Democrats have God on their side ; )
 

I got the following in the mail today. It appears that some democrats are
really grasping at straws.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=104x2378557

Sounds like Bob Morris thinks God is a democrat and that God has smitten
those who vote incorrectly.

PS - besides being an extremely amateur attempt to invoke God's will, the
information on the map is incorrect.

..http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/hurricane.asp


"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:LGD4d.9586$He1.6197@attbi_s01...
I got the following in the mail today. It appears that some democrats are
really grasping at straws.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=104x2378557

Sounds like Bob Morris thinks God is a democrat and that God has smitten
those who vote incorrectly.

Sounds like Bob Morris thinks God is a democrat and that God has smitten
those who vote incorrectly.



How could he be so wrong?

We all know that God is a Republican (according to Pat Roberts, Jerry Falwell,
etc) and that Satan, not God, will smite the US if it elects John Kerry. (Dick
Cheney).

Gould,
Don't you hate it when a democrat looks so stupid. ; ) It looks like
stupid people are involved with both parties.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Sounds like Bob Morris thinks God is a democrat and that God has smitten
those who vote incorrectly.



How could he be so wrong?

We all know that God is a Republican (according to Pat Roberts, Jerry
Falwell,
etc) and that Satan, not God, will smite the US if it elects John Kerry.
(Dick
Cheney).

Gould,
Don't you hate it when a democrat looks so stupid. ; ) It looks like
stupid people are involved with both parties.

True enough. Which party goes out of its way to appeal to stupid people?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Gould,
Don't you hate it when a democrat looks so stupid. ; ) It looks like
stupid people are involved with both parties.

True enough. Which party goes out of its way to appeal to stupid people?

You have got to be kidding if you are inferring nothing less than the
democrats.

That is such a loaded question.

The democrats of course.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Gould,
Don't you hate it when a democrat looks so stupid. ; ) It looks like
stupid people are involved with both parties.

True enough. Which party goes out of its way to appeal to stupid people?

Gould,
When I looked at the people at each convention, it was obvious that there
was a big difference in the crowd. The Republicans looked professional.
The democrats looked like the average Joe 6-Pack, many looked like they
didn't graduate from high school.

When they played the music between speakers, the Republicans looked stiff
and awkward trying to dance, the democrats were having a ball, dancing and
enjoying themselves.

If I wanted to go out and party, I would definitely want to go out with the
democratic crowd. If I needed some professional services, I would want the
Republican crowd.

It is obvious that the democrats go out of their way to appeal to stupid
people.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Gould,
Don't you hate it when a democrat looks so stupid. ; ) It looks like
stupid people are involved with both parties.

True enough. Which party goes out of its way to appeal to stupid people?

It is obvious that the democrats go out of their way to appeal to stupid
people.

Whether or not somebody can dance, (and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt
here that you aren't making an underhanded comment about ther greater ethnic
diversity at one of the conventions), doesn't indicate squat about who the
party is trying to appeal to.

The people at the convention are already in the fold. I'm talking about
trolling for votes.

Take, for example, the almost worn out Republican attack on Kerry, "He voted
againts the F-14, he voted against the B-1, he voted against the missle defense
system, he voted against body armor for the troops, he voted against every
major weapon system used in the war on terror......."

Who is that directed at? Obviously it has to be the people who are too fricking
stupid or intellectually lazy to check the facts and discover the charges to be
major distortions, flirting with status of outright lies.

If your people are so bright, then shame on them twice. They should be able to
campaign based on reality, not have to stoop to lies, inuendo, and distortion.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
..... I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here that you aren't making an
underhanded comment about ther greater ethnic diversity at one of the
conventions.

Gould,
The last thing on my mind was the ethnic diveristy. The democrats at the
convention looked like a fun crowd, who was really enjoying their big show,
but they looked like the average uneducated masses.

The advertisements and spin suring the campaign is designed to get votes
from independents and moderates in either party.

If Kerry was trying to appeal to the intellect of the voters, he would never
have made his 4 months in VN a center piece of his campaign or his
convention. He would have focused on his track record in the senate.

You have become so blinded by your passion for anyone but Bush, that you
fail to see the lies, inuendo and distortion of the Kerry Campaign.

This is Bush-Chenian logic at it's finest...

Taco Heaven wrote:
When I looked at the people at each convention, it was obvious that there
was a big difference in the crowd. The Republicans looked professional.
The democrats looked like the average Joe 6-Pack, many looked like they
didn't graduate from high school.

As defined how? Do people who did not graduate from high school "dress"
a certain way?


