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Aaron Bootz July 19th 03 02:58 AM

Towing Capacity
 
Well, guys, I have couple of questions about towing a boat. I am thinking
to buy a boat.

I have a 97 Nissan quest mini van which has 152HP with towing capacity of
3500lbs (on manual). It does have a trailer hitch for boat.

Thequestion is: is the Nissan Quest able to tow the boat? I am living in
mid-west so there is no mountain or anything. Many ppl told me that use a
mini van to tow a boat is a very bad idea. But I dont want to spend more
money on a new truck or SUV. How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow a
boat?

Thanks very much




Aaron Bootz July 19th 03 03:49 AM

Towing Capacity
 
Sorry, the boat i am trying to get is Larson 17ft, 2200lbs

"Aaron Bootz" wrote in message
...
Well, guys, I have couple of questions about towing a boat. I am thinking
to buy a boat.

I have a 97 Nissan quest mini van which has 152HP with towing capacity of
3500lbs (on manual). It does have a trailer hitch for boat.

Thequestion is: is the Nissan Quest able to tow the boat? I am living in
mid-west so there is no mountain or anything. Many ppl told me that use a
mini van to tow a boat is a very bad idea. But I dont want to spend more
money on a new truck or SUV. How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow

a
boat?

Thanks very much






Rich Stern July 19th 03 03:55 AM

Towing Capacity
 
How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow a
boat?


It should be fine. Check the oil more frequently, make sure you have the
transmission fluid changed according to the schedule.

Also, see if there is a transmission cooler installed. If not, have a local
shop do it. It's inexpensive.

2200lbs. is reasonable for that vehicle to tow. It will be pokey, you need to
be careful to allow plenty of space for stopping, but it should handle it just
fine.



-- Rich Stern
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noah July 19th 03 04:20 AM

Towing Capacity
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:58:18 GMT, "Aaron Bootz"
wrote:

Well, guys, I have couple of questions about towing a boat. I am thinking
to buy a boat.

I have a 97 Nissan quest mini van which has 152HP with towing capacity of
3500lbs (on manual). It does have a trailer hitch for boat.

Thequestion is: is the Nissan Quest able to tow the boat? I am living in
mid-west so there is no mountain or anything. Many ppl told me that use a
mini van to tow a boat is a very bad idea. But I dont want to spend more
money on a new truck or SUV. How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow a
boat?

Thanks very much



Aaron- a little more information would be helpful, like "what size
boat?". What size engine? Do you have the "tow package"? :o)

I regularly use a 4.0L Aerostar van to tow a 2000 lb. Starcraft, with
no problems. I use the same van to tow my camper to Maine every year,
with no problems. It's not a *big* tow vehicle, but I always smile
when it accelerates uphill to pass a truck.

Based strictly upon your information, you should be able to tow a
3,500 lb. boat/trailer combo, but I wouldn't push it to the upper
limits if it's a long tow.

noah

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See the boats of rec.boats
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noah July 19th 03 04:47 AM

Towing Capacity
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 03:30:04 GMT, "Tony Thomas"
wrote:

Your areostar is a rear wheel drive.
The Nissan is front wheel drive.
Big difference in the transmissions and gearing.


....actually, the Aerostar is 4 wheel drive..
noah

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Aaron Bootz July 19th 03 06:35 AM

Towing Capacity
 
Thanks very much for reply, noah. The boat i am trying to get is a Larson
SEi 180, 2150 lbs without trailer. I have no idea how much it will weigh
for trailer plus fuel everything etc. My Nissan is 3.0L 152 HP with towing
capacity of 3500 lbs.

Will it be good to the van if I drive slowly when towing the boat? or it
doesnt matter if you drive slow/fast?

Thanks again


"noah" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:58:18 GMT, "Aaron Bootz"
wrote:

Well, guys, I have couple of questions about towing a boat. I am

thinking
to buy a boat.

I have a 97 Nissan quest mini van which has 152HP with towing capacity of
3500lbs (on manual). It does have a trailer hitch for boat.

Thequestion is: is the Nissan Quest able to tow the boat? I am living in
mid-west so there is no mountain or anything. Many ppl told me that use

a
mini van to tow a boat is a very bad idea. But I dont want to spend more
money on a new truck or SUV. How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow

a
boat?

