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OT--CNSnews was first to report last time too.
Finally discovering proof of the Saddam/terrorist link means it's curtains
for Kerry. Yeah, we're much better off with a guy who sets off on a wild goose chase and then hopes to beat hell that he can find *something* to justify it. Odd that documents like this turn up just now, from a "non-appointed" source in the Administration, isn't it? But not surprising. |
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On 05 Oct 2004 01:17:13 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: Finally discovering proof of the Saddam/terrorist link means it's curtains for Kerry. Yeah, we're much better off with a guy who sets off on a wild goose chase and then hopes to beat hell that he can find *something* to justify it. Odd that documents like this turn up just now, from a "non-appointed" source in the Administration, isn't it? But not surprising. It's October, isn't it? Weren't you expecting a surprise? John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who do binary and those who don't! The Oil for Food investigation may yield another big one. Russia, France, China....all implicated, as is the UN with receiving kickback money. When this breaks open it will be big. As to the CNS story NOYB published, let's see how much play it gets on the network news. My guess...none. |
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On 05 Oct 2004 01:17:13 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: Finally discovering proof of the Saddam/terrorist link means it's curtains for Kerry. Yeah, we're much better off with a guy who sets off on a wild goose chase and then hopes to beat hell that he can find *something* to justify it. Odd that documents like this turn up just now, from a "non-appointed" source in the Administration, isn't it? But not surprising. It's October, isn't it? Weren't you expecting a surprise? Actually, I wasn't. To me, it's no surprise that Saddam had been working with terrorists since '93. I've been saying that since September 2001. |
Gould,
You forget, Kerry was on the intelligence committee, reviewed all the same info that the Administration saw and come to the exact some conclusion and voted to give the administration the authority to go to war. "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Finally discovering proof of the Saddam/terrorist link means it's curtains for Kerry. Yeah, we're much better off with a guy who sets off on a wild goose chase and then hopes to beat hell that he can find *something* to justify it. Odd that documents like this turn up just now, from a "non-appointed" source in the Administration, isn't it? But not surprising. |
Gould,
You forget, Kerry was on the intelligence committee, reviewed all the same info that the Administration saw and come to the exact some conclusion and voted to give the administration the authority to go to war. The intelligence committee reviewed all the information that the Executive Branch chose to share at the time. By carefully selecting the information available to Congress, the Administration could, and did, maniuplate the outcome of the commitee deliberations. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... And I'm not grasping at straws. In October 2001, even *you* believed Saddam played a role in 9/11. Yeah, I admit I believed for a moment what the POTUS was saying. Bush wasn't even mentioning Saddam publically back in October 2001...but you were. So I ask you once again: What was the reason for your belief back then? |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Gould, You forget, Kerry was on the intelligence committee, reviewed all the same info that the Administration saw and come to the exact some conclusion and voted to give the administration the authority to go to war. The intelligence committee reviewed all the information that the Executive Branch chose to share at the time. By carefully selecting the information available to Congress, the Administration could, and did, maniuplate the outcome of the commitee deliberations. Clinton was the CIC while Kerry sat on the intelligence committee. So you're saying that bubba manipulated the data? I can believe that. |
In article , PocoLoco415
@hotmail.com says... I concur. Besides, Kerry is a lying scumbag. (Or have I said that already?) Boy, you're a quite a judge of character. I suppose you think Bush is a lily white truth teller? Man, you're drifting a ways off your "no spin zone." You're spinning faster than any of the hurricanes that passed through Florida. jps |
In article , gould0738
@aol.com says... Finally discovering proof of the Saddam/terrorist link means it's curtains for Kerry. Yeah, we're much better off with a guy who sets off on a wild goose chase and then hopes to beat hell that he can find *something* to justify it. Odd that documents like this turn up just now, from a "non-appointed" source in the Administration, isn't it? But not surprising. Yes, this was Herring's biggest bitch in quitting the Washington Post. As long as the unnamed sources agree with his point of view, it's no problem. Herring's clearly losing brain cells and the synapses aren't firing like they used to. jps |
jps wrote:
In article , PocoLoco415 @hotmail.com says... I concur. Besides, Kerry is a lying scumbag. (Or have I said that already?) Boy, you're a quite a judge of character. I suppose you think Bush is a lily white truth teller? Man, you're drifting a ways off your "no spin zone." You're spinning faster than any of the hurricanes that passed through Florida. jps Herring's war injuries make his head hurt when he tries to think, so...he gave up thinking. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
Jim Donohue wrote:
Still waiting for the well reasoned part. Pakistan is probably the world's biggest home to radical moslems...where do you think Bin Laden is? I thought the radical moslems vacationed in crawford, on the Bush pseudo-ranch? -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
NOYB wrote:
