Winterizing 5.0L Merc
 

I have an 03 Chaparral with a 5.0L Merc (Fuel Injected). I would like to
save the cost of having a marina do the winterizing. Can someone explain
exactly what I need to do? I have never winterized an I/O. I had outboards
that I did on my own for years.

Thanks in advance
Mark

Mark K wrote:
I have an 03 Chaparral with a 5.0L Merc (Fuel Injected). I would like to
save the cost of having a marina do the winterizing. Can someone explain
exactly what I need to do? I have never winterized an I/O. I had outboards
that I did on my own for years.

Thanks in advance
Mark



In my opinion that's too new of a boat to learn on if you have never
winterized an I/O. If you screw up and leave some water in the block
you may regret it (assuming you are in a cold winter climate).

I would hire an experienced mechanic and watch everything that he does.
Next year you will be ready to do it yourself.

BTW, (to the group) Whatever happened to Skipper? Usually he is here at
this time of year promoting his bucket method of winterization.

Eisboch

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:48:07 GMT, "Mark K"
wrote:

I have an 03 Chaparral with a 5.0L Merc (Fuel Injected). I would like to
save the cost of having a marina do the winterizing. Can someone explain
exactly what I need to do? I have never winterized an I/O. I had outboards
that I did on my own for years.

I agree with Eisboch. This is way too new to use as a learning
exercise. When you have your boat winterized, ask to watch the
mechanic and ask questions. It's not hard to do, but if it's not done
right, then you are screwed.

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

Eisboch wrote:
Mark K wrote:
I have an 03 Chaparral with a 5.0L Merc (Fuel Injected). I would like to
save the cost of having a marina do the winterizing. Can someone explain
exactly what I need to do? I have never winterized an I/O. I had outboards
that I did on my own for years.

Thanks in advance
Mark



In my opinion that's too new of a boat to learn on if you have never
winterized an I/O. If you screw up and leave some water in the block
you may regret it (assuming you are in a cold winter climate).

I would hire an experienced mechanic and watch everything that he does.
Next year you will be ready to do it yourself.

I agree. BOAT/US has some info on winterizing, though:

http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/winter/default.asp


BTW, (to the group) Whatever happened to Skipper? Usually he is here at
this time of year promoting his bucket method of winterization.

Eisboch

Your choice:

1. Skipper slid down a 50-foot razor blade into a vat of boiling
sulphuric acid.

2. Skipper's blood pressure got so high in this newsgroup, his doctor
told him to take up latch-hooking.

3. Skipper sold his Bayliner, as he claimed he was about to do, and
moved on.

4. Skipper had a serious stroke but still posts here as a right-winger
under a new handle that lets him get away with being even snarlier than
he was as Skipper.


I actually miss the old fart. He was more clever than most of the
righties who post here these days and once in a while - not often -
would post something that was well-written. The crop of replacement
righties are barely semi-literate.

Harry Krause wrote:


I actually miss the old fart. He was more clever than most of the
righties who post here these days and once in a while - not often -
would post something that was well-written. The crop of replacement
righties are barely semi-literate.




He was definitely good for a few yuks.

Eisboch

Since you have done outboards, the only real difference is to drain the
water from the block and change the engine oil.

1. Put fuel stabilizer in the fuel tank.
2. Crank engine on hose to warm it up and distribute fuel stabilizer.
3. Replace engine oil and filter
4. Replace outdrive oil
5. Remove drain plugs on each side of the block and on each side on the
exhaust manifolds. Make sure you get all 4 or you will have water left.
The exhaust ones are located right under the front edge of the manifold at
the engine block. The block ones are down on the side of the engine.
5. Remove hoses and drain.
6. Pour some anti-freeze down thru the water pump until it starts to run
out of the block.
7. Lower outdrive all the way down so it will not trap water.
8. Disconnect battery and make sure it is fully charged.
9. Come about January I take a charger and put on the battery just to top
it back off.

When you get ready to use it again.
1. Install hoses and drain plugs on engine
2. Charge battery
3. Connect battery
4. Crank on hose.

