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Doug Kanter September 17th 04 06:49 PM

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:D8F2d.1144$wV.435@attbi_s54...
Wally,
I find Gould be an enjoyable guy, even though we disagree on many issues.

I
know I would enjoy boating with him, drinking a beer or whatever, I would
just steer the conversation away from politics or religion.


Why? If you discussed such things with Chuck, you might learn something and
actually be able to answer questions more important than which way to wipe
your ass today.



Doug Kanter September 17th 04 06:55 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I had to smile at the portion of the story where the airline admits that

the
passenger calmed down as soon as he was reprimanded by the flight crew-

but the

pilot (probably a Republican), diverted the plane and had him arrested

anyway.

Speak against Bush and get kicked off a plane and arrested......and this

line
is a classic "Safety and security are our first priortities." Yep, better
arrest dissenters wherever they can be found- safety and security, you

know.

Wonder how the guy got so drunk on the plane in the first place? Couldn't

be
because the flight crew kept serving him?
If "safety and security" are your first priority, you don't keep selling

liquor
to an obnoxious drunk.


If the airline did their homework, they could've solved the problem in under
a minute. Husar's from Huntington Station. That's Long Island. I'm from Long
Island, originally. People from Long Island are loud and opinionated. It's
something in the water, I think. The only people I ever met there who were
NOT like that were lying in coffins at funerals, and even they were
opinionated, but quiet.

If the airline knew he was from L.I., they could've made peace using a few
feet of duct tape, and maybe a bitch slap from the air marshall. When it was
over, Husar would've thought the whole experience was fun - much better than
riding the Long Island Railroad late at night.



Harry Krause September 17th 04 06:56 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:D8F2d.1144$wV.435@attbi_s54...
Wally,
I find Gould be an enjoyable guy, even though we disagree on many issues.

I
know I would enjoy boating with him, drinking a beer or whatever, I would
just steer the conversation away from politics or religion.


Why? If you discussed such things with Chuck, you might learn something and
actually be able to answer questions more important than which way to wipe
your ass today.



Chuck is a class act, the antithesis of his detractors.

--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Taco Heaven September 17th 04 07:18 PM

He is the antithesis of Harry Krause that is for sure.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:D8F2d.1144$wV.435@attbi_s54...
Wally,
I find Gould be an enjoyable guy, even though we disagree on many
issues.

I
know I would enjoy boating with him, drinking a beer or whatever, I
would
just steer the conversation away from politics or religion.


Why? If you discussed such things with Chuck, you might learn something
and
actually be able to answer questions more important than which way to
wipe
your ass today.



Chuck is a class act, the antithesis of his detractors.

--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!




Q September 17th 04 08:07 PM

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:55:24 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

People from Long Island are loud and opinionated


No. You are definitely wrong! That's people from Chicago, like me,
that are loud and opinionated!

Got that?

--
Q

Harry Krause September 17th 04 08:18 PM

WaIIy wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:20:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

WaIIy wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:11:32 GMT, "Taco Heaven"
wrote:

Gould normally does not make wild accusations. I think Kerry's downhill
spiral is getting to him.


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message

......- but the
pilot (probably a Republican), diverted the plane and had him arrested
anyway.


Rank speculation to fit your premise, Chuck. C'mon - you're way to smart
for that.


Gould has turned into a troll. It's not worth the effort to sort
through his leftists diatribes looking for anything boat related.



And you were doing so well, Wally, until you fell for the latest John
Smith-Comcast sockpuppet.


Actually, no.

The endless political posts in this group are almost the death of it.



The number of non-boaters in here has proliferated, and most of the
non-boaters here are on your side of the political fence.

--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

P.Fritz September 17th 04 08:52 PM


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message

At the point where the guy was reprimanded by the flight crew and calmed

down,
the "security" issue was extinguished.


"...supervising senior crown attorney...said that when flight attendants
approached Husar, he became enraged, deliberately spilling a container of
alcohol and engaging in "the boisterous behavior of a drunk."... "

The crown attorney was not on the aircraft, but in all liklihood got his
account from the crew.

"...said Corona, adding that Husar quickly calmed down on the plane after
being reprimanded. "There was no threat or no violence. Certainly nobody

was
at risk safety-wise."..."

The defendant's attorney was not on the aircraft either, and was in no way
qualified to assess risk.


Isn't it amaziing how willingly the defense attorney 's excuse is accepted
by liebrals when it is one of their own.


Something p'd off the pilot enough to
divert the plane and have the guy arrested.


Not necessarily p'd off. I've sat in that pilot's seat in similar
circumstances, and I'll tell you, you do not let passengers set policy on
issues of safety. One warning, then they're off. Personal politics need
not have played a part, although you can presume so if you like.

Is this a normal response any time
somebody gets drunk on an airplane, discusses politics with a seat mate,

and
touches the knee of the person sitting next to him?


Now you're over-simplifying to make the event seem silly. Obvious
rhetorical trick. But when a person becomes an obnoxious disruption on
board, it may well be the proper response. It is the Captain's call.





John Gaquin September 17th 04 09:00 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message

you earlier posted......
I had to smile at the portion of the story where the airline admits that

the
passenger calmed down as soon as he was reprimanded by the flight crew


and then you just wrote.....
At the point where the guy was reprimanded by the flight crew and calmed

down,
the "security" issue was extinguished.


That's a point I forgot to query you on -- please indicate for me the
passage in the article that indicates that the passenger calmed down when
reprimanded, and also where the airline "admits" same. Note: I do not
accept the Defense Attorney's statement to the press as fact. My reading of
the article is that statements of those onboard the craft seem to indicate
that the passenger became *more* obstreperous when challenged by the cabin
crew, and only acted normally when parked beside an armed air marshall.



Harry Krause September 17th 04 11:10 PM

WaIIy wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:18:21 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

The number of non-boaters in here has proliferated, and most of the
non-boaters here are on your side of the political fence.


I don't disagree with you on that one.

My boat lunched an engine, so I'm out for the rest of the season.

That hurts.


Bad break. Do you know why...was it sudden onset?

--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!


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