OT Question about BushCo Convention
 

Stop changing the subject. Tell us how Clinton got that national debt down
to
zero, nada, nothing by the end of his term.

CONGRESS reduced the BUDGET DEFICIT to zero (actually, a surplus) by 1999,
by fostering the largest tax increase in history in the mid 90's, combined
with the economic effects of the "tech boom" of the late 90's. The NATIONAL
DEBT has grown every year since WW2. Had the economy been juiced even
further by tax cuts, the resulting GNP increase would have led to even more
tax revenues, more cash flow for consumers, and a longer term economic
recovery vis-a-vis the national debt.

As an aside, the tech bubble (which was fostered by unethical business
dealings and false earnings statements.... I guess Clinton was a great role
model for corporate responsibility) began to burst in early 2000,
(how..errr...convenient for the Dems) and the subsequent recession was then
inevitable, no matter who was President. BTW- Presidents don't set the
budget- Congress does. Presidents who are given a LINE ITEM VETO would do
much to reduce Congress' wasteful spending and irrelevant allocation
attachments to otherwise good bills.

CONGRESS is your culprit regarding budget deficits, kids.

* Extra points question- Who won the party majority in Congress in '94 ? Who
bit the bullet, reigned in spending, and helped to get that budget deficit
into the surplus column? Anyone?

* Answer- Republicans

*Study question- who can name a Democratic congress in the last 100 years
that has reduced, or even held steady, spending. Anyone?

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:44:11 +0000, Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:


BTW- Presidents don't set
the budget- Congress does. Presidents who are given a LINE ITEM VETO would
do much to reduce Congress' wasteful spending and irrelevant allocation
attachments to otherwise good bills.

Didn't pass high school civics? Presidents do set the budget. They
submit them to Congress, who then appropriates the money. A line item
veto was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, meaning it would
take a Constitutional Amendment to reinstate it. The Constitution has
provided us a stability and heritage that has lasted 250 years, why is it
that Republicans find it inadequate? Line item vetoes, gay marriages,
term limits, prayer in the schools, abortion prohibition, balanced budget,
....

CONGRESS is your culprit regarding budget deficits, kids.

You overlook the President's signature. It is needed.

* Extra points question- Who won the party majority in Congress in '94 ?
Who bit the bullet, reigned in spending, and helped to get that budget
deficit into the surplus column? Anyone?

* Answer- Republicans

I believe they are still in the majority in Congress. Notice anything on
this graph?

http://lilt.ilstu.edu/gmklass/pos138...budgetbill.jpg

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:44:11 +0000, Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:


BTW- Presidents don't set
the budget- Congress does. Presidents who are given a LINE ITEM VETO
would
do much to reduce Congress' wasteful spending and irrelevant allocation
attachments to otherwise good bills.

Didn't pass high school civics? Presidents do set the budget. They
submit them to Congress, who then appropriates the money. A line item
veto was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, meaning it would
take a Constitutional Amendment to reinstate it. The Constitution has
provided us a stability and heritage that has lasted 250 years, why is it
that Republicans find it inadequate? Line item vetoes, gay marriages,
term limits, prayer in the schools, abortion prohibition, balanced budget,
...

CONGRESS is your culprit regarding budget deficits, kids.

You overlook the President's signature. It is needed.

* Extra points question- Who won the party majority in Congress in '94 ?
Who bit the bullet, reigned in spending, and helped to get that budget
deficit into the surplus column? Anyone?

* Answer- Republicans

I believe they are still in the majority in Congress. Notice anything on
this graph?

http://lilt.ilstu.edu/gmklass/pos138...budgetbill.jpg




I guess you did not pass high school civics with flying colors. The
President submits a proposed budget! The Congress passes whatever spending
bills it wants. The Presidents proposed budget means nothing. Worse thing
that happened to the USA was the impeachment of Nixon. Until then the rules
required an amendment to a bill to be germane to the bill. Part of the
Nixon deal scraped that rule. So the Congress got to add lots of pork to
must pass bills. In the former times, the Executive Branch kept some of the
overspending in check by not spending the money allocated by Congress. Then
Congress got a court ruling that the President and his Executive branch had
to spend any money allocated. IS the major reason why the poverty level in
this country has risen from about $5000 in 1979 to $18,750 in 2004. Way to
much pork and overspending.