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NOYB October 25th 04 10:17 PM

OT--Mark your calendars
 
Election 2004's "October surprise":

Event Date: Oct. 28, 2004
Event Name: "Soros Truth Squad"
Event Type: News Conference
Time: 12:00 PM
Sponsored by: National Legal and Policy Center
Event Location: Murrow Room



http://npc.press.org/index.cfm?theda...&&theyear=2004



NOYB October 25th 04 10:25 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
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Election 2004's "October surprise":

Event Date: Oct. 28, 2004
Event Name: "Soros Truth Squad"
Event Type: News Conference
Time: 12:00 PM
Sponsored by: National Legal and Policy Center
Event Location: Murrow Room



http://npc.press.org/index.cfm?theda...&&theyear=2004


More info:

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=38793



Gould 0738 October 25th 04 11:13 PM

The Republicans are out to smear somebody?

C'mon NOYB. You promised us a "surprise".

NOYB October 26th 04 01:37 AM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The Republicans are out to smear somebody?

C'mon NOYB. You promised us a "surprise".


Smearing the man won't help Bush that much (although his association to
moveon.org will), so that's not the "surprise". What's the surprise? How
about the revelation that is about to come out linking Soros (and certain
countries) to the current record prices of oil futures. How forgiving do
you think Americans will be when they find out that other countries, and
Kerry's biggest supporter are manipulating oil futures, hurting the American
economy, and costing them money in their retirement accounts and at the pump
all in the name of defeating Bush on November 2nd? *THAT's* the October
surprise. Why will it work in Bush's favor? Americans won't stand for
external forces meddling in our elections.









Harry Krause October 26th 04 01:52 AM

The October surprise is we are going to nuke North Korea.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The Republicans are out to smear somebody?

C'mon NOYB. You promised us a "surprise".




NOYB October 26th 04 03:10 AM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Smearing the man won't help Bush that much (although his association to
moveon.org will), so that's not the "surprise". What's the surprise? How
about the revelation that is about to come out linking Soros (and certain
countries) to the current record prices of oil futures. How forgiving do
you think Americans will be when they find out that other countries, and
Kerry's biggest supporter are manipulating oil futures, hurting the
American
economy, and costing them money in their retirement accounts and at the
pump
all in the name of defeating Bush on November 2nd? *THAT's* the October
surprise. Why will it work in Bush's favor? Americans won't stand for
external forces meddling in our elections.


Nitrous leak! Quick, shut off the valve ad get out to some fresh air.

Soros is single-handedly manipulating the price of oil to damage the
American
economy and make Bush look worse than he does already?


I didn't say single-handedly. He represents a group that has in excess of
$100 billion to invest. Futures options allow someone to leverage their
money without putting a lot of money up front. It's absolutely
possible...and likely. Just wait and see.




Gould 0738 October 26th 04 03:25 AM

I didn't say single-handedly. He represents a group that has in excess of
$100 billion to invest. Futures options allow someone to leverage their
money without putting a lot of money up front. It's absolutely
possible...and likely. Just wait and see.


To spend $100 billion on oil "futures", (which are highly leveraged), wouldn't
that effectively buy up most of the world's production? Gaining a monopoly on a
resource.....hmmm......sounds like a good old fashioned capitalist Republican
pastime to me. :-)

Gould 0738 October 26th 04 03:27 AM

The current oil prices are being manipulated by certain OPEC states,
notably Saudi Arabia, by oil corporations, such as EXXON, by affiliated
industries, such as Halliburton,


Doesn't the Bush family make a $million or so every time the price of oil goes
up $1 a bbl? They ought to be on their knees thanking Soros if this is true.

thunder October 26th 04 12:01 PM

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:37:43 -0400, NOYB wrote:


Smearing the man won't help Bush that much (although his association to
moveon.org will), so that's not the "surprise". What's the surprise? How
about the revelation that is about to come out linking Soros (and certain
countries) to the current record prices of oil futures. How forgiving do
you think Americans will be when they find out that other countries, and
Kerry's biggest supporter are manipulating oil futures, hurting the
American economy, and costing them money in their retirement accounts and
at the pump all in the name of defeating Bush on November 2nd? *THAT's*
the October surprise. Why will it work in Bush's favor? Americans won't
stand for external forces meddling in our elections.


