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Harry Krause September 27th 04 02:20 PM

OT--Looks like Harry was right about the hurricanes
 
NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.

It would be very decent of you and some of your wealthy professional
friends to see what you can do to help some of the least fortunate in
your state who have lost everything and have no insurance. You have a
lot of very hard working migrant agricultural workers who do the jobs no
Americans will touch, and they have been really devastated by the
storms. Clothing, food, help with temporary shelter...help your brothers
out there, Nobby...it'll make you feel warm all over.



--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Karl Denninger September 27th 04 02:33 PM


In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:


NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.


Bull****.

Two of the best-known and most-well-respected hurricane analysts (Gray being
one, *******i being another) have said that is complete bull****.

Specifically, "global warming", were it real, would tend to DIMINISH
hurricane activity since it would lessen the gradients that drive these
storms.

Second, there is a roughly 30 year cycle in hurricane activity, with 60
years for a complete "cycle".

We have been in a 30 year LOW. Now we're entering a 30 year HIGH. The last
"high" cycle ended roughly in 1970.

If you actually LOOK at the data, instead of simply trying to fit what's
happening to something you WANT to see, this becomes rather obvious.

Indeed, it requires no "hard science" - just a look at the numbers. The 40s
to 70s had more hurricanes, the 70s to 00s had less, the 10s to 40s had
more, etc.

What this means is that we're due for 30 years of this chit - and it has
nothing to do with "global anything"; its a normal cyclical weather pattern.

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Harry Krause September 27th 04 02:34 PM

Karl Denninger wrote:
In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:


NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.


Bull****.

Two of the best-known and most-well-respected hurricane analysts (Gray being
one, *******i being another) have said that is complete bull****.


Well, that doesn't make it so.




--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

P.Fritz September 27th 04 02:45 PM


"Karl Denninger" wrote in message
ink.net...

In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:


NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.


Bull****.

Two of the best-known and most-well-respected hurricane analysts (Gray

being
one, *******i being another) have said that is complete bull****.

Specifically, "global warming", were it real, would tend to DIMINISH
hurricane activity since it would lessen the gradients that drive these
storms.

Second, there is a roughly 30 year cycle in hurricane activity, with 60
years for a complete "cycle".

We have been in a 30 year LOW. Now we're entering a 30 year HIGH. The

last
"high" cycle ended roughly in 1970.

If you actually LOOK at the data, instead of simply trying to fit what's
happening to something you WANT to see, this becomes rather obvious.

Indeed, it requires no "hard science" - just a look at the numbers. The

40s
to 70s had more hurricanes, the 70s to 00s had less, the 10s to 40s had
more, etc.

What this means is that we're due for 30 years of this chit - and it has
nothing to do with "global anything"; its a normal cyclical weather

pattern.

Just like the water levels in the great lakes......there is a cycle from low
to high....as the water fell, it was blamed on global warming, now that it
is rising once again, no doubt, that too will be blamed on global warming.

Because global warming is based on such bad science, anything and everything
can be pinned on it.....all with no proof.



--
--
Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights

Activist
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NOYB September 27th 04 02:46 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.

It would be very decent of you and some of your wealthy professional
friends to see what you can do to help some of the least fortunate in
your state who have lost everything and have no insurance. You have a
lot of very hard working migrant agricultural workers who do the jobs no
Americans will touch, and they have been really devastated by the
storms. Clothing, food, help with temporary shelter...help your brothers
out there, Nobby...it'll make you feel warm all over.


I have.

BTW--You do realize that there's no law against sending checks across state
lines to the Red Cross in areas that were effected by the hurricanes? When
you write *your* check, please write "earmarked for hurricane ____ recovery
efforts in _______ county" so the money gets used for what it was meant for.
That's what I did.





NOYB September 27th 04 02:55 PM


"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Karl Denninger" wrote in message
ink.net...

In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:


NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the

increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.


Bull****.

Two of the best-known and most-well-respected hurricane analysts (Gray

being
one, *******i being another) have said that is complete bull****.

Specifically, "global warming", were it real, would tend to DIMINISH
hurricane activity since it would lessen the gradients that drive these
storms.

Second, there is a roughly 30 year cycle in hurricane activity, with 60
years for a complete "cycle".

