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TC October 13th 04 07:26 PM

Sea Sickness
 
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?

otnmbrd October 13th 04 07:51 PM



TC wrote:
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


Yes and no. A good deal depends on your tendency towards motion
sickness. If you are not normally prone to motion sickness, once you
begin to sense the motions experienced on a boat you may encounter the
problem fewer times or not at all.
If, however, you ARE prone to motion sickness, the best you can hope for
is that one of the various remedies will work for you and that you can
either deal with it and get over it or pick your times when you go boating.
I have been prone to all forms of motion sickness all my life and have
lived to deal with it (hell of a profession to chose for someone who
gets seasick) and notice that as I've gotten older and number, I am far
less prone than I was in my youth.

otn

Gould 0738 October 13th 04 07:51 PM

There are three types of boaters.

Those who admit to occasional sea sickness, those who never venture off a mill
pond, and those who tend to "forget" the last time they were seasick.

Some people are more prone than others.

General cause is a mismatch between the
sensations your body is feeling and the visual input to your brain. If it's
reasonably rough and rocky and I try to read, for instance, I can begin to feel
some effects.

For many people, keeping an eye on the horizon and getting plenty of fresh air
are
important. Ginger, either in a root form or even in ginger ale tends to help
many folks. Others will require Dramamine or other medication, and some small
percentage of people probably just don't belong on lumpy water at all.

Obviously, the rougher it is the tougher time your body will have reconciling
what it is feeling with what it is seeing and you will be at greater risk.

Eisboch October 13th 04 07:56 PM

TC wrote:
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?



For some, yes. For others - find another hobby.

At the beginning of every boating season, I get a little bit "queasy",
but it quickly goes away. I've also noticed that if we are in heavy
seas and I have someone else driving the boat I can feel a little strange.

My brother and one of my sons never get seasick. My other son gets sick
just looking at the boat from the dock.

Dramamine (sp?) works for some - as does patches. If you are a crew
member (not the boat captain), a few beers will usually calm you down.


Eisboch

Tony Van October 13th 04 08:18 PM

Sea Sickness - first you think your gonna die, then your afraid your not.

1. Eat some ginger snap cookies before going out

2. Keep the horizon or some other stable object in your vision (like a
cloud, shore feature, etc).

3. Don't ever let your head get lower then your stomach (except when
heaving)





Doug Kanter October 13th 04 08:22 PM


"TC" wrote in message
.. .
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


After 40 years of boating, I still get queasy under certain circumstances.

1) Trying to tie fishing knots while the boat is being thrashed about by
turbulence. No way to focus on the horizon until the knot's tied, which can
take quite a while at dusk with ancient eyes. My significant other gets the
same way when trying to do crossword puzzles in a rocking boat. It's silly,
but she won't listen.

2) Exposure to fumes, especially diesel. This is why I won't spend money on
charter fishing trips.

3) Going out on an empty stomach. I always make sure to eat something
including bread or bagels.

Gould mentioned ginger, which works great for me. Keep some name-brand
ginger snap cookies on the boat in ziplock bags. Nabisco is good, but if you
can find Salerno (brown bag, not a box), they're the best. They contain more
real ginger. Works best if you eat a few BEFORE you're sick. There's also a
type of asian ginger candy you can find in some supermarkets. They're about
the size & consistency of Tootsie Rolls and come in cellophane bags,
individually wrapped. They're probably the most concentrated type of ginger
you can get, short of eating the actual root. Most people I've given them to
have found them to be palatable. Check the import section.



Bowgus October 13th 04 08:25 PM

And I did see down at the chandelry, wrist bands that are reputed to work
.... here's what they look like courtesy of google search ...
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/landfallnav/-sms01.html

"TC" wrote in message
.. .
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?




Doug Kanter October 13th 04 08:35 PM

By the way, what's this got to do with politics?



Eisboch October 13th 04 08:52 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:
By the way, what's this got to do with politics?



LOL

Eisboch

Short Wave Sportfishing October 13th 04 10:04 PM

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:35:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

By the way, what's this got to do with politics?


