Please tell me how he's going to do all this.

"progressively" :-)

John,
Bill O'Reilly is an entertainer, he is not a journalist nor is he an
intellectual giant. He is not in the same league as Jim Lehrer. If we
wanted a intelligent conservative on the level of Jim Lehrer, I would
recommend George F. Will.


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:54:02 GMT, "Taco Heaven"
wrote:

I noticed that Lehrer did allow Bush 30 secs to respond, even though the
rules stated it was up to Lehrer to decide if the candidates could get an
additional 30 secs. But if he gave Bush and extra 30 secs, he than allow
Kerry an additional 30 secs. to respond to Bush.

I am sure Lehrer is biased but it appeared that he was trying his best to
remain neutral, which doesn't mean that he didn't lob Kerry a few easier
balls. My opinion is he did give Kerry slightly easier questions, but
unless you asked each camp to provide the questions it is going to
happen..

Which is why Bill O'Reilly should moderate the next debate.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world,
those who do binary and those who don't!

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
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John,
Bill O'Reilly is an entertainer,

you forgot "pompous windbag" in your description

he is not a journalist nor is he an
intellectual giant. He is not in the same league as Jim Lehrer. If we
wanted a intelligent conservative on the level of Jim Lehrer, I would
recommend George F. Will.


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:54:02 GMT, "Taco Heaven"

wrote:

I noticed that Lehrer did allow Bush 30 secs to respond, even though the
rules stated it was up to Lehrer to decide if the candidates could get
an
additional 30 secs. But if he gave Bush and extra 30 secs, he than
allow
Kerry an additional 30 secs. to respond to Bush.

I am sure Lehrer is biased but it appeared that he was trying his best
to
remain neutral, which doesn't mean that he didn't lob Kerry a few easier
balls. My opinion is he did give Kerry slightly easier questions, but
unless you asked each camp to provide the questions it is going to
happen..

Which is why Bill O'Reilly should moderate the next debate.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world,
those who do binary and those who don't!

I was trying to be polite, but I do agree with you. Whenever someone is
winning an discussion he cuts them off. I loved the video of him walking
out of an interview, because they were asking tough questions.


"P.Fritz" wrote in message
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"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
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John,
Bill O'Reilly is an entertainer,

you forgot "pompous windbag" in your description

Don't forget to add me Christopher.


"Christopher" wrote in message
...
ahh yes another off topic post from our lil buddy harry. what a suprise.

plunk*


chris....


Harry Krause wrote:

Good grief...how many times did Bush same the same stupid thing, over
and over and over...

Long pauses, stumbling through the language...

And Bush's body language...looked like he wanted to be somewhere else.

What an embarrassing fool Bush is.

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a
pariah.

What, me worry?

Or shouts them down if he thinks he can get away with it.

The other one that drives me nuts is greta van whatever.....I wish someone
would tell her to OPEN HER MOUTH when she speaks.......it looks like she is
practicing to be a ventriloquist (sp?)



"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
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I was trying to be polite, but I do agree with you. Whenever someone is
winning an discussion he cuts them off. I loved the video of him walking
out of an interview, because they were asking tough questions.


"P.Fritz" wrote in message
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"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
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John,
Bill O'Reilly is an entertainer,

you forgot "pompous windbag" in your description

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:33:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

I don't think the polls matter as much as the fact that the DNC did
something massive, in terms of communicating with people. THAT is what
really bothers PFritz. He wants the DNC to be quiet.

RIGHT!

snicker typical liebral response.....accuse others of what they
personally are guilty of.

Au contraire, professor. I think it's best that the Republican party and the
president's staff continue to spew whatever they like from now until the
elections. No matter how stupid a person may be, *everyone* eventually
becomes nauseated by that sort of behavior and shuts it out.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

Bush looked annoyed.


What is a good word for someone who *thinks* he's right
and has no doubt about it, but that is actually wrong? I'm
not just looking for jerk or simpelton but something that
actually conveys that concept of thinking you are right
(or in the right) when in reality you are not.