"Jim Donohue" wrote in message news:g8y8d.12773$mS1.5291@fed1read05... Still waiting for the well reasoned part. Pakistan is probably the world's biggest home to radical moslems...where do you think Bin Laden is? The hold that Musharef has on the government is quite limited and there is at least an even chance that his replacement will be a fundamentalist radical. And should that day come, it's highly likely that India and Pakistan will end up nuking each other. Should it come to that, then I hope that the Indians destroy the fundamentalist radical Pakistanis before the Pakistanis have time to pass their nukes along to the terrorists. Man..you're really hot to trot on global thermonuclear war... Do you really think that if it starts, your little town won't end up with a nuke up its butt? Iran is clearly, and openly developing nuclear skills. Since the Pakistanis sold the art their is no reason to believe they will not succeed. Time is not on their side right now. The US or Israel will see to it that they never get to the testing stage in their development of nukes. You're delusional. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim Donohue" wrote in message news:g8y8d.12773$mS1.5291@fed1read05... Still waiting for the well reasoned part. Pakistan is probably the world's biggest home to radical moslems...where do you think Bin Laden is? The hold that Musharef has on the government is quite limited and there is at least an even chance that his replacement will be a fundamentalist radical. And should that day come, it's highly likely that India and Pakistan will end up nuking each other. Should it come to that, then I hope that the Indians destroy the fundamentalist radical Pakistanis before the Pakistanis have time to pass their nukes along to the terrorists. Man..you're really hot to trot on global thermonuclear war... Not at all. I'm being realistic. If the same radical Islamic fundamentalists who were stirring up clashes in Kashmir are successful in an assassination attempt on Musharraf, you'd better believe that the government of India will seriously consider a preemptive strike on Pakistan. There have been two publicly disclosed attempts on Musharraf's life. For this reason, there are Americans working to protect him as we speak. Musharraf's death would be a nightmare scenario...as would a Wahabiist overthrow of King Fahd. Do you really think that if it starts, your little town won't end up with a nuke up its butt? nope. Iran is clearly, and openly developing nuclear skills. Since the Pakistanis sold the art their is no reason to believe they will not succeed. Time is not on their side right now. The US or Israel will see to it that they never get to the testing stage in their development of nukes. You're delusional. The US and/or Israel will not let Iran acquire nukes. Mark my words. |
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message Man..you're really hot to trot on global thermonuclear war... Not at all. I'm being realistic. If the same radical Islamic fundamentalists who were stirring up clashes in Kashmir are successful in an assassination attempt on Musharraf, you'd better believe that the government of India will seriously consider a preemptive strike on Pakistan. India and Pakistan have been at each other's throats since India achieved independence in 1947 from the Brits and Pakistan "split off" to provide a homeland for most of India's Muslim population. They already had a substantial war. India is not run my lunatics. Pakistan is a bit less insane than it was...but you never know. The assassination of Pakistan's current leader would not precipitate nuclear war between the parties. Do you really think that if it starts, your little town won't end up with a nuke up its butt? nope. The US and/or Israel will not let Iran acquire nukes. Mark my words. Iran has nuclear weapons. Iran is playing its cards close to the table. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:33 -0400, JohnH
wrote: CNSNews flipped and flopped. Started as "Conservative News Service" now "Cybertrooper News Service". Flip-flop flop-flip Flip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flip -- Q |
"Q" wrote in message ... On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:33 -0400, JohnH wrote: CNSNews flipped and flopped. Started as "Conservative News Service" now "Cybertrooper News Service". Flip-flop flop-flip Flip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flip -- Q So what about the report they posted "Q"? |
Q wrote:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:33 -0400, JohnH wrote: CNSNews flipped and flopped. Started as "Conservative News Service" now "Cybertrooper News Service". Flip-flop flop-flip Flip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flip You know, I was wondering if that trash site had been renamed... No wonder the righties so like it... -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:37:26 -0400, JohnH
wrote: So what's your point? I report... You decide. -- Q |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message Man..you're really hot to trot on global thermonuclear war... Not at all. I'm being realistic. If the same radical Islamic fundamentalists who were stirring up clashes in Kashmir are successful in an assassination attempt on Musharraf, you'd better believe that the government of India will seriously consider a preemptive strike on Pakistan. India and Pakistan have been at each other's throats since India achieved independence in 1947 from the Brits and Pakistan "split off" to provide a homeland for most of India's Muslim population. They already had a substantial war. India is not run my lunatics. Pakistan is a bit less insane than it was...but you never know. The assassination of Pakistan's current leader would not precipitate nuclear war between the parties. I didn't make myself clear enough. The assassination itself wouldn't precipitate nuclear war between India and Pakistan. The assassination of Musharraf during a coup d'etat, where the most radicial Islamic fundamentalists in Pakistani intelligence seize control of the country and its nukes, would likely lead to a preemptive strike by India. Do you really think that if it starts, your little town won't end up with a nuke up its butt? nope. The US and/or Israel will not let Iran acquire nukes. Mark my words. Iran has nuclear weapons. Iran is playing its cards close to the table. Iran doesn't have nukes. If they had 'em, they'd have already passed 'em along to Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, and we'd see the proof in the form of a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Q wrote: On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:33 -0400, JohnH wrote: CNSNews flipped and flopped. Started as "Conservative News Service" now "Cybertrooper News Service". Flip-flop flop-flip Flip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flipFlip-flop flop-flip You know, I was wondering if that trash site had been renamed... No wonder the righties so like it... If Harry hates it, then it's definitely the news source for me. |
Fair and balanced, unlike the lying scumbag Kerry.