LOL, even if true, it's way to complicated. 42% of this country still
believe Saddam was directly involved with 9/11 and you're going to try to
sell an oil futures conspiracy in seven days.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea...d=10006283 67

NOYB October 26th 04 05:38 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Smearing the man won't help Bush that much (although his association to
moveon.org will), so that's not the "surprise". What's the surprise?
How
about the revelation that is about to come out linking Soros (and
certain
countries) to the current record prices of oil futures. How forgiving
do
you think Americans will be when they find out that other countries, and
Kerry's biggest supporter are manipulating oil futures, hurting the
American
economy, and costing them money in their retirement accounts and at the
pump
all in the name of defeating Bush on November 2nd? *THAT's* the October
surprise. Why will it work in Bush's favor? Americans won't stand for
external forces meddling in our elections.

Nitrous leak! Quick, shut off the valve ad get out to some fresh air.

Soros is single-handedly manipulating the price of oil to damage the
American
economy and make Bush look worse than he does already?


I didn't say single-handedly. He represents a group that has in excess
of
$100 billion to invest. Futures options allow someone to leverage their
money without putting a lot of money up front. It's absolutely
possible...and likely. Just wait and see.




The current oil prices are being manipulated by certain OPEC states,
notably Saudi Arabia,




You don't know what you're talking about. Saudi Arabia has greatly
increased supply to far outpace increased demand. The current prices aren't
a supply and demand issue. There's plenty of supply. What's driving the
prices is speculative purchasing of future oil contracts by some anti-Bush
folks.

If you were smart, you'd short oil futures for the weeks after the election.
No matter who wins, they'll come crashing down...and Soros and company will
walk away that much richer.






NOYB October 26th 04 05:41 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The current oil prices are being manipulated by certain OPEC states,
notably Saudi Arabia, by oil corporations, such as EXXON, by affiliated
industries, such as Halliburton,


Doesn't the Bush family make a $million or so every time the price of oil
goes
up $1 a bbl? They ought to be on their knees thanking Soros if this is
true.


Baloney. If a foreign entitity is purposely manipulating the price of oil
in order to influence our elections, then you, as an American, should be
absolutely outraged. That's economic terrorism.





NOYB October 26th 04 05:45 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I didn't say single-handedly. He represents a group that has in excess
of
$100 billion to invest. Futures options allow someone to leverage their
money without putting a lot of money up front. It's absolutely
possible...and likely. Just wait and see.


To spend $100 billion on oil "futures", (which are highly leveraged),
wouldn't
that effectively buy up most of the world's production? Gaining a monopoly
on a
resource


They'll never take delivery of the oil. They'll dump the
contracts...initially at a huge profit. But when prices come crashing down,
they'll be stuck holding a bunch of contracts that will never be exercised.
That's the price guys like Soros are willing to pay in order to defeat
Bush. And you thought 527 spending was bad!





NOYB October 26th 04 05:50 PM


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:37:43 -0400, NOYB wrote:


Smearing the man won't help Bush that much (although his association to
moveon.org will), so that's not the "surprise". What's the surprise?
How
about the revelation that is about to come out linking Soros (and certain
countries) to the current record prices of oil futures. How forgiving do
you think Americans will be when they find out that other countries, and
Kerry's biggest supporter are manipulating oil futures, hurting the
American economy, and costing them money in their retirement accounts and
at the pump all in the name of defeating Bush on November 2nd? *THAT's*
the October surprise. Why will it work in Bush's favor? Americans won't
stand for external forces meddling in our elections.


LOL, even if true, it's way to complicated. 42% of this country still
believe Saddam was directly involved with 9/11 and you're going to try to
sell an oil futures conspiracy in seven days.