Anyway, Bush looked like he *knows* and *feels* that
he is in the right and is doing everything right and that
anyone who askes him any questions about it or says
otherwise is just wasting his time.


Kerry looked presidential.




I don't know the word, either, but Kerry addressed the behavior at one point
by saying it's one thing to be committed to an idea initially, but wrong to
be totally inflexible as new information is discovered. I'm sure this idea
was lost on Bush.

DELUSIONAL.

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

Bush looked annoyed.


What is a good word for someone who *thinks* he's right
and has no doubt about it, but that is actually wrong? I'm
not just looking for jerk or simpelton but something that
actually conveys that concept of thinking you are right
(or in the right) when in reality you are not.


Anyway, Bush looked like he *knows* and *feels* that
he is in the right and is doing everything right and that
anyone who askes him any questions about it or says
otherwise is just wasting his time.


Kerry looked presidential.




So looks are important to you in this election? How about Kerry's hair
style and manicure? Impeccable. Nice suit too.

Impressive.

I bet also you believe that clothes make the man......right?

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...


On delivery /style... so what.........remeber the hell from the last
slick talker that occupied the WH from the liebral side of the aisle.

Slick Talker: Anyone with a longer attention span than yours.

"Sam" wrote in message
m...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

Bush looked annoyed.


What is a good word for someone who *thinks* he's right
and has no doubt about it, but that is actually wrong? I'm
not just looking for jerk or simpelton but something that
actually conveys that concept of thinking you are right
(or in the right) when in reality you are not.


Anyway, Bush looked like he *knows* and *feels* that
he is in the right and is doing everything right and that
anyone who askes him any questions about it or says
otherwise is just wasting his time.


Kerry looked presidential.




I don't know the word, either, but Kerry addressed the behavior at one
point
by saying it's one thing to be committed to an idea initially, but wrong
to
be totally inflexible as new information is discovered. I'm sure this
idea
was lost on Bush.

DELUSIONAL.

Yeah....that's one way to describe it. :-) Actually, it's how *I* would
describe Bush. But, we're missing a better word - one which wouldn't turn
the debate into a **** storm. I'll think of it if my &$*@ phones stop
ringing for one minute.

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Sam" wrote in message
m...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

Bush looked annoyed.


What is a good word for someone who *thinks* he's right
and has no doubt about it, but that is actually wrong? I'm
not just looking for jerk or simpelton but something that
actually conveys that concept of thinking you are right
(or in the right) when in reality you are not.


Anyway, Bush looked like he *knows* and *feels* that
he is in the right and is doing everything right and that
anyone who askes him any questions about it or says
otherwise is just wasting his time.


Kerry looked presidential.




I don't know the word, either, but Kerry addressed the behavior at one
point
by saying it's one thing to be committed to an idea initially, but wrong
to
be totally inflexible as new information is discovered. I'm sure this
idea
was lost on Bush.

DELUSIONAL.

Yeah....that's one way to describe it. :-) Actually, it's how *I* would
describe Bush. But, we're missing a better word - one which wouldn't turn
the debate into a **** storm. I'll think of it if my &$*@ phones stop
ringing for one minute.




Perhaps he was referring to the belief that Bush suffers from Rigid
Personality Disorder.


Most people have a fairly flexible personality that allows them to adapt
to a variety of circumstances, people and events. Persons with Rigid
Personality Disorder, however, lack this flexibility, and instead, get
stuck in fairly rigid ways of relating.


-
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:51:46 -0400, P.Fritz wrote:


Also interesting is how the same spin occurred with the first gore/Bush
debate........just give it a little time, and the incoherance of kerry's
policoes will come home to roost.

And then there is the Presidential debate that created "spin".

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/patc/spin/

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

By the way, Bush's health care plan is spooky. Here's the deal: Keep a war
going at all times. Since the armed forces tend to attract lower income
people who probably can't afford to pay the full pop for health insurance,
he'll keep sending them places where they're likely to die. Eventually,
Bush
will tilt the "how many are uninsured" numbers his way. The people who'd
normally fall into that category will be dead.


