Air Filter
 

I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines that has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better choices (all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is there a way
to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better choices
(all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

That is a Stock engine (chances are). Save your money. You will get much
more performance from a prop swap.
What prop are you running now.
What is your max rpms at wide open trimmed out.
What is your max speed.
What type of boat to you have
What type of boating are you interested in (skiing, tubing, riding, lots of
people, just 1 or 2 people, top speed, acceleration)

A good SS performance prop setup for your rig can increase top speed by 5
mph or more over a stock aluminum prop.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is there a
way to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better choices
(all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

Hi Tony,

I'm more interested in protecting the motor with a more efficient filter *if
I need to*. The boat is '95 Reinell 184 brxl. I've had it to 50mph with
three guys in the boat. That happened at about 5200rpm. The manual says that
WOT is between 4400-4800 rpm, which is where I tend to run it. That get's me
about 40-45mph. I have the aluminum prop that came with the boat when I
bought it. I'm not much of a skier, and neither is my wife, so it's mainly
cruising and tubing until my kids are old enough to start
skiing/boarding/whatever. By then, I'll probably have a newer boat anyway.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:0Rn9d.209190$D%.200772@attbi_s51...
That is a Stock engine (chances are). Save your money. You will get much
more performance from a prop swap.
What prop are you running now.
What is your max rpms at wide open trimmed out.
What is your max speed.
What type of boat to you have
What type of boating are you interested in (skiing, tubing, riding, lots
of people, just 1 or 2 people, top speed, acceleration)

A good SS performance prop setup for your rig can increase top speed by 5
mph or more over a stock aluminum prop.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is there a
way to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better choices
(all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines
that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:23:14 GMT, "mgg" wrote:

Hi Tony,

I'm more interested in protecting the motor with a more efficient filter *if
I need to*. The boat is '95 Reinell 184 brxl. I've had it to 50mph with

While a K&N filter will flow better than stock, it probably isn't as
good at protecting the engine any better.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

Steve

It will not filter any better.
For your application - I would consider a new prop.
For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide open.
This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more speed at less
rpms. Or travel farther for the same rpms. Based on your numbers you could
go up 3" to 4" of pitch. Check a few prop shops and just try one if they
will let you. I think you will be amazed at the performance difference.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Tony,

I'm more interested in protecting the motor with a more efficient filter
*if I need to*. The boat is '95 Reinell 184 brxl. I've had it to 50mph
with three guys in the boat. That happened at about 5200rpm. The manual
says that WOT is between 4400-4800 rpm, which is where I tend to run it.
That get's me about 40-45mph. I have the aluminum prop that came with the
boat when I bought it. I'm not much of a skier, and neither is my wife, so
it's mainly cruising and tubing until my kids are old enough to start
skiing/boarding/whatever. By then, I'll probably have a newer boat anyway.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:0Rn9d.209190$D%.200772@attbi_s51...
That is a Stock engine (chances are). Save your money. You will get
much more performance from a prop swap.
What prop are you running now.
What is your max rpms at wide open trimmed out.
What is your max speed.
What type of boat to you have
What type of boating are you interested in (skiing, tubing, riding, lots
of people, just 1 or 2 people, top speed, acceleration)

A good SS performance prop setup for your rig can increase top speed by 5
mph or more over a stock aluminum prop.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is there a
way to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of
spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better choices
(all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines
that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is
this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

It will not filter any better.

Cool, that's really what I wanted to know.

For your application - I would consider a new prop.

Thanks! I'll look into it.

For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide open.
This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more speed at less
rpms.

Funny, I never looked at it that way. So, it's much like an airplane that
adjusts RPMs by changing the pitch of the prop?