You don't need to sell it. People watch the news and know that
*speculation* is what's driving oil prices so high. Right now they are
looking for somebody to blame. They'll conveniently be given Kerry's
biggest contributor and notorious speculator as the bad guy...just days
before the election. That's good for a couple of point bump for Bush.



Gould 0738 October 26th 04 06:30 PM

Baloney. If a foreign entitity is purposely manipulating the price of oil
in order to influence our elections, then you, as an American, should be
absolutely outraged. That's economic terrorism.


Is George Soros a foreign entity?

Last time an entity, (Enron), manipulated the price of energy (electricity),
that entity was invited to serve as a special consultant to VP Cheney as he
planned the Bush Ad's energy policy. Suppose that Bush, if he wins next week,
will invite Soros and his cartel to do the same? :-)

NOYB October 26th 04 07:28 PM


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:38:55 +0000, NOYB wrote:


You don't know what you're talking about. Saudi Arabia has greatly
increased supply to far outpace increased demand. The current prices
aren't a supply and demand issue. There's plenty of supply. What's
driving the prices is speculative purchasing of future oil contracts by
some anti-Bush folks.

If you were smart, you'd short oil futures for the weeks after the
election. No matter who wins, they'll come crashing down...and Soros and
company will walk away that much richer.


Now I'm confused. If Soros is buying oil futures driving up the price,
how is he going to make money when the price crashes?


He won't. Although he'll make money *initially* when he starts dumping his
contracts after the election, when prices finally crash, he'll be stuck with
a bunch of contracts that he'll never exercise. That's the price he has
decided to pay in order to defeat Bush.


"Asked whether he would trade his $7 billion fortune to unseat Bush, Soros
opened his mouth. Then he closed it. The proposal hung in the air: Would he
become poor to beat Bush? He said, "If someone guaranteed it."



Brian O'Neil October 26th 04 08:14 PM

How
about the revelation that is about to come out linking Soros (and certain
countries) to the current record prices of oil futures. How forgiving do


High oil prices are the price we pay for having Iran
(http://www.iranian.ws) and Saudia Arabia (
http://www.whoisbush.com/oil.html ) in the coalition fighting against
terror.

Calif Bill October 27th 04 01:08 AM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Baloney. If a foreign entitity is purposely manipulating the price of

oil
in order to influence our elections, then you, as an American, should be
absolutely outraged. That's economic terrorism.


Is George Soros a foreign entity?

Last time an entity, (Enron), manipulated the price of energy

(electricity),
that entity was invited to serve as a special consultant to VP Cheney as

he
planned the Bush Ad's energy policy. Suppose that Bush, if he wins next

week,
will invite Soros and his cartel to do the same? :-)


Enron was a shining star at that time. Was a good Clinton administration
friend also.



NOYB October 27th 04 09:26 PM

Mo


National Legal and Policy Center to Announce FEC Complaint Against George
Soros at Press Conference Oct. 28

1 hour, 43 minutes ago





To: Assignment Desk and Daybook Editor


Contact: John Carlisle, 703-237-1970 or 703-798-0655 (cell), Peter Flaherty,
703-864-7902, both of the National Legal and Policy Center, Web:
http://www.nlpc.org


News Advisory:


The National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC) will hold a 12 p.m. Press
conference on Thursday, Oct. 28 at the National Press Club to announce that
it is filing a formal Complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC).
The Complaint is related to Soros' speaking tour and related activities
during October, but details of the Complaint are embargoed until the press
conference.


Soros is speaking at the National Press Club at 12:30 p.m. to Conclude his
one-month tour denouncing President Bush. He has spent or pledged $25
million toward the defeat of Bush, including 2-page newspaper ads and
mailings in swing states.


NLPC's press conference will be held in the Murrow room.


NLPC promotes ethics in public life through research, education and legal
action. The group sponsors the Government Integrity Project, and is the
organizer of the Soros Truth Squad.




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