genie, there is one hell of a difference. *if* you are able to make a living
using that A&E license you claim you have, you wold know the difference.

but neither is ever going to happen, is it gennei.

thank you hoary for confusing oil film with pressure oil. what a genius you
are. we are honored by your presence.


Even a fourteen year old hammer mechanic understands that the purpose
of pressure lubrication is to establish an oil film.......

Apparently you aren't competent enough mechanic to work on a
lawnmower.... now get out of those Speedos, put that hammer up, and
go back in the house....
--



Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillageinn.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC
is located.
http://www.southharbourvillageinn.linksysnet.com Real Time
Pictures at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats
at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

the question is not whether is runs, but rather how long it runs.

duh.


Date: 9/22/2004 1:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Garth Almgren wrote:
: Around 9/19/2004 10:32 PM, Calif Bill wrote:

: Well jaxass, how come cars have successfully run for years with straight
: weight? My Ford 351W in the boat calls for straight 30 weight.


: As does the Crusader 220 in my dad's Chris...


As does my OMC 3.8 liter (manufacturer recommends straight 30W).

b.

Ever wonder why no one here ever agrees with
anything you ATTEMPT to act like you know about?

nope. never wondered that all. I know the answer, as I stated below.

okay, be a dumb **** then. no skin off my teeth.

Jax, you are nothing short of an ignorant, bitter piece of ****, do
you know that? Ever wonder why you have no friends? THAT is the bitter
piece of **** part. Ever wonder why no one here ever agrees with
anything you ATTEMPT to act like you know about? THAT is the ignorant
part.

because 30w does not lube pressure oil bearings as quickly upon engine
startup
as does 5w-40. Not by a long shot. you can hear the difference, easily.

My point is Merc says to use 10w-30 OR 25W-40. (the only grades they sell)
30HD seems to be right in the middle.
Merc doesn't make 30HD and I suspect that has more to do with the recomendation
than anything.
I do know their 10W-30 is breaking down after 20 hours and I am losing oil
pressure. That is not a good thing.

Before you ask, no they don't have any answers ... I asked.

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
Ever wonder why no one here ever agrees with
anything you ATTEMPT to act like you know about?

nope. never wondered that all. I know the answer, as I stated below.

okay, be a dumb **** then. no skin off my teeth.

Jax, you are nothing short of an ignorant, bitter piece of ****, do
you know that? Ever wonder why you have no friends? THAT is the bitter
piece of **** part. Ever wonder why no one here ever agrees with
anything you ATTEMPT to act like you know about? THAT is the ignorant
part.







jax i think what bass is trying to say is stick to the topic/s and
leave the personal attacks at home, and unless you are an expert, dont
sprout at the mouth. we are all here to get or recieve help. i
followed your links, if that is indeed you in the photos you should
post with the maturity that you obviously have.

My point is Merc says to use 10w-30 OR 25W-40. (the only grades they sell)
30HD seems to be right in the middle.
Merc doesn't make 30HD and I suspect that has more to do with the
recomendation
than anything.

Merc doesn't make any oil, it merely repackages it (or more accurately, it has
it repackaged for them).

straight weight oils have not be recommended by major engine manufacturers (of
these kinds of engines) for a couple decades. multi grade oils were developed
to give better lubrication upon engine startup while still giving proper
lubrication at operating termps and loads.

bennie, deliberate stupidity gets the response it deserves.

Ever wonder why no one here ever agrees with
anything you ATTEMPT to act like you know about?

nope. never wondered that all. I know the answer, as I stated below.

okay, be a dumb **** then. no skin off my teeth.

Jax, you are nothing short of an ignorant, bitter piece of ****, do
you know that? Ever wonder why you have no friends? THAT is the bitter
piece of **** part. Ever wonder why no one here ever agrees with
anything you ATTEMPT to act like you know about? THAT is the ignorant
part.







jax i think what bass is trying to say is stick to the topic/s and
leave the personal attacks at home, and unless you are an expert, dont
sprout at the mouth. we are all here to get or recieve help. i
followed your links, if that is indeed you in the photos you should
post with the maturity that you obviously have.

Greg wrote:
because 30w does not lube pressure oil bearings as quickly upon engine
startup
as does 5w-40. Not by a long shot. you can hear the difference, easily.


My point is Merc says to use 10w-30 OR 25W-40. (the only grades they sell)
30HD seems to be right in the middle.
Merc doesn't make 30HD and I suspect that has more to do with the recomendation
than anything.
I do know their 10W-30 is breaking down after 20 hours and I am losing oil
pressure. That is not a good thing.

Before you ask, no they don't have any answers ... I asked.

I still wonder if my Atomic-2 engine would work better, or longer,
if the recommended 10w oil was replaced by 10-30?

My oil pressure goes from 20# cold to 7 or 8 when warmed up to the
"warm" range. I have no thermostat, so the engine is always working
'cool.' Plugs carbon up, I don't care, they are still cheaper than
gas and easily replaced, but my valve guides, piston tops, etc, are
all black, I suspect.

All I want is to get to and from a mooring with reliable backup if
the sailing or current puts me onto the nearby rocks, and the
occasional one day voyage sometimes under power as the times
require, to and from the cottage and the ramp.

Terry K

Merc doesn't make any oil, it merely repackages it (or more accurately, it
has
it repackaged for them).

Exactly why I wonder if all of the "automobile" advice applies to marine
outboards. This is oil made for the auto industry where the "starting" range is
0f or below to a normal operating temp of over 210f (what most auto thermostats
run).
That is an operational range of 200 degrees or so.
Outboards seldom start below 70f and it is closer to 80 most of the time here.
The thermostat is 120f.

I don't know about ya'll, but at 5F, or below,

It 5f or below I realize I have made a terrible vacation choice and I get my
ass below the 27th parallel as fast as possible.