We have been in a 30 year LOW. Now we're entering a 30 year HIGH. The

last
"high" cycle ended roughly in 1970.

If you actually LOOK at the data, instead of simply trying to fit what's
happening to something you WANT to see, this becomes rather obvious.

Indeed, it requires no "hard science" - just a look at the numbers. The

40s
to 70s had more hurricanes, the 70s to 00s had less, the 10s to 40s had
more, etc.

What this means is that we're due for 30 years of this chit - and it has
nothing to do with "global anything"; its a normal cyclical weather

pattern.

Just like the water levels in the great lakes......there is a cycle from

low
to high....as the water fell, it was blamed on global warming, now that it
is rising once again, no doubt, that too will be blamed on global warming.

Because global warming is based on such bad science, anything and

everything
can be pinned on it.....all with no proof.


So you guys don't think that God is punishing the counties that voted for
Bush?

Good. Because if you look at that map again, you'll see a couple of
problems with it. Volusia, Orange, and Osceola counties all got nailed by
Frances and Jeanne...and all went squarely for Gore in 2000. Also, I'm
pretty sure that the Keys are part of Monroe County.



Harry Krause September 27th 04 02:55 PM

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.

It would be very decent of you and some of your wealthy professional
friends to see what you can do to help some of the least fortunate in
your state who have lost everything and have no insurance. You have a
lot of very hard working migrant agricultural workers who do the jobs no
Americans will touch, and they have been really devastated by the
storms. Clothing, food, help with temporary shelter...help your brothers
out there, Nobby...it'll make you feel warm all over.


I have.

BTW--You do realize that there's no law against sending checks across state
lines to the Red Cross in areas that were effected by the hurricanes? When
you write *your* check, please write "earmarked for hurricane ____ recovery
efforts in _______ county" so the money gets used for what it was meant for.
That's what I did.



We've already made a substantial contribution in this household, and we
are fundraising in our neighborhood to get more.



--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

NOYB September 27th 04 02:58 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the

increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.

It would be very decent of you and some of your wealthy professional
friends to see what you can do to help some of the least fortunate in
your state who have lost everything and have no insurance. You have a
lot of very hard working migrant agricultural workers who do the jobs

no
Americans will touch, and they have been really devastated by the
storms. Clothing, food, help with temporary shelter...help your

brothers
out there, Nobby...it'll make you feel warm all over.


I have.

BTW--You do realize that there's no law against sending checks across

state
lines to the Red Cross in areas that were effected by the hurricanes?

When
you write *your* check, please write "earmarked for hurricane ____

recovery
efforts in _______ county" so the money gets used for what it was meant

for.
That's what I did.



We've already made a substantial contribution in this household, and we
are fundraising in our neighborhood to get more.


Good. Just checking. ;-)



Short Wave Sportfishing September 27th 04 03:02 PM

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:46:31 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.

It would be very decent of you and some of your wealthy professional
friends to see what you can do to help some of the least fortunate in
your state who have lost everything and have no insurance. You have a
lot of very hard working migrant agricultural workers who do the jobs no
Americans will touch, and they have been really devastated by the
storms. Clothing, food, help with temporary shelter...help your brothers
out there, Nobby...it'll make you feel warm all over.


I have.

BTW--You do realize that there's no law against sending checks across state
lines to the Red Cross in areas that were effected by the hurricanes? When
you write *your* check, please write "earmarked for hurricane ____ recovery
efforts in _______ county" so the money gets used for what it was meant for.
That's what I did.


Do that anyway any time you send money to a relief agency. While I
won't have anything to do with the Red Cross, there are other national
agencies working down there and the two checks we've sent are directly
earmarked to relief efforts in that area.

Later,

Tom
-----------
"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653

thunder September 27th 04 03:08 PM

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:45:46 -0400, P.Fritz wrote:


Because global warming is based on such bad science, anything and
everything can be pinned on it.....all with no proof.


Agreed, there isn't enough oil & gas left to cause global warming.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994216

Short Wave Sportfishing September 27th 04 03:38 PM

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:20:55 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.


