( OT ) The "war is lost"
 

Sow the wind

"Jim" wrote in message
...
He describes the
religious imagery common now in Fallujah and the Sunni
triangle: "There's talk of angels and the prophet Mohammed
coming down from heaven to lead the fighting, talk of
martyrs whose bodies are glowing


Glowing bodies? Sounds like they're having premonitions of an impending
nuke attack.

What a bunch of whackos.

NOYB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
He describes the
religious imagery common now in Fallujah and the Sunni
triangle: "There's talk of angels and the prophet Mohammed
coming down from heaven to lead the fighting, talk of
martyrs whose bodies are glowing


Glowing bodies? Sounds like they're having premonitions of an impending
nuke attack.

What a bunch of whackos.



Well, I hope it doesn't happen, but, if it does...here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message

here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

Adding the caveat "I hope it doesn't happen..." won't protect you from the
Secret Service nor excuse you from the fact that you just said "here's my
suggestion" and then listed the "targeting parameters" for Bush's residence
in Crawford, Texas. You've really gone over the edge of stupidity on this
post, Krause. When (and if) they finally release you, let me know how
quickly the agents arrived at your door. Also, be sure to take down all of
your special anti-Bush homemade signs from your vehicle's windows...'cause
they certainly won't help your case when you're being "interviewed".

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

Adding the caveat "I hope it doesn't happen..." won't protect you from the
Secret Service nor excuse you from the fact that you just said "here's my
suggestion" and then listed the "targeting parameters" for Bush's
residence
in Crawford, Texas. You've really gone over the edge of stupidity on this
post, Krause. When (and if) they finally release you, let me know how
quickly the agents arrived at your door. Also, be sure to take down all
of
your special anti-Bush homemade signs from your vehicle's windows...'cause
they certainly won't help your case when you're being "interviewed".







I just sent a copy of this threat to the FBI along with information on Harry
Krause.

" jim--" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad
Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

Adding the caveat "I hope it doesn't happen..." won't protect you from
the
Secret Service nor excuse you from the fact that you just said "here's
my
suggestion" and then listed the "targeting parameters" for Bush's
residence
in Crawford, Texas. You've really gone over the edge of stupidity on
this
post, Krause. When (and if) they finally release you, let me know how
quickly the agents arrived at your door. Also, be sure to take down all
of
your special anti-Bush homemade signs from your vehicle's
windows...'cause
they certainly won't help your case when you're being "interviewed".







I just sent a copy of this threat to the FBI along with information on
Harry
Krause.

Now that's not nice. Nevertheless, I did just read a report that the Coast
Guard has an APB out directing all members in law enforcement to be on the
lookout for any and all imaginary Lobsta' boats in the Chesapeake Bay area.

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

" jim--" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad
Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

Adding the caveat "I hope it doesn't happen..." won't protect you from
the
Secret Service nor excuse you from the fact that you just said "here's
my
suggestion" and then listed the "targeting parameters" for Bush's
residence
in Crawford, Texas. You've really gone over the edge of stupidity on
this
post, Krause. When (and if) they finally release you, let me know how
quickly the agents arrived at your door. Also, be sure to take down
all
of
your special anti-Bush homemade signs from your vehicle's
windows...'cause
they certainly won't help your case when you're being "interviewed".







I just sent a copy of this threat to the FBI along with information on
Harry
Krause.

Now that's not nice. Nevertheless, I did just read a report that the
Coast
Guard has an APB out directing all members in law enforcement to be on the
lookout for any and all imaginary Lobsta' boats in the Chesapeake Bay
area.



Krause is not nice. Let's see him squirm now.

Well, I hope it doesn't happen, but, if it does...here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
{deleted}, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

There's no excuse for posting something like that, Harry. Ridiculously poor
taste.
You better hope your coordinates are off at least a little bit. I think when
you're down to 10ths of a second in both lat and long
you're certainly within the boundaries of an average residential lot- and
somebody could very reasonably begin wondering just where you came up with the
coordinates.

It's OK to wish him thrown out of office on his Texas butt, (as long as it is
accomplished lawfully and within the rules of the constitution). It's not OK to
wish him dead. Not at all.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Well, I hope it doesn't happen, but, if it does...here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
{deleted}, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

There's no excuse for posting something like that, Harry. Ridiculously
poor
taste.
You better hope your coordinates are off at least a little bit. I think
when
you're down to 10ths of a second in both lat and long
you're certainly within the boundaries of an average residential lot- and
somebody could very reasonably begin wondering just where you came up with
the
coordinates.

It's OK to wish him thrown out of office on his Texas butt, (as long as it
is
accomplished lawfully and within the rules of the constitution). It's not
OK to
wish him dead. Not at all.



Yep. And Krause scattered faster than a roach when the lights go on once
reading that I forwarded his post to the FBI. I also sent it to the Dept of
Homeland Security.