~~ snicker ~~

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Short Wave Sportfishing October 13th 04 10:07 PM

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:26:06 GMT, "TC" wrote:

Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


http://www.goddesscruise.com/SeaSick.htm

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Marshall Banana October 13th 04 10:42 PM

Also Sprach Doug Kanter :

Gould mentioned ginger, which works great for me. Keep some name-brand
ginger snap cookies on the boat in ziplock bags. Nabisco is good, but if you
can find Salerno (brown bag, not a box), they're the best. They contain more
real ginger. Works best if you eat a few BEFORE you're sick. There's also a
type of asian ginger candy you can find in some supermarkets. They're about
the size & consistency of Tootsie Rolls and come in cellophane bags,
individually wrapped. They're probably the most concentrated type of ginger
you can get, short of eating the actual root. Most people I've given them to
have found them to be palatable. Check the import section.


There's another great ginger source, sugared ginger. It's basically
slices of ginger root, coated with crystalized ginger, and
dehydrated. Spicy and sweet and yummy. Again, any asian market will have
it, along with many gourmet type grocery stores. I can't vouch for it's
effectiveness against seasickness, becasue I'm lucky enough to not be
affected by it.

Dan

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All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.

MikeG October 13th 04 11:24 PM

In article , no-
says...
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?

It depends on the person.

I spent the better part of three years at sea with a buddy who lived on
nothing but soda crackers and milk for the three years.

My self, it usually only amounted to a headache the first day out.

Well, there was that one time coming out of Toulon after being a quest
at the bar inhabited by some deck apes off the French carrier Fosch. I'm
not sure if it was the rum or the screaming storm we got hit with on the
way out of port. Which ever or both I had hit the point where, as
someone else mentioned, I was afraid I wasn't going to die.


--
MikeG
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www.heirloom-woods.net


otnmbrd October 13th 04 11:35 PM



Bowgus wrote:
And I did see down at the chandelry, wrist bands that are reputed to work
... here's what they look like courtesy of google search ...
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/landfallnav/-sms01.html

"TC" wrote in message
.. .

Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


EG Didn't do a thing for me

otn

Short Wave Sportfishing October 13th 04 11:38 PM

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:24:25 -0400, MikeG
wrote:

In article , no-
says...
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?

It depends on the person.

I spent the better part of three years at sea with a buddy who lived on
nothing but soda crackers and milk for the three years.

My self, it usually only amounted to a headache the first day out.

Well, there was that one time coming out of Toulon after being a quest
at the bar inhabited by some deck apes off the French carrier Fosch. I'm
not sure if it was the rum or the screaming storm we got hit with on the
way out of port. Which ever or both I had hit the point where, as
someone else mentioned, I was afraid I wasn't going to die.


I have never gotten sea sick per se, but on my 10th free fall jump
from 10,000', I spun and lost my horizon. I popped my chute

I made it to the ground ok, but it was close. What ever was left over
from breakfast was on the ground. :)

And naturally the ****ant Jump Master rode me about it for about a
week.

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004


Bowgus October 14th 04 01:51 AM

Maybe if it was dipped in ginger and worn around the neck?

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
nk.net...


Bowgus wrote:
And I did see down at the chandelry, wrist bands that are reputed to

work
... here's what they look like courtesy of google search ...
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/landfallnav/-sms01.html

"TC" wrote in message
.. .

Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


EG Didn't do a thing for me

otn




Karl Denninger October 14th 04 03:02 AM


In article et,
otnmbrd wrote:




TC wrote:
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


Yes and no. A good deal depends on your tendency towards motion
sickness. If you are not normally prone to motion sickness, once you
begin to sense the motions experienced on a boat you may encounter the
problem fewer times or not at all.
If, however, you ARE prone to motion sickness, the best you can hope for
is that one of the various remedies will work for you and that you can
either deal with it and get over it or pick your times when you go boating.
I have been prone to all forms of motion sickness all my life and have
lived to deal with it (hell of a profession to chose for someone who
gets seasick) and notice that as I've gotten older and number, I am far
less prone than I was in my youth.

otn


I keep most of the common remedies on my boat.