Thanks very much



Aaron- a little more information would be helpful, like "what size
boat?". What size engine? Do you have the "tow package"? :o)

I regularly use a 4.0L Aerostar van to tow a 2000 lb. Starcraft, with
no problems. I use the same van to tow my camper to Maine every year,
with no problems. It's not a *big* tow vehicle, but I always smile
when it accelerates uphill to pass a truck.

Based strictly upon your information, you should be able to tow a
3,500 lb. boat/trailer combo, but I wouldn't push it to the upper
limits if it's a long tow.

noah

Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats




noah July 19th 03 06:51 AM

Towing Capacity
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 05:35:37 GMT, "Aaron Bootz"
wrote:

Thanks very much for reply, noah. The boat i am trying to get is a Larson
SEi 180, 2150 lbs without trailer. I have no idea how much it will weigh
for trailer plus fuel everything etc. My Nissan is 3.0L 152 HP with towing
capacity of 3500 lbs.

Will it be good to the van if I drive slowly when towing the boat? or it
doesnt matter if you drive slow/fast?

Thanks again



Aaron- you will be at, or near, your maximum towing capacity. If it
was me, I would do it, and drive safely. It is often overlooked in
towing that stopping is more important than pulling. :o)

As long as you have a good hitch, and the boat/trailer combo does not
exceed 3,500, I would give it a try.

It is better to have a bigger, more powerful tow vehicle, but we can't
always do that....as long as you do not exceed the ratings, and drive
carefully, you should be OK.
noah



"noah" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:58:18 GMT, "Aaron Bootz"
wrote:

Well, guys, I have couple of questions about towing a boat. I am

thinking
to buy a boat.

I have a 97 Nissan quest mini van which has 152HP with towing capacity of
3500lbs (on manual). It does have a trailer hitch for boat.

Thequestion is: is the Nissan Quest able to tow the boat? I am living in
mid-west so there is no mountain or anything. Many ppl told me that use

a
mini van to tow a boat is a very bad idea. But I dont want to spend more
money on a new truck or SUV. How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow

a
boat?

Thanks very much



Aaron- a little more information would be helpful, like "what size
boat?". What size engine? Do you have the "tow package"? :o)

I regularly use a 4.0L Aerostar van to tow a 2000 lb. Starcraft, with
no problems. I use the same van to tow my camper to Maine every year,
with no problems. It's not a *big* tow vehicle, but I always smile
when it accelerates uphill to pass a truck.

Based strictly upon your information, you should be able to tow a
3,500 lb. boat/trailer combo, but I wouldn't push it to the upper
limits if it's a long tow.

noah

Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats




Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats

stingray240 July 19th 03 11:55 AM

Towing Capacity
 
In addition to adding a transmission cooler, make sure the boat
trailer has surge brakes, no one has mentioned stopping power on ly
"go" power.

One other important fact is that only the tow vehicle will have brakes
when backing down a steep/slick boat launch ramp!







On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:58:18 GMT, "Aaron Bootz"
wrote:

Well, guys, I have couple of questions about towing a boat. I am thinking
to buy a boat.

I have a 97 Nissan quest mini van which has 152HP with towing capacity of
3500lbs (on manual). It does have a trailer hitch for boat.

Thequestion is: is the Nissan Quest able to tow the boat? I am living in
mid-west so there is no mountain or anything. Many ppl told me that use a
mini van to tow a boat is a very bad idea. But I dont want to spend more
money on a new truck or SUV. How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow a
boat?

Thanks very much




Stu July 19th 03 02:12 PM

Towing Capacity
 
What about a weight distributing hitch for this problem? Draw-Tite makes the
claim in their catalog that my 2001 Chevy Venture LS with the towing package
would jump from 3500 lbs. capacity to 5000 lbs. with a weight distributing
hitch. This seems far fetched to me. Some of the tongue weight would go to
the front wheels, helping with traction and handling; but you still have to
start, stop and move the vehicle at speed, which seems to me to be putting the
same stress on the engine, transmission and drive train.