Old Krause is in deep dodo.

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:27:40 -0400, " jim--" wrote:

Krause is not nice. Let's see him squirm now.

Harry does not do Fox "News."

--
Q

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

Adding the caveat "I hope it doesn't happen..." won't protect you from the
Secret Service nor excuse you from the fact that you just said "here's my
suggestion" and then listed the "targeting parameters" for Bush's residence
in Crawford, Texas.

The GPS coordinates for Crawford, Texas, are available everywhere. As
for the specific coordinates for Bush's ranch, well, I don't know those,
nor am I interested in them. The American people should be interested in
the fact that the POTUS entertains Saudi princes on his ranch.





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Gould 0738 wrote:
Well, I hope it doesn't happen, but, if it does...here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
{deleted}, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

There's no excuse for posting something like that, Harry. Ridiculously poor
taste.
You better hope your coordinates are off at least a little bit. I think when
you're down to 10ths of a second in both lat and long

They're simply the coordinates my Microsoft map program turned up when I
asked for the coordinates of Crawford, Texas. I have no idea where the
Bush ranch is in relation to downtown Crawford.

Here's another set: 38.88425W x 77,03889W.

You think it is anything more than an extraordinarily trivial task to
locate coordinates? The ones I posted will put you in the middle of the
Tidal Basin.

Why would anyone think such information is secret?



It's OK to wish him thrown out of office on his Texas butt, (as long as it is
accomplished lawfully and within the rules of the constitution). It's not OK to
wish him dead. Not at all.


I thought you were a more careful reader. I prefaced my remark by
stating that I hope it doesn't happen, but...*if* we are attacked again,
I certainly hope it is in Bush Country. Why should those of us in NY or
DC have to pay the price *again* for Bush's incompetency?










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Q wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:27:40 -0400, " jim--" wrote:

Krause is not nice. Let's see him squirm now.

Harry does not do Fox "News."

--
Q

I'm worse than that. Sometimes I handle the media for clients...if
questions come from Faux News or the Washington Times, I usually advise
the client not to respond in any way.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad
Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

Adding the caveat "I hope it doesn't happen..." won't protect you from
the
Secret Service nor excuse you from the fact that you just said "here's
my
suggestion" and then listed the "targeting parameters" for Bush's
residence
in Crawford, Texas.

The GPS coordinates for Crawford, Texas, are available everywhere. As
for the specific coordinates for Bush's ranch, well, I don't know those,
nor am I interested in them. The American people should be interested in
the fact that the POTUS entertains Saudi princes on his ranch.


The topic was about nukes. If you provide GPS coordinates for an area in
Crawford, and then suggest that terrorists use those coordinates as
"targeting parameters" if they should attack us, does it matter if you were
off by a few miles? Methinks not. I doubt Secret Service would think so
either.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
Well, I hope it doesn't happen, but, if it does...here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
{deleted}, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

There's no excuse for posting something like that, Harry. Ridiculously
poor
taste.
You better hope your coordinates are off at least a little bit. I think
when
you're down to 10ths of a second in both lat and long

They're simply the coordinates my Microsoft map program turned up when I
asked for the coordinates of Crawford, Texas. I have no idea where the
Bush ranch is in relation to downtown Crawford.

Does it matter? The topic was about nukes...which are not exactly
considered precision weaponry.



Here's another set: 38.88425W x 77,03889W.

You think it is anything more than an extraordinarily trivial task to
locate coordinates? The ones I posted will put you in the middle of the
Tidal Basin.

You're correct...it's not hard to locate coordinates. But it is illegal to
suggest that terrorists use those coordinates as "targeting parameters"
should they obtain nukes...since doing so can be construed as a threat on
the life of the US President.





Why would anyone think such information is secret?



It's OK to wish him thrown out of office on his Texas butt, (as long as
it is
accomplished lawfully and within the rules of the constitution). It's
not OK to
wish him dead. Not at all.


I thought you were a more careful reader. I prefaced my remark by
stating that I hope it doesn't happen, but...*if* we are attacked again,
I certainly hope it is in Bush Country.

No, actually you said that if we are attacked again, then you'd "suggest"
that the terrorists use the GPS coordinates of Crawford, Texas as "targeting
parameters". Bad, bad choice on your part.

" jim--" wrote in message
...



Yep. And Krause scattered faster than a roach when the lights go on once
reading that I forwarded his post to the FBI. I also sent it to the Dept
of
Homeland Security.

Old Krause is in deep dodo.


Well...aren't you the little tattletale! Will you get the secret decoder
ring for this service to your country.

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad
Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

Adding the caveat "I hope it doesn't happen..." won't protect you from
the
Secret Service nor excuse you from the fact that you just said "here's
my
suggestion" and then listed the "targeting parameters" for Bush's
residence
in Crawford, Texas.