Thanks again for the info.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:qVv9d.144907$wV.119460@attbi_s54...
It will not filter any better.
For your application - I would consider a new prop.
For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide open.
This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more speed at
less rpms. Or travel farther for the same rpms. Based on your numbers
you could go up 3" to 4" of pitch. Check a few prop shops and just try
one if they will let you. I think you will be amazed at the performance
difference.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Tony,

I'm more interested in protecting the motor with a more efficient filter
*if I need to*. The boat is '95 Reinell 184 brxl. I've had it to 50mph
with three guys in the boat. That happened at about 5200rpm. The manual
says that WOT is between 4400-4800 rpm, which is where I tend to run it.
That get's me about 40-45mph. I have the aluminum prop that came with the
boat when I bought it. I'm not much of a skier, and neither is my wife,
so it's mainly cruising and tubing until my kids are old enough to start
skiing/boarding/whatever. By then, I'll probably have a newer boat
anyway.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:0Rn9d.209190$D%.200772@attbi_s51...
That is a Stock engine (chances are). Save your money. You will get
much more performance from a prop swap.
What prop are you running now.
What is your max rpms at wide open trimmed out.
What is your max speed.
What type of boat to you have
What type of boating are you interested in (skiing, tubing, riding, lots
of people, just 1 or 2 people, top speed, acceleration)

A good SS performance prop setup for your rig can increase top speed by
5 mph or more over a stock aluminum prop.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units
are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is there a
way to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of
spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units
are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better
choices (all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines
that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is
this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

There are also a considerable number of used prop sources including ebay.
The beauty of buying a decent used prop is that you usually can sell it for
what you paid. Or just save money. I keep several and change them
depending on what I want to do. Hole shot or top end. I use the low pitch
one for pulling the big guys up on the slalom or pulling multiple skiers.
Then you can keep one aboad as a spare too.

"mgg" wrote in message
.. .
It will not filter any better.

Cool, that's really what I wanted to know.

For your application - I would consider a new prop.

Thanks! I'll look into it.

For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide open.
This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more speed at
less rpms.

Funny, I never looked at it that way. So, it's much like an airplane that
adjusts RPMs by changing the pitch of the prop?

Thanks again for the info.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:qVv9d.144907$wV.119460@attbi_s54...
It will not filter any better.
For your application - I would consider a new prop.
For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide open.
This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more speed at
less rpms. Or travel farther for the same rpms. Based on your numbers
you could go up 3" to 4" of pitch. Check a few prop shops and just try
one if they will let you. I think you will be amazed at the performance
difference.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Tony,

I'm more interested in protecting the motor with a more efficient filter
*if I need to*. The boat is '95 Reinell 184 brxl. I've had it to 50mph
with three guys in the boat. That happened at about 5200rpm. The manual
says that WOT is between 4400-4800 rpm, which is where I tend to run it.
That get's me about 40-45mph. I have the aluminum prop that came with
the boat when I bought it. I'm not much of a skier, and neither is my
wife, so it's mainly cruising and tubing until my kids are old enough to
start skiing/boarding/whatever. By then, I'll probably have a newer boat
anyway.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:0Rn9d.209190$D%.200772@attbi_s51...
That is a Stock engine (chances are). Save your money. You will get
much more performance from a prop swap.
What prop are you running now.
What is your max rpms at wide open trimmed out.
What is your max speed.
What type of boat to you have
What type of boating are you interested in (skiing, tubing, riding,
lots of people, just 1 or 2 people, top speed, acceleration)

A good SS performance prop setup for your rig can increase top speed by
5 mph or more over a stock aluminum prop.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units
are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is there
a way to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of
spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units
are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better
choices (all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines
that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is
this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

Great advice as well. Thanks!

Now...how do I know what the pitch is of my current prop? The boat isn't
here, so if it's stamped on it somewhere, I can't check until tomorrow.

Thanks again.

--Mike

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
There are also a considerable number of used prop sources including ebay.
The beauty of buying a decent used prop is that you usually can sell it
for what you paid. Or just save money. I keep several and change them
depending on what I want to do. Hole shot or top end. I use the low
pitch one for pulling the big guys up on the slalom or pulling multiple
skiers. Then you can keep one aboad as a spare too.