When they played the music between speakers, the Republicans looked stiff
and awkward trying to dance, the democrats were having a ball, dancing and
enjoying themselves.

It may be that the choice in music has something to do with that.


If I wanted to go out and party, I would definitely want to go out with the
democratic crowd. If I needed some professional services, I would want the
Republican crowd.

So, based on vague "looks" and choice of music/dancing ability, you feel
you "want" Republicans for "professional services." Like what, for example?


It is obvious that the democrats go out of their way to appeal to stupid
people.

It is obvious that you cannot write a proper & complete sentence in the
English language. Did you graduate from high school? Did you graduate
from school high?

To claim that your prejudices in "looks" and type of attire, and your
taste in music, justify claiming that 'democrats go out of their way to
appeal to stupid people' is really funny.

You're another undercover communist operative like Nobby, aren't you?

DSK

DSK,

I thought it was obvious, that I was using Gould's tactics of making a
statement and then running with it as if it was fact.

It is consistently shown that Republicans have a higher education level than
Democrats, since Doug and Gould did not want to accept these survey's, I
used the same type of "gut feel" logic that Gould and Doug were using.

Obviously, it was only obvious to me.


"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
This is Bush-Chenian logic at it's finest...

Taco Heaven wrote:
When I looked at the people at each convention, it was obvious that there
was a big difference in the crowd. The Republicans looked professional.
The democrats looked like the average Joe 6-Pack, many looked like they
didn't graduate from high school.

As defined how? Do people who did not graduate from high school "dress" a
certain way?


When they played the music between speakers, the Republicans looked stiff
and awkward trying to dance, the democrats were having a ball, dancing
and enjoying themselves.

It may be that the choice in music has something to do with that.


If I wanted to go out and party, I would definitely want to go out with
the democratic crowd. If I needed some professional services, I would
want the Republican crowd.

So, based on vague "looks" and choice of music/dancing ability, you feel
you "want" Republicans for "professional services." Like what, for
example?


It is obvious that the democrats go out of their way to appeal to stupid
people.

It is obvious that you cannot write a proper & complete sentence in the
English language. Did you graduate from high school? Did you graduate from
school high?

To claim that your prejudices in "looks" and type of attire, and your
taste in music, justify claiming that 'democrats go out of their way to
appeal to stupid people' is really funny.

You're another undercover communist operative like Nobby, aren't you?

DSK

Taco Heaven wrote:
I thought it was obvious, that I was using Gould's tactics of making a
statement and then running with it as if it was fact.

It is consistently shown that Republicans have a higher education level than
Democrats

No, actually it hasn't. It has been consistently asserted... by you.

Considering that most of the right wingers making public statements on
the issue consider that college campusses are the last bastion of
communism, I fail to see much support to your claim.

Obviously, it was only obvious to me.

I suggest you stop listening to the voices from your toaster.

DSK

According to the ANES survey conducted by the University of Michigan. The
ANES is not interested in either political party, they are just trying to
track long term political trends. I am using this source just because they
have conducted extensive surveys to try to understand US politics.

http://www.umich.edu/~nes/overview/overview.htm

About 36% of Republicans graduated from college while about 28% and 23% of
Independents and Democrats, respectively, graduated from college. About 59%
of Republicans made over $35,000 a year while only 50% and 35% of
Independents and Democrats, respectively, made over $35,000 a year.

Again, the ANES is not interested in either political party, they are just
trying to track long term political trends.

From the Diane Divers Blair Center for the Study of Southern Politics and
Society, which does not support either party and is only interested in
studying Southern Politics.

http://plsc.uark.edu/arkpoll/fall99/party/PAGE4.HTM

"Adherents to the two parties in Arkansas had different levels of education,
with the Republicans being more educated. Roughly, 23% of the Democrats and
21% of Independents possessed a college degree; 39% of Republicans had
graduated from college."

"The state's Republicans are also wealthier than their Democratic and
Independent counterparts. Almost half (47%) of the Republicans surveyed
stated they had a household income of over $35,000, while 37% of
Independents and just under a third (31%) of the Democrats had incomes over
$35,000."

These two college studies do not endorse either party, but are only
interested in tracking the demographics as it relates to US voters.





"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Taco Heaven wrote:
I thought it was obvious, that I was using Gould's tactics of making a
statement and then running with it as if it was fact.

It is consistently shown that Republicans have a higher education level
than Democrats

No, actually it hasn't. It has been consistently asserted... by you.

Considering that most of the right wingers making public statements on the
issue consider that college campusses are the last bastion of communism, I
fail to see much support to your claim.