The only one I've found that works on better than 90% of the people who get
sick is the "Relief Band" - the electric "watch-style" one.

The other "remedies" have all been hit-or-miss, and the drugs (e.g.
Dramamine) will make you SICKER if you take them when you're already queasy.

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Tom October 14th 04 02:13 PM

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:35:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

By the way, what's this got to do with politics?

I'm waiting for Harry to jump in and declare that George Bush is
responsible for sea sickness and his lack of leadership is the reason
we don't have a cure. Unfortunately, I tend to get queasy in my
recliner when I see Kerry.


Tom October 14th 04 02:15 PM

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:26:06 GMT, "TC" wrote:

Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


Dill pickles can help settle your stomach after symptoms "arise".

Don ßćiley October 14th 04 02:44 PM


"TC" wrote in message
.. .
Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


I have to take it in small doses and work up to heavy seas...

This is something I have to get used to at the start of every
boating season. By November, I don't even think about it
but the process will begin all over again in May. My ears/stomach
somehow *forget* how to deal with it over the winter.

db




Doug Kanter October 14th 04 03:02 PM


"Tom" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:35:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

By the way, what's this got to do with politics?

I'm waiting for Harry to jump in and declare that George Bush is
responsible for sea sickness and his lack of leadership is the reason
we don't have a cure. Unfortunately, I tend to get queasy in my
recliner when I see Kerry.


Wait till your president sends the youngsters in your family to work as
badly paid mercenaries for the petroleum industry. You'll experience
queasiness like never before, especially when they come home in a box.



Short Wave Sportfishing October 14th 04 03:28 PM

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:15:20 GMT, (Tom) wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:26:06 GMT, "TC" wrote:

Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


Dill pickles can help settle your stomach after symptoms "arise".


I'm willing to believe almost anything on this subject, but dill
pickles?

I don't know about that one... :)

The one thing you wouldn't want to introduce is more acid to upset a
stomach.

I'd have to have some definitive evidence before I tried it.

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Doug Kanter October 14th 04 03:37 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:15:20 GMT, (Tom) wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:26:06 GMT, "TC" wrote:

Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?


Dill pickles can help settle your stomach after symptoms "arise".


I'm willing to believe almost anything on this subject, but dill
pickles?

I don't know about that one... :)

The one thing you wouldn't want to introduce is more acid to upset a
stomach.

I'd have to have some definitive evidence before I tried it.


Actually, Tom, it's true. Hot salsa and chips are also helpful, followed by
handfuls of Oreos and a couple of cans of grape soda. Imagine the color
combination. :-)



Short Wave Sportfishing October 14th 04 04:01 PM

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:37:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:15:20 GMT, (Tom) wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:26:06 GMT, "TC" wrote:

Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?

Dill pickles can help settle your stomach after symptoms "arise".


I'm willing to believe almost anything on this subject, but dill
pickles?

I don't know about that one... :)

The one thing you wouldn't want to introduce is more acid to upset a
stomach.

I'd have to have some definitive evidence before I tried it.


Actually, Tom, it's true. Hot salsa and chips are also helpful, followed by
handfuls of Oreos and a couple of cans of grape soda. Imagine the color
combination. :-)


ROTFL!!!!

I have a confession - I love salsa, in particular Newmans/Imus Ranch
brands salsa and I love chips - I'm addicted to them.

It sure would be an "explosion" of color though wouldn't it?

Later,

Tom
-----------
"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653

Doug Kanter October 14th 04 04:43 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:37:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in

message
.. .
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:15:20 GMT, (Tom) wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:26:06 GMT, "TC" wrote:

Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating?
What can be done about it?

Dill pickles can help settle your stomach after symptoms "arise".

I'm willing to believe almost anything on this subject, but dill
pickles?

I don't know about that one... :)

The one thing you wouldn't want to introduce is more acid to upset a
stomach.

I'd have to have some definitive evidence before I tried it.


Actually, Tom, it's true. Hot salsa and chips are also helpful, followed

by
handfuls of Oreos and a couple of cans of grape soda. Imagine the color
combination. :-)


ROTFL!!!!