"mgg" wrote in message
.. .
It will not filter any better.

Cool, that's really what I wanted to know.

For your application - I would consider a new prop.

Thanks! I'll look into it.

For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide
open.
This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more speed at
less rpms.

Funny, I never looked at it that way. So, it's much like an airplane that
adjusts RPMs by changing the pitch of the prop?

Thanks again for the info.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:qVv9d.144907$wV.119460@attbi_s54...
It will not filter any better.
For your application - I would consider a new prop.
For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide
open. This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more
speed at less rpms. Or travel farther for the same rpms. Based on your
numbers you could go up 3" to 4" of pitch. Check a few prop shops and
just try one if they will let you. I think you will be amazed at the
performance difference.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Tony,

I'm more interested in protecting the motor with a more efficient
filter *if I need to*. The boat is '95 Reinell 184 brxl. I've had it
to 50mph with three guys in the boat. That happened at about 5200rpm.
The manual says that WOT is between 4400-4800 rpm, which is where I
tend to run it. That get's me about 40-45mph. I have the aluminum prop
that came with the boat when I bought it. I'm not much of a skier, and
neither is my wife, so it's mainly cruising and tubing until my kids
are old enough to start skiing/boarding/whatever. By then, I'll
probably have a newer boat anyway.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:0Rn9d.209190$D%.200772@attbi_s51...
That is a Stock engine (chances are). Save your money. You will get
much more performance from a prop swap.
What prop are you running now.
What is your max rpms at wide open trimmed out.
What is your max speed.
What type of boat to you have
What type of boating are you interested in (skiing, tubing, riding,
lots of people, just 1 or 2 people, top speed, acceleration)

A good SS performance prop setup for your rig can increase top speed
by 5 mph or more over a stock aluminum prop.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units
are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is there
a way to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of
spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units
are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better
choices (all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine engines
that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is
this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

It will be stamped on the prop on the side and/or at the hub depending on
brand. If you can't find it on the side of the prop, remove it and there
will be a set of numbers either at the front or rear of the hub.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
...
Great advice as well. Thanks!

Now...how do I know what the pitch is of my current prop? The boat isn't
here, so if it's stamped on it somewhere, I can't check until tomorrow.

Thanks again.

--Mike

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
There are also a considerable number of used prop sources including ebay.
The beauty of buying a decent used prop is that you usually can sell it
for what you paid. Or just save money. I keep several and change them
depending on what I want to do. Hole shot or top end. I use the low
pitch one for pulling the big guys up on the slalom or pulling multiple
skiers. Then you can keep one aboad as a spare too.

"mgg" wrote in message
.. .
It will not filter any better.

Cool, that's really what I wanted to know.

For your application - I would consider a new prop.

Thanks! I'll look into it.

For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide
open.
This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more speed at
less rpms.

Funny, I never looked at it that way. So, it's much like an airplane
that adjusts RPMs by changing the pitch of the prop?

Thanks again for the info.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:qVv9d.144907$wV.119460@attbi_s54...
It will not filter any better.
For your application - I would consider a new prop.
For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide
open. This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more
speed at less rpms. Or travel farther for the same rpms. Based on
your numbers you could go up 3" to 4" of pitch. Check a few prop shops
and just try one if they will let you. I think you will be amazed at
the performance difference.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Tony,

I'm more interested in protecting the motor with a more efficient
filter *if I need to*. The boat is '95 Reinell 184 brxl. I've had it
to 50mph with three guys in the boat. That happened at about 5200rpm.
The manual says that WOT is between 4400-4800 rpm, which is where I
tend to run it. That get's me about 40-45mph. I have the aluminum prop
that came with the boat when I bought it. I'm not much of a skier, and
neither is my wife, so it's mainly cruising and tubing until my kids
are old enough to start skiing/boarding/whatever. By then, I'll
probably have a newer boat anyway.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:0Rn9d.209190$D%.200772@attbi_s51...
That is a Stock engine (chances are). Save your money. You will get
much more performance from a prop swap.
What prop are you running now.
What is your max rpms at wide open trimmed out.
What is your max speed.
What type of boat to you have
What type of boating are you interested in (skiing, tubing, riding,
lots of people, just 1 or 2 people, top speed, acceleration)