Atmospheric scientists of major repuration will tell you that it's the
current activity of the normal eleven year sun cycle in concert with
the effects of mid-latitude Pacific warming currents that cause storm
cycles like this. In fact, it has happened before - around the
mid-19th century in Texas I believe - four big hurricanes in a row all
spawned in the same area as the current bunch. Oddly enough, it was a
pretty similar sun/warming current cycle to this one.

That does not dismiss "global warming" as having some minor impact on
what is happening in the atmosphere, but it has always amused me that
blame is placed on glabal warming.

Based on actual geophysical evidence, there have been major cycles of
warming, cooling, temperate cycles throughout the history of the
earth. Now, does that mean that pollution isn't a problem for those
of us who live here, absolutely not - it is a big concern and it
should be given major consideration as it impacts everyone's life on
the planet.

The important thing is that evidence for this being an entirely
normal part of the atmospheric storm cycle is solid - the evidence of
it being caused by global warming is purely anecdotal and unproven.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Taco Heaven September 27th 04 03:45 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Harry,
It would be very decent if you and some of your weathy friends helped too.

It would be very decent of you and some of your wealthy professional

friends to see what you can do to help some of the least fortunate in
your state who have lost everything and have no insurance. You have a
lot of very hard working migrant agricultural workers who do the jobs no
Americans will touch, and they have been really devastated by the
storms. Clothing, food, help with temporary shelter...help your brothers
out there, Nobby...it'll make you feel warm all over.



--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a
pariah.

What, me worry?




Taco Heaven September 27th 04 03:47 PM

There are lots of problems with the map, it just isn't true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/hurricane.asp

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Karl Denninger" wrote in message
ink.net...

In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:


NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the

increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.

Bull****.

Two of the best-known and most-well-respected hurricane analysts (Gray

being
one, *******i being another) have said that is complete bull****.

Specifically, "global warming", were it real, would tend to DIMINISH
hurricane activity since it would lessen the gradients that drive these
storms.

Second, there is a roughly 30 year cycle in hurricane activity, with 60
years for a complete "cycle".

We have been in a 30 year LOW. Now we're entering a 30 year HIGH. The

last
"high" cycle ended roughly in 1970.

If you actually LOOK at the data, instead of simply trying to fit
what's
happening to something you WANT to see, this becomes rather obvious.

Indeed, it requires no "hard science" - just a look at the numbers.
The

40s
to 70s had more hurricanes, the 70s to 00s had less, the 10s to 40s had
more, etc.

What this means is that we're due for 30 years of this chit - and it
has
nothing to do with "global anything"; its a normal cyclical weather

pattern.

Just like the water levels in the great lakes......there is a cycle from

low
to high....as the water fell, it was blamed on global warming, now that
it
is rising once again, no doubt, that too will be blamed on global
warming.

Because global warming is based on such bad science, anything and

everything
can be pinned on it.....all with no proof.


So you guys don't think that God is punishing the counties that voted for
Bush?

Good. Because if you look at that map again, you'll see a couple of
problems with it. Volusia, Orange, and Osceola counties all got nailed by
Frances and Jeanne...and all went squarely for Gore in 2000. Also, I'm
pretty sure that the Keys are part of Monroe County.





jps September 27th 04 04:39 PM

In article et,
says...
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


That's hilarious! Wrath of God! Now if he'd start at Texas and go
north we'd really have something.

jps

Bert Robbins September 28th 04 01:21 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Karl Denninger wrote:
In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:


NOYB wrote:
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


It's the wrath of Hillary!

Seriously, the few analytical reports I've seen seem to tie the increase
in storms to a side effect of global warming.


Bull****.

Two of the best-known and most-well-respected hurricane analysts (Gray

being
one, *******i being another) have said that is complete bull****.


Well, that doesn't make it so.


Did you stick your tounge out after you said that.



basskisser September 28th 04 02:21 PM

"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net...
http://www.unf-unf.de/show.php?did=664

Personally, I think it's the Clinton's doing.


That's because you're stupid.

John Gaquin September 29th 04 02:34 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message news:VYU5d.3994

Also, I'm
pretty sure that the Keys are part of Monroe County.


I don't know, nobbie. My wife and I lived there for a time some years ago.
I'm not convinced that the Keys are part of anything on this planet. :-)




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