OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

According to the latest CBS/NY Times poll (I can't believe I'm citing the
most liberally biased news agencies here), the Republican Party is
overwhelmingly seen as better able to deal with terrorism and handle the
rebuilding of Iraq.

Which party is better able to:
Handle rebuilding of Iraq: Republicans 48%...Dems 25%
Make right decisions on terrorism: Republicans 50%..Dems22%

Interestingly, the economy is a losing issue as well.

Ensure a strong economy: Republicans 42%...Dems 40%

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

According to the latest CBS/NY Times poll (I can't believe I'm citing the
most liberally biased news agencies here),

I can. You'd quote Osama Bin Ladin if he said something positive about GWB and
the Republican Party. :-)

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

The point behind quoting the CBS/NY Times poll is that liberals can't jump
up and say that the source is biased. If I quoted a Fox poll (which, by the
way, has Bush's favorability numbers even higher), you guys would scream
bloody murder.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
According to the latest CBS/NY Times poll (I can't believe I'm citing the
most liberally biased news agencies here),

I can. You'd quote Osama Bin Ladin if he said something positive about
GWB and
the Republican Party. :-)

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

The point behind quoting the CBS/NY Times poll is that liberals can't jump
up and say that the source is biased. If I quoted a Fox poll (which, by the
way, has Bush's favorability numbers even higher),

It doesn't bother you that Fox reports different numbers than CBS and the NY
Times?

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Statistically, they're not significantly different. The last Fox News
favorability rating was in mid-November and had Bush at 55%. CBS/NY Times
had him at 49% in that same period. Zogby had him at 55%. So Fox and Zogby
agreed...and CBS/NY Times had him lower.

Does it bother me that CBS/NY Times polls always seem to report numbers
different from everybody else? Of course.

However, the *current* CBS/NY Times poll has him at a 58% favorability
rating.





"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The point behind quoting the CBS/NY Times poll is that liberals can't
jump
up and say that the source is biased. If I quoted a Fox poll (which, by
the
way, has Bush's favorability numbers even higher),

It doesn't bother you that Fox reports different numbers than CBS and the
NY
Times?

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

NOYB wrote:

However, the *current* CBS/NY Times poll has him at a 58% favorability
rating.

Does being part of the majority make you feel better about being a
fascist, or does being part of the majority give you some sort of
security in your bigotry and ignorance?

If you really believe the way you do, why do you so often need to post
polls to your position? Are you ashamed to speak without a mob at your
back? Joining the mob does not make your position any less shameful. It
is still anti-American by any measure.

All your polls show is that the majority have little shame or knowledge
of history.

Rick

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

Or is it that CBS/NY Times poll is different than what Fox reports. It just
depends on the spin you put on it doesn't it.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The point behind quoting the CBS/NY Times poll is that liberals can't
jump
up and say that the source is biased. If I quoted a Fox poll (which, by
the
way, has Bush's favorability numbers even higher),

It doesn't bother you that Fox reports different numbers than CBS and the
NY
Times?

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

You seem to rationalize a lot. Read your own post and figure it out.


"Rick" wrote in message
nk.net...
NOYB wrote:

However, the *current* CBS/NY Times poll has him at a 58% favorability
rating.

Does being part of the majority make you feel better about being a
fascist, or does being part of the majority give you some sort of
security in your bigotry and ignorance?

If you really believe the way you do, why do you so often need to post
polls to your position? Are you ashamed to speak without a mob at your
back? Joining the mob does not make your position any less shameful. It
is still anti-American by any measure.

All your polls show is that the majority have little shame or knowledge
of history.

Rick

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"Rick" wrote in message
nk.net...
NOYB wrote:

However, the *current* CBS/NY Times poll has him at a 58% favorability
rating.

Does being part of the majority make you feel better about being a
fascist, or does being part of the majority give you some sort of
security in your bigotry and ignorance?

LOL




If you really believe the way you do, why do you so often need to post
polls to your position?

Just trying to issue a reality check to those few remaining liberals who
think that their views are "mainstream".



Are you ashamed to speak without a mob at your
back? Joining the mob does not make your position any less shameful. It
is still anti-American by any measure.