A good SS performance prop setup for your rig can increase top speed
by 5 mph or more over a stock aluminum prop.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units
are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is
there a way to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers of
spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM units
are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better
choices (all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine
engines that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor. Is
this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike

Thanks Tony. I'll check it out tomorrow. Then I'll ask more questions g.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:XXH9d.213722$D%.101312@attbi_s51...
It will be stamped on the prop on the side and/or at the hub depending on
brand. If you can't find it on the side of the prop, remove it and there
will be a set of numbers either at the front or rear of the hub.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
...
Great advice as well. Thanks!

Now...how do I know what the pitch is of my current prop? The boat isn't
here, so if it's stamped on it somewhere, I can't check until tomorrow.

Thanks again.

--Mike

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
There are also a considerable number of used prop sources including
ebay. The beauty of buying a decent used prop is that you usually can
sell it for what you paid. Or just save money. I keep several and
change them depending on what I want to do. Hole shot or top end. I
use the low pitch one for pulling the big guys up on the slalom or
pulling multiple skiers. Then you can keep one aboad as a spare too.

"mgg" wrote in message
.. .
It will not filter any better.

Cool, that's really what I wanted to know.

For your application - I would consider a new prop.

Thanks! I'll look into it.

For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide
open.
This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more speed at
less rpms.

Funny, I never looked at it that way. So, it's much like an airplane
that adjusts RPMs by changing the pitch of the prop?

Thanks again for the info.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:qVv9d.144907$wV.119460@attbi_s54...
It will not filter any better.
For your application - I would consider a new prop.
For your application you want your rpms to be at about 4600 at wide
open. This will give you better fuel economy since you will get more
speed at less rpms. Or travel farther for the same rpms. Based on
your numbers you could go up 3" to 4" of pitch. Check a few prop
shops and just try one if they will let you. I think you will be
amazed at the performance difference.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Tony,

I'm more interested in protecting the motor with a more efficient
filter *if I need to*. The boat is '95 Reinell 184 brxl. I've had it
to 50mph with three guys in the boat. That happened at about 5200rpm.
The manual says that WOT is between 4400-4800 rpm, which is where I
tend to run it. That get's me about 40-45mph. I have the aluminum
prop that came with the boat when I bought it. I'm not much of a
skier, and neither is my wife, so it's mainly cruising and tubing
until my kids are old enough to start skiing/boarding/whatever. By
then, I'll probably have a newer boat anyway.

--Mike

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:0Rn9d.209190$D%.200772@attbi_s51...
That is a Stock engine (chances are). Save your money. You will
get much more performance from a prop swap.
What prop are you running now.
What is your max rpms at wide open trimmed out.
What is your max speed.
What type of boat to you have
What type of boating are you interested in (skiing, tubing, riding,
lots of people, just 1 or 2 people, top speed, acceleration)

A good SS performance prop setup for your rig can increase top speed
by 5 mph or more over a stock aluminum prop.

--
Tony
My Boats and Cars
http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM
units are
fine.

I'm not sure if it's bone stock or not. I'm the third owner. Is
there a way to tell? It's a 4.3l Merc.

--Mike

"bomar" wrote in message
...
It is true...in fact there are a number of aftermarket suppliers
of spar
arrestors that will flow better than the stock units.
If your engine is bone stock, don't waste your money, the OEM
units are
fine.
If you are into High Performance boating there are a lot better
choices (all
USCG approved) than OEM

"mgg" wrote in message
. ..
I read recently that K&N makes a filter approved for marine
engines that
has
better flow and filtration than my old aluminum flame arrestor.
Is this
true, or just K&N hype?

Thanks.

--Mike