Obviously, it was only obvious to me.

I suggest you stop listening to the voices from your toaster.

DSK

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message news:XzW4d.16060$He1.8160@attbi_s01...
That is such a loaded question.

The democrats of course.


Nah, it'd be top posting republicans. After all, it's the republicans
who automatically follow whatever their leader tells them, and NEVER,
EVER question the party. That right there tells me that they, for the
most part, can't think for themselves.

The National Election Studies conducted by the University of Michigan shows
the average education level of Republicans is substantially higher than
democrats.

If you go to their web site, you will the study is not an endorsement of
either party, it is a very scientific study to track long term trends in US
politics and voters. They make no judgment on either party or those who
vote for one party over another.

The ANES survey conducted by the University of Michigan

http://www.umich.edu/~nes/overview/overview.htm

About 36% of Republicans graduated from college while about 28% and 23% of
Independents and Democrats, respectively, graduated from college. About 59%
of Republicans made over $35,000 a year while only 50% and 35% of
Independents and Democrats, respectively, made over $35,000 a year.

Again, the ANES is not interested in either political party, they are just
trying to track long term political trends.

From the Diane Divers Blair Center for the Study of Southern Politics and
Society, which does not support either party and is only interested in
studying Southern Politics. They too agree with my premise.

http://plsc.uark.edu/arkpoll/fall99/party/PAGE4.HTM

"Adherents to the two parties in Arkansas had different levels of education,
with the Republicans being more educated. Roughly, 23% of the Democrats and
21% of Independents possessed a college degree; 39% of Republicans had
graduated from college."

"The state's Republicans are also wealthier than their Democratic and
Independent counterparts. Almost half (47%) of the Republicans surveyed
stated they had a household income of over $35,000, while 37% of
Independents and just under a third (31%) of the Democrats had incomes over
$35,000."




"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:XzW4d.16060$He1.8160@attbi_s01...
That is such a loaded question.

The democrats of course.


Nah, it'd be top posting republicans. After all, it's the republicans
who automatically follow whatever their leader tells them, and NEVER,
EVER question the party. That right there tells me that they, for the
most part, can't think for themselves.

Do you have any proof that " .. it's the republicans who automatically
follow whatever their leader tells them, and NEVER, EVER question the
party."

Do you have any proof that republicans follow their party line anymore than
the average democrats?
The facts show democrats on the average have less education than
republicans, are less successful financially than republicans, and are less
informed and educated on the current political issues than the republicans.
I have documented this proof with unbiased studies conducted by colleges in
an effort to understand US politics, not as an endorsement of any party or
candidate.

Like Gould, you are pulling crap out of your ass, and presenting it as fact.

As far as my top posting, I do that because I use OE for a newsreader. It
is also very common for those affiliated with either party to top post.
Talk about someone grasping at straws.




"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:XzW4d.16060$He1.8160@attbi_s01...
That is such a loaded question.

The democrats of course.


Nah, it'd be top posting republicans. After all, it's the republicans
who automatically follow whatever their leader tells them, and NEVER,
EVER question the party. That right there tells me that they, for the
most part, can't think for themselves.

They know they are going to lose. They are desperate. It is actually quite
funny to read their posts.


"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:dl_4d.149088$3l3.45521@attbi_s03...
Do you have any proof that " .. it's the republicans who automatically
follow whatever their leader tells them, and NEVER, EVER question the
party."

Do you have any proof that republicans follow their party line anymore
than the average democrats?
The facts show democrats on the average have less education than
republicans, are less successful financially than republicans, and are
less informed and educated on the current political issues than the
republicans. I have documented this proof with unbiased studies conducted
by colleges in an effort to understand US politics, not as an endorsement
of any party or candidate.

Like Gould, you are pulling crap out of your ass, and presenting it as
fact.

As far as my top posting, I do that because I use OE for a newsreader. It
is also very common for those affiliated with either party to top post.
Talk about someone grasping at straws.




"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:XzW4d.16060$He1.8160@attbi_s01...
That is such a loaded question.

The democrats of course.


Nah, it'd be top posting republicans. After all, it's the republicans
who automatically follow whatever their leader tells them, and NEVER,
EVER question the party. That right there tells me that they, for the
most part, can't think for themselves.

I was surprised when Gould told me he did not want to discuss facts, but
wanted to discuss my opinion on who was less educated and who was using more
negative ads in getting out their message. I was surprised when Gould
wanted to argue the fact that just because Republicans have more formal
educated it does not prove they are more intelligent, because if they were
more intelligent they would be voting for Kerry. He wanted to dispute the
fact that those with more formal education were more inclined to become
informed voters, vs voting based upon 30 sec ads and quick sound bites and
strictly based upon party affiliation.