All your polls show is that the majority have little shame or knowledge
of history.

Actually, polls show how little effect your, and your ilk's, griping has had
on public opinion.

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

NOYB wrote:

Just trying to issue a reality check to those few remaining liberals who
think that their views are "mainstream".

For most of world history, the views of those who opposed tyranny and
evil were never "mainstream." We who believe Bush and his policies are
fundamentally in opposition to traditional American standards of social
and political behavior are unfortunately not in the majority. Those who
oppose most dictators are rarely in the majority. If we were our laws
and freedoms would not be under assault by the political extremists in
power today.

Actually, polls show how little effect your, and your ilk's, griping has had
on public opinion.

Public opinion is not a measure of right or wrong. History is rife with
examples of public opinion in favor of what we now label as crimes
against humanity, war crimes, and hideously perverted social experiments
gone horribly wrong.

The sooner you and your goose-stepping herdmates join your progenitors
in history's trash bin the better the world will be.

Rick

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The legal system in this country is not for the weakhearted, tooth-boy.
Either the laws apply to everyone, or they apply to nobody. Sometimes you
have to have some balls and let the bad guys go through the system just like
everyone else. It may take longer than you'd like to bring them to justice,
but they'll get there eventually. Remember: It was tax evasion that nailed
Al Capone.

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"Rick" wrote in message
nk.net...
NOYB wrote:

Just trying to issue a reality check to those few remaining liberals who
think that their views are "mainstream".

For most of world history, the views of those who opposed tyranny and
evil were never "mainstream." We who believe Bush and his policies are
fundamentally in opposition to traditional American standards of social
and political behavior are unfortunately not in the majority. Those who
oppose most dictators are rarely in the majority.

Your self-righteousness is sickening. You're in the minority not because
you're right...but because you're wrong. The left's obsession with hating
Bush has destroyed its ability to apply logic and reason to real world
decisions. Today's liberal knows how to attack other people's policies, but
put forth zero ideas themselves. Would you like an example? Find one
*solution* to today's problems in any of *your* posts. You throw around
words like "tyranny" and "evil", and phrases like "fundamentally in
opposition to traditional American standards of social and political
behavior", yet you've never offered your own opinion on how to deal with
this nation's threats.

War was declared not on this nation, but on our culture and way of life.
There is a movement in the fundamentalist Islamic world to rid the world of
non-believers. We chose to fight back this time.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...


War was declared not on this nation, but on our culture and way of life.
There is a movement in the fundamentalist Islamic world to rid the world
of
non-believers. We chose to fight back this time.

Two wars. The second was declared by the justice department.

This is a nation of laws, tooth-boy. There are no exceptions for the
convenience of fools.

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

Doug Kanter wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...


War was declared not on this nation, but on our culture and way of life.
There is a movement in the fundamentalist Islamic world to rid the world
of
non-believers. We chose to fight back this time.

Two wars. The second was declared by the justice department.

This is a nation of laws, tooth-boy. There are no exceptions for the
convenience of fools.




Speaking of laws, the Bush-shippers were handled a triple whammy this week:

1. Ashcroft broke the law in his losing Senate campaign against a dead man.

2. The prisoners in Cuba must be given access to lawyers.

3. The U.S. citizen being held as a terrorist must be given his
Constitutional rights.



The Bush-shippers, of course, think the Constitution is only there to
protect corporate interests.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

2. The prisoners in Cuba must be given access to lawyers.

3. The U.S. citizen being held as a terrorist must be given his
Constitutional rights.

I sure feel safer knowing that liberal attornies were able to get those two
cases decided in their favor...*for now*.

The US Supreme Court hasn't ruled on either, however. The second judgement
came out of a three-judge panel from the 2nd US Circuit Court of
Appeals...and the White House will seek an immediate stay...and ask the full
2nd Circuit Court to hear the case. Or, they could make an immediate appeal
to the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court has already agreed to hear the Guantanamo Bay issue.

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
The legal system in this country is not for the weakhearted, tooth-boy.
Either the laws apply to everyone, or they apply to nobody. Sometimes you
have to have some balls and let the bad guys go through the system just
like
everyone else. It may take longer than you'd like to bring them to
justice,
but they'll get there eventually. Remember: It was tax evasion that nailed
Al Capone.

