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OT Bush still afraid to publicly debate Kerry?
I wonder why BushCo is so afraid to debate Kerry?
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I wonder why BushCo is so afraid to debate Kerry?
Also: Bad strategic move. The Repubs have spent most of their campaign money and energy smearing Kerry, and with no small amount of success. Most of the people in the country have a badly distorted image of Bush's opponent. A debate would undo a lot of what the right wing has "accomplished" so far. If Kerry loses this deal, it will be because the right wing spent more money and energy telling the American public who John Satan Kerry is than Kerry was able to. Kerry has been defined by the opposition- often a losing position in any game. Bush is not a good speaker, (to put it kindly). He would look like the daily dufous trying to find and correctly pronounce the words he would need to answer questions from a panel. If you were Bush, why would you submit to a direct, head to head comparison to Kerry? Kerry would have nothing to lose, Bush would have nothing to gain. As long as hate, fear, distrust, and stupidity are more common human currencies than enlightened discourse and issues oriented discussions, Bush and his ilk will continue to communicate through propaganda- not a civil debate. |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I wonder why BushCo is so afraid to debate Kerry? Also: Bad strategic move. The Repubs have spent most of their campaign money and energy smearing Kerry, snip OMG, I have never read anything funnier. |
" jim--" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I wonder why BushCo is so afraid to debate Kerry? Also: Bad strategic move. The Repubs have spent most of their campaign money and energy smearing Kerry, snip OMG, I have never read anything funnier. Once again, the socialist liebrals whine about others doing the very thing they are guilty of. |
Gould 0738 wrote:
As long as hate, fear, distrust, and stupidity are more common human currencies than enlightened discourse and issues oriented discussions, Bush and his ilk will continue to communicate through propaganda- not a civil debate. I have yet to figure out why the American public has given Bush a pass for the last four years. He has utterly failed as President. In almost every way that matters, the country is worse off than it was four years ago. Yet the smirking idiot gets up there in his controlled appearances, says nothing, mangles the language, and half of America loves him. Perhaps half the country is as stupid as he is...and therefore they identify with the simple-minded Bush puppet. -- Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal! And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to! |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I wonder why BushCo is so afraid to debate Kerry? Also: Bad strategic move. The Repubs have spent most of their campaign money and energy smearing Kerry, and with no small amount of success. Most of the people in the country have a badly distorted image of Bush's opponent. A debate would undo a lot of what the right wing has "accomplished" so far. If Kerry loses this deal, it will be because the right wing spent more money and energy telling the American public who John Satan Kerry is than Kerry was able to. Kerry has been defined by the opposition- often a losing position in any game. Bush is not a good speaker, (to put it kindly). He would look like the daily dufous trying to find and correctly pronounce the words he would need to answer questions from a panel. If you were Bush, why would you submit to a direct, head to head comparison to Kerry? Kerry would have nothing to lose, Bush would have nothing to gain. As long as hate, fear, distrust, and stupidity are more common human currencies than enlightened discourse and issues oriented discussions, Bush and his ilk will continue to communicate through propaganda- not a civil debate. I agree, except the Dem's have spent most of their money smearing Bush. We still do not have Kerry saying I was a great Senator for 20 years, showing leadership, etc. We are screwed by the Dem's running idiot, incompetents also. |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I wonder why BushCo is so afraid to debate Kerry? Also: Bad strategic move. The Repubs have spent most of their campaign money and energy smearing Kerry, and with no small amount of success. Most of the people in the country have a badly distorted image of Bush's opponent. A debate would undo a lot of what the right wing has "accomplished" so far. If Kerry loses this deal, it will be because the right wing spent more money and energy telling the American public who John Satan Kerry is than Kerry was able to. Kerry has been defined by the opposition- often a losing position in any game. Bush is not a good speaker, (to put it kindly). He would look like the daily dufous trying to find and correctly pronounce the words he would need to answer questions from a panel. Contrary to low expectations going in, Bush out-debated Ann Richards, and he out-debated Al Gore. He'll beat Kerry because Kerry will come across as a high-brow elitest and alienate the common man swing voter. In today's day and age, you try to appeal to the middle 20%...and that's the group that votes by the seat of their pants...many times voting simply for the candidate that is "more likeable". More people like Bush. Kerry has virtually no appeal to people who don't identify themselves as staunch Democrats. The irony is that the subject matter and each candidates answers probably won't matter. Kerry's better grasp of the English language may actually work against him by alienating the average joe that makes up the middle 20%. |
NOYB wrote:
In today's day and age, you try to appeal to the middle 20%...and that's the group that votes by the seat of their pants...many times voting simply for the candidate that is "more likeable". Republicans appeal to the lowest common denominator. Bush is about as low as you can go, in terms of ability, intellect, and getting along with others. He's a scumball. But America seems to be heading towards the gutter, so perhaps it is fitting, eh? A hundred years from now, or even 50, Arabic will be the native language here, and its rise will be traced to the failures of George W. Bush. -- Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal! And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to! |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Gould 0738 wrote: As long as hate, fear, distrust, and stupidity are more common human currencies than enlightened discourse and issues oriented discussions, Bush and his ilk will continue to communicate through propaganda- not a civil debate. I have yet to figure out why the American public has given Bush a pass for the last four years. It's because your party just doesn't get it. Kerry's campaign has decided to ignore each candidate's record while in public office, and make this election about each candidate's life from 30 years ago. Whoever made that decision is a blooming idiot. But I guess that's what you do when you know that you can't run on a 20 year voting record in the Senate that establishes you as the most left-wing elected official in the country. No matter how bad you paint Bush's 4 years as President, people like the decisions he's made...and don't