Regards,

Stu

The biggest concern I would have is your front wheel drive. If you get
2-300lbs toung weight you will unload your traction wheels. A few years
back I tried to pull a "pick-up bed" trailer with a fwd Taurus wagon, in the
rain and at 55mph with 70% gone tires, lost traction up the xway hills.
I've also seen fwd vehicles unable to pull a boat/trailer out of the water.
LD




Dan Krueger July 19th 03 05:33 PM

Towing Capacity
 
It looks and works like a small radiator. It routes the transmission
fluid through a series of tubes with cooling fins on the outside. It is
usually mounted in from of your car's radiator. You can also get oil
coolers and even power steering coolers. You can buy it but you might
want to have it installed unless you are mechanically inclined.

Dan


Aaron Bootz wrote:

What is Tranny oil cooler? Can I buy it from a auto-parts shop?

Thanx
"Ignoramus532" wrote in message
.com...


In article , Rich Stern


wrote:


How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow a
boat?


It should be fine. Check the oil more frequently, make sure you have


the


transmission fluid changed according to the schedule.

Also, see if there is a transmission cooler installed. If not, have a


local


shop do it. It's inexpensive.


Absolutely, tranny oil coolers are $100 or so and easy to
install. Definitely do it. Be careful when pulling the boat out of
water.

i



2200lbs. is reasonable for that vehicle to tow. It will be pokey, you


need to


be careful to allow plenty of space for stopping, but it should handle


it just


fine.



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www.mypontoon.com - The Pontoon Boat Web Site
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www.mysporttrac.com - The Sport Trac Web Site









Dan Krueger July 19th 03 05:38 PM

Towing Capacity
 
A weight distributing hitch won't increase a towing vehicle's maximum
capacity. Some ratings assume a WD hitch. Others list the capacity
with and without a WD hitch.

Here is a good source of information to check the towing capacity of
cars, truck, vans, and SUV's.

http://towrating.trailerboats.com/

You can omit the vehicle information and just enter the parameters for
the capacity and it will list all vehicles that fall into that range.
There are notes regarding fuel, WD hitches, auxiliary cooling systems, etc.

Dan


Stu wrote:

What about a weight distributing hitch for this problem? Draw-Tite makes the
claim in their catalog that my 2001 Chevy Venture LS with the towing package
would jump from 3500 lbs. capacity to 5000 lbs. with a weight distributing
hitch. This seems far fetched to me. Some of the tongue weight would go to
the front wheels, helping with traction and handling; but you still have to
start, stop and move the vehicle at speed, which seems to me to be putting the
same stress on the engine, transmission and drive train.

Regards,

Stu



The biggest concern I would have is your front wheel drive. If you get
2-300lbs toung weight you will unload your traction wheels. A few years
back I tried to pull a "pick-up bed" trailer with a fwd Taurus wagon, in the
rain and at 55mph with 70% gone tires, lost traction up the xway hills.
I've also seen fwd vehicles unable to pull a boat/trailer out of the water.
LD








Steve Barker July 19th 03 09:12 PM

Towing Capacity
 
You'll have a heck of a time on the ramps with that front wheel drive. And
don't plan on stopping it well. I'd advise you get a real tow vehicle and
save your live and possibly someone else's.


Remember, buy American. You are American afterall, right?
--
Steve
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"Aaron Bootz" wrote in message
...
Well, guys, I have couple of questions about towing a boat. I am thinking
to buy a boat.

I have a 97 Nissan quest mini van which has 152HP with towing capacity of
3500lbs (on manual). It does have a trailer hitch for boat.

Thequestion is: is the Nissan Quest able to tow the boat? I am living in
mid-west so there is no mountain or anything. Many ppl told me that use a
mini van to tow a boat is a very bad idea. But I dont want to spend more
money on a new truck or SUV. How bad will it be to use a mini van to tow

a
boat?

Thanks very much






Steve Barker July 19th 03 09:13 PM

Towing Capacity
 
Very few Aerostars were all wheel drive. Most all of them were rear wheel
drive.

--
Steve
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"noah" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 03:30:04 GMT, "Tony Thomas"
wrote:

Your areostar is a rear wheel drive.
The Nissan is front wheel drive.
Big difference in the transmissions and gearing.


...actually, the Aerostar is 4 wheel drive..
noah

Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats




Joe July 19th 03 10:08 PM

Towing Capacity
 

You'll have a heck of a time on the ramps with that front wheel drive.