You been talking to b'ass?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"Sam" wrote in message
m...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

Bush looked annoyed.


What is a good word for someone who *thinks* he's right
and has no doubt about it, but that is actually wrong? I'm
not just looking for jerk or simpelton but something that
actually conveys that concept of thinking you are right
(or in the right) when in reality you are not.


Anyway, Bush looked like he *knows* and *feels* that
he is in the right and is doing everything right and that
anyone who askes him any questions about it or says
otherwise is just wasting his time.


Kerry looked presidential.




I don't know the word, either, but Kerry addressed the behavior at one
point
by saying it's one thing to be committed to an idea initially, but wrong
to
be totally inflexible as new information is discovered. I'm sure this
idea
was lost on Bush.

DELUSIONAL.

Yeah....that's one way to describe it. :-) Actually, it's how *I* would
describe Bush. But, we're missing a better word - one which wouldn't turn
the debate into a **** storm. I'll think of it if my &$*@ phones stop
ringing for one minute.

REPUBLICAN.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"JohnH" wrote in message
...


Chuck, I didn't say Bush was great. I said, "I can't wait for the debate
where
Kerry says he'll fix education, health care, the environment, slums,
unemployment, and transportation, in addition to solving
the problems of the poor and all of Sudan and searching every container
entering
our ports and all the baggage entering our airplanes, without raising
taxes on
any but the rich. Oh, I forgot that he's going to wipe out all the nuclear
weapons in the world also, and he's going to kill every terrorist with a
much
bigger Army.
To begin with I don't understand how everybody posts so quick, mine
take hours to appear.Second, John H's don't show up except 2nd hand in
other peoples posts. Third, what's the problem with taxes?
Education,health care, the environment, slums, unemployment,
transportation, the poor, the ports, Sudan, nuclear weapons,killing
terrorists.You think God's just gonna dump that in your lap,all
solved, gratis?How else is it to be paid for?I begin to see the repubs
reason to objection of abortion. Who else is to pay back the money in
the future that the repubs are stealing in the present.Right wing
paranoia drives the drug war, the terrorist war, the class war, the
religious war,the cold war but right wing palaver is to whine about
the cost to their own pockets of solving the problems that their own
greed has often caused.

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:57:11 -0700, Sam wrote:

To begin with I don't understand how everybody posts so quick, mine take
hours to appear.Second, John H's don't show up except 2nd hand in other
peoples posts.

You might want to try another news server. I would suggest:

http://www.individual.net/

Who would listen to the politcal opinions of posters who don't have enought
sence not to post to a boating group! Der.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Sam" wrote in message
m...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

Bush looked annoyed.


What is a good word for someone who *thinks* he's right
and has no doubt about it, but that is actually wrong? I'm
not just looking for jerk or simpelton but something that
actually conveys that concept of thinking you are right
(or in the right) when in reality you are not.


Anyway, Bush looked like he *knows* and *feels* that
he is in the right and is doing everything right and that
anyone who askes him any questions about it or says
otherwise is just wasting his time.


Kerry looked presidential.




I don't know the word, either, but Kerry addressed the behavior at
one
point
by saying it's one thing to be committed to an idea initially, but
wrong
to
be totally inflexible as new information is discovered. I'm sure this
idea
was lost on Bush.

DELUSIONAL.

Yeah....that's one way to describe it. :-) Actually, it's how *I* would
describe Bush. But, we're missing a better word - one which wouldn't
turn
the debate into a **** storm. I'll think of it if my &$*@ phones stop
ringing for one minute.




Perhaps he was referring to the belief that Bush suffers from Rigid
Personality Disorder.


Most people have a fairly flexible personality that allows them to adapt
to a variety of circumstances, people and events. Persons with Rigid
Personality Disorder, however, lack this flexibility, and instead, get
stuck in fairly rigid ways of relating.

Well....ya know, adapting and changing yer thinkin' is hard work. Lotta
work. Hard work.