That is all I do. Some will add oil to the cylinders by removing the plugs.
I never fool with that myself.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"Mark K" wrote in message
ink.net...
I have an 03 Chaparral with a 5.0L Merc (Fuel Injected). I would like to
save the cost of having a marina do the winterizing. Can someone explain
exactly what I need to do? I have never winterized an I/O. I had
outboards
that I did on my own for years.

Thanks in advance
Mark

I'm inclined to agree with the other posters for the same reason, even
though it isn't rocket science. Better to see someone who knows what
to do and take it from there.

Now OT. Are all Righties scumbags? I've always considered myself on
the right, but sure hate the idea that you guys would consider me your
enemy. Is that just the way it is?

Best regards.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 05:09:58 -0400, Eisboch
wrote:

BTW, (to the group) Whatever happened to Skipper? Usually he is here at
this time of year promoting his bucket method of winterization.

=================================================

Skipper appears to have capsized his prairie schooner on the shoals of
life or was perhaps pitch poled by the amber waves of grain. He was
never really the same after that trip to Alaska to inspect his rusted
out, dream-boat, fishing troller. A fantasy snagged on the horns of a
reality check it seems.

Actually, the bucket method is fairly low risk on an FWC engine in my
opinion and experience. The problem I always had with raw water
engines was the possibility that the thermostat was not open at the
time the anti- freeze was going through the block. Even that is low
risk however if you have petcocks for draining the low everything.

Let's see if we can rekindle an old wrecked.boats controversy! If
that works we can start a thread on the best way to remove a steering
wheel, or, "what to name a cop's boat". This
all-chain-rode-anchor-dragging-catenary cr*p is getting old, and
multi-weight oil just isn't heating up and thinning out like it used
to. Jax can inspire controversy but not with Skipper's deft touch.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 05:09:58 -0400, Eisboch
wrote:

BTW, (to the group) Whatever happened to Skipper? Usually he is here at
this time of year promoting his bucket method of winterization.

=================================================

Skipper appears to have capsized his prairie schooner on the shoals of
life or was perhaps pitch poled by the amber waves of grain. He was
never really the same after that trip to Alaska to inspect his rusted
out, dream-boat, fishing troller. A fantasy snagged on the horns of a
reality check it seems.

Actually, the bucket method is fairly low risk on an FWC engine in my
opinion and experience. The problem I always had with raw water
engines was the possibility that the thermostat was not open at the
time the anti- freeze was going through the block. Even that is low
risk however if you have petcocks for draining the low everything.

Let's see if we can rekindle an old wrecked.boats controversy! If
that works we can start a thread on the best way to remove a steering
wheel, or, "what to name a cop's boat". This
all-chain-rode-anchor-dragging-catenary cr*p is getting old, and
multi-weight oil just isn't heating up and thinning out like it used
to. Jax can inspire controversy but not with Skipper's deft touch.



Eazy questions...

To remove a steering wheel...an industrial grade sawz-all...

Best name for a cop's boat... Broomsticker...

--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

If you choose to do it yourself be sure to take a wire and poke around
the drain holes to get rid of rust that may have built up. See step 5
below. After draining I like to crank the engine just enough to be
sure water gets out of the water pump. Also get an owner's manual for
specific directions and locations of drain spots. These are available
at most boat supply stores. There are also kits to use to replace the
water with anitfreeze and to pump out the oil through the oil fill
tube.

Good luck with which ever choice you make.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:53:39 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:

Since you have done outboards, the only real difference is to drain the
water from the block and change the engine oil.

1. Put fuel stabilizer in the fuel tank.
2. Crank engine on hose to warm it up and distribute fuel stabilizer.
3. Replace engine oil and filter
4. Replace outdrive oil
5. Remove drain plugs on each side of the block and on each side on the
exhaust manifolds. Make sure you get all 4 or you will have water left.
The exhaust ones are located right under the front edge of the manifold at
the engine block. The block ones are down on the side of the engine.
5. Remove hoses and drain.
6. Pour some anti-freeze down thru the water pump until it starts to run
out of the block.
7. Lower outdrive all the way down so it will not trap water.
8. Disconnect battery and make sure it is fully charged.
9. Come about January I take a charger and put on the battery just to top
it back off.

