button of the economy are not, for
the most part, in your camp. The people who paint your states blue are
all those "defendants" of the social safety net that usually scurry
around in the duller parts of the big cities.


Or we can just suck it up and go on. The increased Republican majority in
congress and Bush's 3% "landslide mandate" will move America even more to the
right than we have gone in the last four years. Unless
the population follows along, (as it appears
to have done, somewhat, in the last four), our conservative friends and
brothers will appear pretty far out of the mainstream next time the big prize
is up for grabs. The pendulum will swing back toward the middle in '08, it
always does.Take heart. Kerry made a much better showing than Dukakis or
Mondale in similar situations. Remember when Fritz Mondale won Minnesota,
period?

The swing will continue Chuck. The formerly sleeping and apathetic
majority is finally waking up and registering their disgust for the
direction this country had been heading in for the past 30 years.
We're sick of political correctness, the propping up of slackers, and
having our traditions challenged because a few people, with a
seriously inflated sense of self worth, become "offended" by them.

Activism used to be the sole bastion of the left. That is also no
longer true. More and more college campuses are seeing conservatives
stand up and fight back against the liberals, by forming clubs and
organizations of their own. Several liberal instructors have been
taken to task for their obvious bias in a venue where objectivity
should preclude personal opinion. The alternative media outlets are
getting the message out, despite the efforts of the biased (And if you
can't see it now after this election) traditional major media outlets
to squash it. It's all part of the rising backlash. To try to demonize
it as "Radical Christian right wingers" seriously underscores just how
little you truly understand of the dynamics of the situation.

This is probably not a good time to be a liberal.

Dave

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:31:08 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


The people with their hands on the button of the economy are not, for the
most part, in your camp. The people who paint your states blue are all
those "defendants" of the social safety net that usually scurry around in
the duller parts of the big cities.

Perhaps they should be. Historically, the economy does better under a
democrat administration. It's a myth that Republicans are the fiscally
conservative party. Just go back and look at the past several
administrations. Growth in government, Republicans. Deficits,
Republicans.

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 09:27:57 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:31:08 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


The people with their hands on the button of the economy are not, for the
most part, in your camp. The people who paint your states blue are all
those "defendants" of the social safety net that usually scurry around in
the duller parts of the big cities.

Perhaps they should be. Historically, the economy does better under a
democrat administration. It's a myth that Republicans are the fiscally
conservative party. Just go back and look at the past several
administrations. Growth in government, Republicans. Deficits,
Republicans.

I'm sure you overlooked the Carter administration somewhere in there.

Actually the state of the economy has little to do with the current
sitting president. The president has about as much effect on the
economy as a water tuber has control on where he goes when behind the
boat. It's more of a wag the dog scenario. The economy goes south.
People (wrongly) blame the sitting president. They elect the
opposition. The economy rebounds and he claims credit.

Dave