The GPS coordinates for Crawford, Texas, are available everywhere. As
for the specific coordinates for Bush's ranch, well, I don't know those,
nor am I interested in them. The American people should be interested in
the fact that the POTUS entertains Saudi princes on his ranch.


The topic was about nukes. If you provide GPS coordinates for an area in
Crawford, and then suggest that terrorists use those coordinates as
"targeting parameters" if they should attack us, does it matter if you were
off by a few miles? Methinks not. I doubt Secret Service would think so
either.


If I provide?

What a giggle.

You think the GPS coordinates of Bush's fake ranch in Crawford are
unknown to Moslem terrorists? Hell, they visit there as Bush's guests.

Don't you have a PC mapping program, like Microsoft Streets or one of
DeLorme's products?

Don't you have a GPS?

Do you think the GPS coordinates of most US cities are a mystery to
terrorists? Do you think terrorists don't have the coin to buy GPS
receivers and mapping programs?

Do you see where four years of Bush has gotten us?


Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
Well, I hope it doesn't happen, but, if it does...here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
{deleted}, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

There's no excuse for posting something like that, Harry. Ridiculously
poor
taste.
You better hope your coordinates are off at least a little bit. I think
when
you're down to 10ths of a second in both lat and long

They're simply the coordinates my Microsoft map program turned up when I
asked for the coordinates of Crawford, Texas. I have no idea where the
Bush ranch is in relation to downtown Crawford.

Does it matter? The topic was about nukes...which are not exactly
considered precision weaponry.



Here's another set: 38.88425W x 77,03889W.

You think it is anything more than an extraordinarily trivial task to
locate coordinates? The ones I posted will put you in the middle of the
Tidal Basin.

You're correct...it's not hard to locate coordinates. But it is illegal to
suggest that terrorists use those coordinates as "targeting parameters"
should they obtain nukes...since doing so can be construed as a threat on
the life of the US President.





Why would anyone think such information is secret?



It's OK to wish him thrown out of office on his Texas butt, (as long as
it is
accomplished lawfully and within the rules of the constitution). It's
not OK to
wish him dead. Not at all.


I thought you were a more careful reader. I prefaced my remark by
stating that I hope it doesn't happen, but...*if* we are attacked again,
I certainly hope it is in Bush Country.

No, actually you said that if we are attacked again, then you'd "suggest"
that the terrorists use the GPS coordinates of Crawford, Texas as "targeting
parameters". Bad, bad choice on your part.




As opposed to NYC or DC? You bet. Find some other place,
terrorists...we've taken our hits already.

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And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

here's my
suggestion...the targeting parameters should be in the vicinity of
31,53323N, 97.44521W, but only at the proper moment, when the Mad
Kowboy
and his Saudi buddies are present.

Adding the caveat "I hope it doesn't happen..." won't protect you from
the
Secret Service nor excuse you from the fact that you just said "here's
my
suggestion" and then listed the "targeting parameters" for Bush's
residence
in Crawford, Texas.

The GPS coordinates for Crawford, Texas, are available everywhere. As
for the specific coordinates for Bush's ranch, well, I don't know those,
nor am I interested in them. The American people should be interested in
the fact that the POTUS entertains Saudi princes on his ranch.


The topic was about nukes. If you provide GPS coordinates for an area in
Crawford, and then suggest that terrorists use those coordinates as
"targeting parameters" if they should attack us, does it matter if you
were
off by a few miles? Methinks not. I doubt Secret Service would think so
either.


If I provide?

What a giggle.

You think the GPS coordinates of Bush's fake ranch in Crawford are
unknown to Moslem terrorists? Hell, they visit there as Bush's guests.

Don't you have a PC mapping program, like Microsoft Streets or one of
DeLorme's products?

Don't you have a GPS?

Do you think the GPS coordinates of most US cities are a mystery to
terrorists? Do you think terrorists don't have the coin to buy GPS
receivers and mapping programs?

Do you see where four years of Bush has gotten us?



If I were you Harry I would shut up and get a lawyer. You have threatened
the POTUS.

"Don White" wrote in message
...

" jim--" wrote in message
...



Yep. And Krause scattered faster than a roach when the lights go on once
reading that I forwarded his post to the FBI. I also sent it to the Dept
of
Homeland Security.

Old Krause is in deep dodo.


Well...aren't you the little tattletale! Will you get the secret decoder
ring for this service to your country.



Sorry Don but the security of my Country comes before anything else in this
NG.

A direct threat was made, I reported it.

Don't like it? Tough.

Don White wrote:
" jim--" wrote in message
...



Yep. And Krause scattered faster than a roach when the lights go on once
reading that I forwarded his post to the FBI. I also sent it to the Dept
of
Homeland Security.

Old Krause is in deep dodo.


Well...aren't you the little tattletale! Will you get the secret decoder
ring for this service to your country.




Ahhh. Poor dumb Dennis-Jim. Now you know why he's in my bozo bin.


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