When you get ready to use it again.
1. Install hoses and drain plugs on engine
2. Charge battery
3. Connect battery
4. Crank on hose.

That is all I do. Some will add oil to the cylinders by removing the plugs.
I never fool with that myself.

Now OT. Are all Righties scumbags? I've always considered myself on
the right, but sure hate the idea that you guys would consider me your
enemy. Is that just the way it is?

I do believe that there is only one poster in the NG who often states all right
wingers are scum bags.

Is the right the enemy of the left? No, but some righties, (Hannity, LImbaugh,
Coulter, O'Reilly, etc etc etc etc) claim to be........but only because anybody
left of Zell Miller is a treasonous socialist and will be taken out and shot
when we finally get rid of the pesky bill of rights. :-)

Frank wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with the other posters for the same reason, even
though it isn't rocket science. Better to see someone who knows what
to do and take it from there.

Now OT. Are all Righties scumbags? I've always considered myself on
the right, but sure hate the idea that you guys would consider me your
enemy. Is that just the way it is?

Best regards.

No, not all righties are scumbags. There are many righteous
conservatives of conscience whose views are well-reasoned and acceptable
by men and women of good will.

There are a couple of righties in this very newsgroup who seem quite
reasonable to me, even on the issues on which we are diametrically
opposed. But those righties are in the minority here. Most are
closed-minded ideologues who support every brainfart George W. Bush
emits, and who think a rightie who strays from that path is a traitor.
Several of the righties here, for example, call John McCain a traitor.
Those are the scumbag righties.

How do you feel about John McCain?

I like him a lot personally, and respect him and his ideas, even though
many of his ideas are the opposite of the ones I hold. But McCain is a
man of integrity, and reached his views intellectually. I also admired
Barry Goldwater late in his life.



--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

WaIIy wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:02:30 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Eazy questions...

To remove a steering wheel...an industrial grade sawz-all...

Best name for a cop's boat... Broomsticker...

It was a plunger.


I sit (gently) corrected.



--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:32:24 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

I also admired Barry Goldwater late in his life.

Whe I was much younger than I am now, in fact still a freshman in high
school, we visited Washington DC on a Field Trip. Amoung the group
were a few nerds who were into electronics and were all hams of
various licenses.

Naturally, we asked to see W3USS which was the Senate's amateur radio
station (several Senators were hams at the time). Somebody talked to
somebody and we were taken into the sanctum of W3USS.

As we were entering, out walks this white haired guy who introduces
himself as Barry, K7UGA and gave us a tour of the station - we had no
idea who he was at the time (this was in 1963), but he asked who had
the highest license, which was me and allowed me to be Control Op - I
ran 40 CW Q's and it was the time of my life. :)

It wasn't until late in '63/'64 that I finally figured out who "Barry"
was.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:06:44 -0400, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:42:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


It wasn't until late in '63/'64 that I finally figured out who "Barry"
was.

Might we call that a "golden" moment in your ham career??

One of them. Another was working JA1 on CW, AM, SSB and RTTY.

I have, in my life time, worked the following (out of my "notables"
log):

K2ORS - Jean Shepard (a good friend of my father), K2AMH - Robert
Moog, KA2ORK/J3 - Mark Barettella (before the invasion), W2ZGU - John
W. Campbell, Jr (also a friend of my father), W4CGP - Chet Atkins,
K4LIB - Arthur Godfrey (aeronautical mobile to boot), WB4MCJ - Carl
Rochelle, K6DUE - Roy Neal, W6OBB - Art Bell and a dozen or so of more
or less famous folk.

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

READ THE OWNERS MANUAL! All boats I have owned gave instructions on this
issue. If not purchase the Mercury shop manual for about $40.


"Mark K" wrote in message
ink.net...
I have an 03 Chaparral with a 5.0L Merc (Fuel Injected). I would like to
save the cost of having a marina do the winterizing. Can someone explain
exactly what I need to do? I have never winterized an I/O. I had
outboards
that I did on my own for years.

Thanks in advance
Mark