Capone would have gotten acquitted in 2 minutes under today's liberal
judges.

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

NOYB wrote:

Capone would have gotten acquitted in 2 minutes under today's liberal
judges.

And less damage would have been done to the country than Bush and
Ashcroft have done already.

Looks like the courts have finally weighed in on the side of the Bill of
Rights and the Constitution today though, smacked the Reichshouse right
between the columns.

You extremists always lose in the end, NOYB. Unfortunately you destroy
so much before you finally pack it in. Get thee to a library history
section, you will see your past and your future.

Rick

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
Which party is most attuned to helping the boating community?

In the Senate, there are 7 Democrats and 3 Republicans who are part of the
Congressional Boating Caucus.

In the House, there are 35 Democrats and 76 Republicans who are part of the
Boating Caucus.

So the answer to Gene's question...
Republicans are most attuned to helping the boating community...by almost a
2 to 1 majority.

http://www.nmma.org/government/federal/bc.asp?bhcp=1

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
Which party is most attuned to helping the boating community?

Want your representatives to be more attuned to help the boating community?
Send them this letter:

Play an active role in molding the laws that will have a direct impact on
the people who support you. Join the Congressional Boating Caucus!

One in every three Americans participates in boating, which means a great
number of your constituents are taking to the waterways, and are affected by
legislative issues surrounding recreational boating.

By way of background, the Boating Caucus consists of an informal, bipartisan
group of members of Congress concerned with issues affecting boating,
recreation and the marine industry. There are no dues or scheduling
requirements and in order to participate.

Among Boating Caucus goals a

- Supporting protection of the environment.

- Promoting recreational fishing, and uniformity of standards.

- Protecting boater access to public waterways.

- Ensuring sound science-based regulatory policies.

- Opposing the imposition of new taxes on marine-related goods and
manufacturing.

- Endorsing strict enforcement of laws prohibiting dangerous navigation,
including reckless and intoxicated operation.

The recreational marine industry provides jobs to over 500,000 skilled
employees, serving over 78 million Americans who participate in recreational
boating. In the United States alone, boaters spend nearly $25 billion
annually on boats and related products and services.

Organizations, including the National Marine Manufacturers Association
(NMMA), continue to proactively work to ensure that these workers and
recreational enthusiasts enjoy our natural resources responsibly and are
heard by their elected officials.

To join the Congressional Boating Caucus, please contact Christine Pollack
in Rep. Clay Shaw's office at 5-3026 or Wayne Weidie with Rep. Gene Taylor
at 5-5772.

I hope you will support your local businesses by joining the Congressional
Boating Caucus!

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"Rick" wrote in message
link.net...
NOYB wrote:

Capone would have gotten acquitted in 2 minutes under today's liberal
judges.

And less damage would have been done to the country than Bush and
Ashcroft have done already.

Looks like the courts have finally weighed in on the side of the Bill of
Rights and the Constitution today though, smacked the Reichshouse right
between the columns.

*TWO* members of the 2nd US Court of Appeals launched an initial volley
today. It won't stand.


You extremists always lose in the end, NOYB.

We'll see. The Padilla issue is far from over. The White House will likely
get an emergency stay granted. Then either: (a) the full 2nd USCOA will
hear the matter...instead of just 3 of its members, or (b) the US Supreme
Court will hear it. Either way, the liberals will lose on this one once it
all plays out. Just watch!

OT--Still wanna make Iraq and the War on terrorism an issue?
 

Rick wrote:

NOYB wrote:

Capone would have gotten acquitted in 2 minutes under today's liberal
judges.

And less damage would have been done to the country than Bush and
Ashcroft have done already.

Looks like the courts have finally weighed in on the side of the Bill of
Rights and the Constitution today though, smacked the Reichshouse right
between the columns.

You extremists always lose in the end, NOYB. Unfortunately you destroy
so much before you finally pack it in. Get thee to a library history
section, you will see your past and your future.

Rick

In terms of criminality and terror, Capone was a piker compared to Bush.

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stupid, your on the wrong list! DER!