And
don't plan on stopping it well. I'd advise you get a real tow vehicle and
save your live and possibly someone else's.


Remember, buy American. You are American afterall, right?
--
Steve


That's right, do yourself a favor and buy a Toyota Tundra, they are all made
in the US.

If you decide to buy a GM or Ford product, look very close at the sticker,
there is a good chance it was built in Canada, or Mexico.



Butch Ammon July 19th 03 10:26 PM

Towing Capacity
 
That's right, do yourself a favor and buy a Toyota Tundra, they are all made
in the US.

If you decide to buy a GM or Ford product, look very close at the sticker,
there is a good chance it was built in Canada, or Mexico.

HUH???

I just did what you said and went out to my new(er) 2000 Chevy Silverado. I
looked in the door jamb and it has the manufacturing date: 6/99 and has a neat
sticker that says Assembled in Ft. Wayne, Indiana and the sticker is in the
shape of Indiana and has a GM logo on it.

I know Toyota's rule. They kick a$$ compared to all the other makes/models. I
just can't own one. Maybe it's me, maybe I am a little too hardheaded, but I
still like the phrase, "Buy American - the job you save may be your own!".

Butch Ammon

Steve Barker July 19th 03 11:17 PM

Towing Capacity
 
Joe (the genius), there's an even better chance that it was built in KC or
Dearborn. And there's 100% chance the Toyota money will go to Japan.

get real man.
--
Steve
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"Joe" wrote in message
...

You'll have a heck of a time on the ramps with that front wheel drive.

And
don't plan on stopping it well. I'd advise you get a real tow vehicle

and
save your live and possibly someone else's.


Remember, buy American. You are American afterall, right?
--
Steve


That's right, do yourself a favor and buy a Toyota Tundra, they are all

made
in the US.

If you decide to buy a GM or Ford product, look very close at the sticker,
there is a good chance it was built in Canada, or Mexico.





Steve Barker July 19th 03 11:18 PM

Towing Capacity
 
Very good point Butch. Every foreign vehicle bought puts more Americans out
of work.

--
Steve
=======================
Remove the not dot from my address to abuse my email box
"Butch Ammon" wrote in message
...
That's right, do yourself a favor and buy a Toyota Tundra, they are all

made
in the US.

If you decide to buy a GM or Ford product, look very close at the sticker,
there is a good chance it was built in Canada, or Mexico.

HUH???

I just did what you said and went out to my new(er) 2000 Chevy Silverado.

I
looked in the door jamb and it has the manufacturing date: 6/99 and has a

neat
sticker that says Assembled in Ft. Wayne, Indiana and the sticker is in

the
shape of Indiana and has a GM logo on it.

I know Toyota's rule. They kick a$$ compared to all the other

makes/models. I
just can't own one. Maybe it's me, maybe I am a little too hardheaded,

but I
still like the phrase, "Buy American - the job you save may be your own!".

Butch Ammon




Joe July 19th 03 11:25 PM

Towing Capacity
 

"Steve Barker" wrote in message
...
Very good point Butch. Every foreign vehicle bought puts more Americans

out
of work.

--
Steve


What about buying a Ford F-150 that is built in Canada?
Doesn't this hurt the US worker more than buying a Toyota that's built here?

Maybe your just worried about where the profits go.
Oh, wait a second, I forgot, Ford has no profits



Butch Ammon July 20th 03 01:56 AM

Towing Capacity
 
Maybe your just worried about where the profits go.
Oh, wait a second, I forgot, Ford has no profits


OUCH... Then again, I see your point. My old beat up, banged up, (but has a
lot of character), beloved old '87 Ford Ranger @139,000 miles was listed by
Kelly Blue Book with a resale value of NONE!!!!! The 2.9L V6 could not handle
pulling a good sized boat anymore. It cried pulling my 2100lb old trihull out
of the water.

Butch Ammon

Rich Stern July 20th 03 02:45 AM

Towing Capacity
 
The boat i am trying to get is a Larson
SEi 180, 2150 lbs without trailer.


Oops, new info. I am changing my earlier opinion. The Nissan will be very
marginal for towing that package.


-- Rich Stern
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www.mypontoon.com - The Pontoon Boat Web Site
www.fishingreportdatabase.com - The Fishing Report Database
www.mysporttrac.com - The Sport Trac Web Site



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