John H Since you support Bush and Cheney so enthusiastically, I assume you have no problem with liars. ("I've never met John Edwards before tonight"). Apparently it is the "scumbag" characteristic you're objecting to? |
"Jim Donohue" wrote in message news:k2K8d.13366$mS1.7494@fed1read05... Ad Nauseum...boy you are a low brow. In this entire interchange you have utterly failed to make a cogent response. Either you didn't like the responses...or you didn't understand them. I suspect the latter. The useful poplulation of Saudi Arabia is about 65% of Irag. It is spread over a much wider area. We have a significant presence there to start. The royalty has allowed its radical moslem wing to operate in ways that lead to 9/11. You know hold that there was no relationship between the Saudi system and the radicals? So now it's the "Saudi system" that caused the attack? Before, you were implying that the Saudi government was responsible. How quickly you've backed off your assertion once I enlightened you to the fact that the current Saudi Royal Family is fighting its own war for survival against the radical Islamic fundamentalists that brought us 9/11. Wanna buy a bridge? Not from you. I only do business with people of integrity and intelligence. I thought you might actually have enough intellectual to engage in an active discourse particulary with someone to the right of you. I was wrong. Sorry you're so easily confused. |
JohnH wrote:
Who said I was enthusiastic about Bush and Cheney? Hell, I'm as independent as you are. Herring's planning on enrolling in the Cheney School of Veracity, as soon as he can raise the $5.00 tuition for this semester. -- "...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize either my record or John Kerry's." - Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04 |
The Saudi Royals allowed the radicals free rain and bribed the hell out of
them to keep control of the country. The strength of the radicals in Saudi Arabia is directly traceable to malfeasance and nonfeasance by the Royals. They provided the climate that enabled 9/11 and have still done nothing significant to end the role of the Saudi radicals. Given their position their country should have been first on our list of the "degenerate backers of terrorists". A whole lot better case there then against Saddam. Strategically much more important and useful as well. Bush just lacked the balls to sieze control of Mecca. He is afriad of the Terrorists. The final report out today by the US Arms investigators...No WMDs, No WMD programs...no hidden WMDs. Apparently the report you are pushing are considered by the professionals as less than believeable. Suarely though in your blind allegiance to Bush you will miss all that. No one so dumb as he who refuses to believe the truth...and NOYB you got a big dose of that. Jim Donohue "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Jim Donohue" wrote in message news:k2K8d.13366$mS1.7494@fed1read05... Ad Nauseum...boy you are a low brow. In this entire interchange you have utterly failed to make a cogent response. Either you didn't like the responses...or you didn't understand them. I suspect the latter. The useful poplulation of Saudi Arabia is about 65% of Irag. It is spread over a much wider area. We have a significant presence there to start. The royalty has allowed its radical moslem wing to operate in ways that lead to 9/11. You know hold that there was no relationship between the Saudi system and the radicals? So now it's the "Saudi system" that caused the attack? Before, you were implying that the Saudi government was responsible. How quickly you've backed off your assertion once I enlightened you to the fact that the current Saudi Royal Family is fighting its own war for survival against the radical Islamic fundamentalists that brought us 9/11. Wanna buy a bridge? Not from you. I only do business with people of integrity and intelligence. I thought you might actually have enough intellectual to engage in an active discourse particulary with someone to the right of you. I was wrong. Sorry you're so easily confused. |
"Jim Donohue" wrote in message news:eh09d.167$_a3.74@fed1read05... The Saudi Royals allowed the radicals free rain and bribed the hell out of them to keep control of the country. The strength of the radicals in Saudi Arabia is directly traceable to malfeasance and nonfeasance by the Royals. They provided the climate that enabled 9/11 and have still done nothing significant to end the role of the Saudi radicals. Given their position their country should have been first on our list of the "degenerate backers of terrorists". A whole lot better case there then against Saddam. Strategically much more important and useful as well. Bush just lacked the balls to sieze control of Mecca. He is afriad of the Terrorists. LOL. Sure he is. Bush was protecting our economy. Following Bush's plan, we can still seize Mecca...but only after we have secured an oil source from a country or two *besides* Saudi Arabia. The final report out today by the US Arms investigators...No WMDs, No WMD programs...no hidden WMDs. Apparently the report you are pushing are considered by the professionals as less than believeable. You've chosen to believe a couple of sound-bites from the liberal news media. But there is a lot more to the report than you've let on. Hell, it's 1500 pages. Duelfer wouldn't need 1500 pages to say no WMD, no WMD programs, and no hidden WMD. |
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