like the way Kerry voted in opposition to those decisions. Kerry doesn't have a prayer in November. I gu |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Gould 0738 wrote: As long as hate, fear, distrust, and stupidity are more common human currencies than enlightened discourse and issues oriented discussions, Bush and his ilk will continue to communicate through propaganda- not a civil debate. I have yet to figure out why the American public has given Bush a pass for the last four years. It's because your party just doesn't get it. Kerry's campaign has decided to ignore each candidate's record while in public office, and make this election about each candidate's life from 30 years ago. Whoever made that decision is a blooming idiot. But I guess that's what you do when you know that you can't run on a 20 year voting record in the Senate that establishes you as the most left-wing elected official in the country. No matter how bad you paint Bush's 4 years as President, people like the decisions he's made...and don't like the way Kerry voted in opposition to those decisions. Kerry doesn't have a prayer in November. Lets just hope the socilaist liebral continue their arrogant attitude that they know better than everyone else.....it will result in conservatives being elected more and more. I gu |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: In today's day and age, you try to appeal to the middle 20%...and that's the group that votes by the seat of their pants...many times voting simply for the candidate that is "more likeable". Republicans appeal to the lowest common denominator. Both sides appeal to the lowest common denominator. We target the religious zealots and bigots...and you guys target the social deviants and immoral hedonists. |
"P.Fritz" wrote in message ... " jim--" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I wonder why BushCo is so afraid to debate Kerry? Also: Bad strategic move. The Repubs have spent most of their campaign money and energy smearing Kerry, snip OMG, I have never read anything funnier. Once again, the socialist liebrals whine about others doing the very thing they are guilty of. Here we go again! What's a socialist? If you're going to use the word constantly (and, I might add, erroneously), you may as well tell us what you think it means. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... A hundred years from now, or even 50, Arabic will be the native language here, and its rise will be traced to the failures of George W. Bush. What in the world are you talking about? Are you suggesting that the Muslim world will overthrow our government? Are you suggesting that so many Arabs speaking individuals will move to the US that they will be able to vote for a new official language? Or are you just making a joke? |
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message news:kf02d.196792$mD.57069@attbi_s02... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... A hundred years from now, or even 50, Arabic will be the native language here, and its rise will be traced to the failures of George W. Bush. What in the world are you talking about? Are you suggesting that the Muslim world will overthrow our government? Are you suggesting that so many Arabs speaking individuals will move to the US that they will be able to vote for a new official language? Or are you just making a joke? harry is just a simple union hack, with little understanding of the real world. He lives in a fantasy world where he owns a 36 ft lobsta boat and his social worker wife is a doctor doctor. |
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:13:55 +0000, NOYB wrote:
The irony is that the subject matter and each candidates answers probably won't matter. Kerry's better grasp of the English language may actually work against him by alienating the average joe that makes up the middle 20%. Sad, isn't it? If being a likable lug is all it takes to be POTUS, this democracy isn't working. Hell, if this Presidential race has turned into a popularity contest, I'm going to vote for Michelle Pfeiffer. At least I'll pay attention during any news conferences. |
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:32:11 +0000, NOYB wrote:
Both sides appeal to the lowest common denominator. We target the religious zealots and bigots...and you guys target the social deviants and immoral hedonists. Begs the question. which are you? A religious zealot, or a bigot? ;-) |
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:34:52 -0400, P.Fritz wrote:
Lets just hope the socilaist liebral continue their arrogant attitude that they know better than everyone else.....it will result in conservatives being elected more and more. Bush is a conservative? Dream on. |
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:32:11 +0000, NOYB wrote: Both sides appeal to the lowest common denominator. We target the religious zealots and bigots...and you guys target the social deviants and immoral hedonists. Begs the question. which are you? A religious zealot, or a bigot? ;-) I'm the "we"...as in "we target..." |
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:13:55 +0000, NOYB wrote: The irony is that the subject matter and each candidates answers probably won't matter. Kerry's better grasp of the English language may actually work against him by alienating the average joe that makes up the middle 20%. Sad, isn't it? If being a likable lug is all it takes to be POTUS, this democracy isn't working. Hell, if this Presidential race has turned into a popularity contest, I'm going to vote for Michelle Pfeiffer. At least I'll pay attention during any news conferences. Is Pfeiffer a Republican or a Democrat? |
NOBBY wrote:
Both sides appeal to the lowest common denominator. We target the religious zealots and bigots...and you guys target the social deviants and immoral hedonists. thunder wrote: Begs the question. which are you? A religious zealot, or a bigot? ;-) Why can't he be both? Actually, if you pay a little attention, NOBBY has unmasked himself a couple of times as a Communist agitator. DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message . .. NOBBY wrote: Both sides appeal to the lowest common denominator. We target the religious zealots and bigots...and you guys target the social deviants and immoral hedonists. thunder wrote: Begs the question. which are you? A religious zealot, or a bigot? ;-) Why can't he be both? Actually, if you pay a little attention, NOBBY has unmasked himself a couple of times as a Communist agitator. Which would make me a socially immoral hedonistic deviant...like many of the left-wing mutants here on rec.boats. |
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:07:00 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:13:55 +0000, NOYB wrote: The irony is that the subject matter and each candidates answers probably won't matter. Kerry's better grasp of the English language may actually work against him by alienating the average joe that makes up the middle 20%. Sad, isn't it? If being a likable lug is all it takes to be POTUS, this democracy isn't working. Hell, if this Presidential race has turned into a popularity contest, I'm going to vote for Michelle Pfeiffer. At least I'll pay attention during any news conferences. Is Pfeiffer a Republican or a Democrat? She is the Walrus. Koo Koo Ka Choo... Later, Tom |
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