I have a confession - I love salsa, in particular Newmans/Imus Ranch
brands salsa and I love chips - I'm addicted to them.

It sure would be an "explosion" of color though wouldn't it?


I have an issue with Fritos. I've been through counseling and meds, but
nothing helps. Now, I just don't go down that aisle at the supermarket
unless someone's with me to keep me under control.



Wayne.B October 14th 04 04:46 PM

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:43:46 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

I've never been seaeick on a boat in my life...but...
...Between the fumes and
the heat, I ended up adding my breakfast to the chum line.


===================================

Trust me, if you added your breakfast to the chum line, you've been
sea sick. The smell of diesel fuel or diesel exhaust can get to just
about anyone under the right circumstances.

Bilgeman October 15th 04 02:48 AM

TC asks:

-Is this something that eventually goes away after repeated boating? What can
be done about it?-

Bilge- Gut it out...focus on the horizon...fresh air. Bad news for you if you
sail in the engine room.
I'm not very prone, but if I really try, I can eventually be found wearing an
empty paint can around my neck.

Lots of Japanese Suntory Scotch and unfamiliar Japanese hors d' ouevres the
night before coupled with a rough day in the Formosa Strait'll do ya right.

Keep heaving until ya feel something round and hairy coming up...swallow that
back down, it's the opposite end of your digestive system.

And, if you're with someone who looks green around the gills, offer 'em a
greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray with some warm flat beer to wash
it down.

Laughter really IS the best medicine.

BTW, diesel fuel and exhaust is like Chanel No. 5 compared to fragrant Bunker
C and it's stack gas...mmmmmmm, sulfur!

Chin-chin;


Mutiny is a Management Tool
Select Your Tattoo while Sober

Tom October 15th 04 03:10 PM


Wait till your president sends the youngsters in your family to work as
badly paid mercenaries for the petroleum industry. You'll experience
queasiness like never before, especially when they come home in a box.

Fortunately, that will never happen as my oldest son has completed his
service in the National Guard and my youngest has no desire to join
but my heart goes out to those who have experienced that. On the other
hand, I disagree with your spin on the reason for the war - just
another distortion of the facts. Everyone, including your boy Kerry
felt Saddam was a threat and needed to be removed - and there is a lot
of documentation for this.

Tom October 15th 04 03:22 PM


I don't know about that one... :)

The one thing you wouldn't want to introduce is more acid to upset a
stomach.

I'd have to have some definitive evidence before I tried it.

I used to fish with my doctor who had been in the Navy and did
research on air and sea sickness. One day while fishing with a
tailwind the exhaust got the best of me and I decided to chum to
improve our odds - only time I've ever been sick on a boat. In the
midst of my chumming he insisted I drive the boat which was not tops
on my priority list at the moment. Once I was driving the boat he dug
around in the ice chest and handed me a dill pickle. I thought he'd
lost his mind but decided to follow doctors orders and the relief was
immediate. He said in their studies they found dill pickles to be one
of the best available quick relief remedies. I've always carried them
since for passengers and they've always worked. Another interesting
item from his studies was that most often, motion sickness was caused
by fear - usually deep seated sub conscious. Even though pilots loved
to fly there was often a fear of crashing in the back of their minds
which triggered air sickness for example. Don't know if those studies
held up over time (this was 30 years ago) but it sure explains those
who start tossing their cookies as soon as they lose sight of land.
Give the pickles a try if you or a passenger ever needs them - you
might be surprised.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 16th 04 11:22 AM

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:10:10 GMT, (Tom)
wrote:


Wait till your president sends the youngsters in your family to work as
badly paid mercenaries for the petroleum industry. You'll experience
queasiness like never before, especially when they come home in a box.

Fortunately, that will never happen as my oldest son has completed his
service in the National Guard and my youngest has no desire to join
but my heart goes out to those who have experienced that. On the other
hand, I disagree with your spin on the reason for the war - just
another distortion of the facts. Everyone, including your boy Kerry
felt Saddam was a threat and needed to be removed - and there is a lot
of documentation for this.


At least this thread lasted for a while before.......

Ah, never mind.

Later,

Tom
-----------
"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653


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