It shows that Gould has allowed the fact that it appears that Kerry will
lose to get the better of him and he is putting the blinder on very tight.


" jim--" wrote in message
...
They know they are going to lose. They are desperate. It is actually
quite funny to read their posts.


"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:dl_4d.149088$3l3.45521@attbi_s03...
Do you have any proof that " .. it's the republicans who automatically
follow whatever their leader tells them, and NEVER, EVER question the
party."

Do you have any proof that republicans follow their party line anymore
than the average democrats?
The facts show democrats on the average have less education than
republicans, are less successful financially than republicans, and are
less informed and educated on the current political issues than the
republicans. I have documented this proof with unbiased studies conducted
by colleges in an effort to understand US politics, not as an endorsement
of any party or candidate.

Like Gould, you are pulling crap out of your ass, and presenting it as
fact.

As far as my top posting, I do that because I use OE for a newsreader.
It is also very common for those affiliated with either party to top
post. Talk about someone grasping at straws.




"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:XzW4d.16060$He1.8160@attbi_s01...
That is such a loaded question.

The democrats of course.


Nah, it'd be top posting republicans. After all, it's the republicans
who automatically follow whatever their leader tells them, and NEVER,
EVER question the party. That right there tells me that they, for the
most part, can't think for themselves.

I was surprised when Gould
wanted to argue the fact that just because Republicans have more formal
educated it does not prove they are more intelligent, because if they were
more intelligent they would be voting for Kerry.

You really are a first class Republican, aren't you?

I never said, "if they were more intelligent they would be voting for Kerry."

But lack of factual base hasn't stopped anybody subscribing to your philosophy
from making phony charges, lately, has it?

If you have to make up crap to support one part of your argument, all the point
that depend on that one are crap as well.

He wanted to dispute the
fact that those with more formal education were more inclined to become
informed voters, vs voting based upon 30 sec ads and quick sound bites and
strictly based upon party affiliation.

That is your *opinion*, not a fact.

Another right wing trick: Anything you believe is a "fact", all that those who
disagree can claim is an "opinion".

(Gould 0738) wrote in message ...
Sounds like Bob Morris thinks God is a democrat and that God has smitten
those who vote incorrectly.



How could he be so wrong?

We all know that God is a Republican (according to Pat Roberts, Jerry Falwell,
etc) and that Satan, not God, will smite the US if it elects John Kerry. (Dick
Cheney).

I saw Falwell on tv last week talking about his new Christian based
law school. He's training lawyers in his sort of religion plus law so
they can go out and aggressively persue fundmentalist Christian
causes. That sure sounds like 10# of **** in a 5# bag. Taco Guy, don't
worry. Bob Morris is nuts, God is on your side.That's why George Jr.
consulted Him, instead of his dad, before he started this new war, and
that's why George Sr. consulted Billy Grahm before starting the old
war. What is happening in Florida is just random smiteing to keep the
masses worried and the tithes up to snuff. That could be where George
learned all he knows about fear mongering, which he is admittedly
pretty good at. Besides, I don't think it was incorrect voting so much
as political corruption that was the problem in Florida. I posted this
before, but maybe you missed it. It will give you a fairly good idea
of what's what concerning religion and politics.
http://www.landoverbabtist.org/

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message news:w1_4d.16703$He1.9901@attbi_s01...

About 36% of Republicans graduated from college while about 28% and 23% of
Independents and Democrats, respectively, graduated from college. About 59%
of Republicans made over $35,000 a year while only 50% and 35% of
Independents and Democrats, respectively, made over $35,000 a year.



"The state's Republicans are also wealthier than their Democratic and
Independent counterparts. Almost half (47%) of the Republicans surveyed
stated they had a household income of over $35,000, while 37% of
Independents and just under a third (31%) of the Democrats had incomes over
$35,000."


You equate money with intelligence. I've met a lot of "rich" people,
of both parties, that are quite stupid. I've met a lot of "poor"
people that are quite smart. Look at Bush, I believe he's pretty rich
and then on the other hand he's also pretty stupid. Then there's the
"old" money thing. If your parents are rich, your way can be pretty
well paved, a fast track to wealth through schooling and contacts that
on your own might never have happened, you were just lucky and
happened to pop out of the right womb. Just like Bush. On his own he's
incompetent, his dad's money and friends got him out of the numerous
holes he's dug for himself. Wealth can also be accumulated through a
lack of ethics, in the business world the final litmus test seems to
be legality, not morality. Rich folks,and according to you more
Republicans than others, seem to me to lean towards the IGMFY state of
mind, I got mine, **** you.

Sam wrote:
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message news:w1_4d.16703$He1.9901@attbi_s01...

About 36% of Republicans graduated from college while about 28% and 23% of
Independents and Democrats, respectively, graduated from college. About 59%
of Republicans made over $35,000 a year while only 50% and 35% of
Independents and Democrats, respectively, made over $35,000 a year.



"The state's Republicans are also wealthier than their Democratic and
Independent counterparts. Almost half (47%) of the Republicans surveyed
stated they had a household income of over $35,000, while 37% of
Independents and just under a third (31%) of the Democrats had incomes over
$35,000."


You equate money with intelligence. I've met a lot of "rich" people,
of both parties, that are quite stupid. I've met a lot of "poor"
people that are quite smart. Look at Bush, I believe he's pretty rich
and then on the other hand he's also pretty stupid. Then there's the
"old" money thing. If your parents are rich, your way can be pretty
well paved, a fast track to wealth through schooling and contacts that
on your own might never have happened, you were just lucky and
happened to pop out of the right womb. Just like Bush. On his own he's
incompetent, his dad's money and friends got him out of the numerous
holes he's dug for himself. Wealth can also be accumulated through a
lack of ethics, in the business world the final litmus test seems to
be legality, not morality. Rich folks,and according to you more
Republicans than others, seem to me to lean towards the IGMFY state of
mind, I got mine, **** you.


I saw a very good $3 bill last week with a photo of Dickless Cheney on
the front and that expression on the back. Seems to fit perfectly.

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

It was not my opinion it was a the result of a completely unbiased survey
that was not looking at the voting patterns of anyone they interviewed.
They really did not care if they voted for a democrat or a republican.

They asked them for their education level and than asked them questions to
determine how knowledgeable they were concerning the issues. They did not
care who they voted for and did not ask that question. I know you did not
read the survey because it disagreed with your preconceived ideas.

This survey which seems very logical showed that people with more formal
education were better informed than those who were not.

Now tell us how you determined that the Democrats were better educated and
relied less on slogans and sound bites.

You say that it is easy to find a survey that says anything you want. Find
one from a respected university that would agree with your outrageous
assumption. Hell, find any survey that would agree with your outrageous
assumptions.

You are upset because you made a comment that was incorrect and did not want
to see an independent survey that proved you wrong.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I was surprised when Gould
wanted to argue the fact that just because Republicans have more formal
educated it does not prove they are more intelligent, because if they were
more intelligent they would be voting for Kerry.

You really are a first class Republican, aren't you?

I never said, "if they were more intelligent they would be voting for
Kerry."

But lack of factual base hasn't stopped anybody subscribing to your
philosophy
from making phony charges, lately, has it?

If you have to make up crap to support one part of your argument, all the
point
that depend on that one are crap as well.

He wanted to dispute the
fact that those with more formal education were more inclined to become
informed voters, vs voting based upon 30 sec ads and quick sound bites and
strictly based upon party affiliation.

That is your *opinion*, not a fact.

Another right wing trick: Anything you believe is a "fact", all that those
who
disagree can claim is an "opinion".

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:9d65d.105627$MQ5.20916@attbi_s52...
It was not my opinion it was a the result of a completely unbiased survey
that was not looking at the voting patterns of anyone they interviewed.
They really did not care if they voted for a democrat or a republican.

They asked them for their education level and than asked them questions to
determine how knowledgeable they were concerning the issues. They did not
care who they voted for and did not ask that question. I know you did not
read the survey because it disagreed with your preconceived ideas.

This survey which seems very logical showed that people with more formal
education were better informed than those who were not.

Now tell us how you determined that the Democrats were better educated and
relied less on slogans and sound bites.

You say that it is easy to find a survey that says anything you want.
Find one from a respected university that would agree with your outrageous
assumption. Hell, find any survey that would agree with your outrageous
assumptions.

You are upset because you made a comment that was incorrect and did not
want to see an independent survey that proved you wrong.



That seems to be happening quite often with Chuck lately. And he seems to
have taken on a nastiness that he did not carry before. The last time this
happened he ended up taking a break from the NG for several months. Once he
returned he vowed to stay away from political discussions. That promise was
quickly broken.

He seems to be on the verge of another breakdown and I would suspect he will
make yet another break after Bush wins the election, returning some months
later with yet another promise to stay away from political discussions.

He has become as predictable as Krause.