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Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I'd say he does...or you must not think very highly of Yale and Harvard. Don't confuse education with intelligence. Education will develop intelligence, but it cannot bring fruit from a sterile field. Daddy could have bought a degree for Jr. from any school in the country. At least he picked presitgious schools. Bush actually *may* be reasonably intelligent in some apsects. Intelligence has many facets. Whatever his other skills might be, even the most devout apologist has to admit that Bush's *verbal* IQ WTF is a "verbal IQ"? It sounds like nothing more than a term you invented so that you can make yourself sound smart...and make Bush sound not so smart. It's Bush who makes himself sound "not so smart." My apologies to Chuck. After some reading, apparently there are tests to evaluate verbal IQ...as there are tests to evaluate non-verbal IQ. They are two distinct entities...and the score one does not necessarily correlate with the score on the other. A score of 100, which is where Chuck assumes Bush would fall, is where the average person falls. http://www.highiqsociety.org/common/iqtests/verbal.htm |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... After Yale, Bush applied to a third-rate law school in Texas. There is no limit to the depth of your lies. Got any proof of this allegation, Harry? It's been reported, verified and re-reported dozens of times. The information is out there...if you are that curious, you'll find it. -- Email sent to is never read. |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I'd say he does...or you must not think very highly of Yale and Harvard. Don't confuse education with intelligence. Education will develop intelligence, but it cannot bring fruit from a sterile field. Daddy could have bought a degree for Jr. from any school in the country. At least he picked presitgious schools. Bush actually *may* be reasonably intelligent in some apsects. Intelligence has many facets. Whatever his other skills might be, even the most devout apologist has to admit that Bush's *verbal* IQ WTF is a "verbal IQ"? It sounds like nothing more than a term you invented so that you can make yourself sound smart...and make Bush sound not so smart. It's Bush who makes himself sound "not so smart." My apologies to Chuck. After some reading, apparently there are tests to evaluate verbal IQ...as there are tests to evaluate non-verbal IQ. They are two distinct entities...and the score one does not necessarily correlate with the score on the other. A score of 100, which is where Chuck assumes Bush would fall, is where the average person falls. http://www.highiqsociety.org/common/iqtests/verbal.htm Bush is average in most ways, to be sure, but his verbal skills and speaking ability just plain suck. -- Email sent to is never read. |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
I'm sure a google search will link to about 1000 anti-Bush webpages, and
each will recite the lie as truth...just as you did. I *am* curious if you have any *decent* sources to verify your claim, however. My search came up empty...and I'm sure yours will too. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... After Yale, Bush applied to a third-rate law school in Texas. There is no limit to the depth of your lies. Got any proof of this allegation, Harry? It's been reported, verified and re-reported dozens of times. The information is out there...if you are that curious, you'll find it. -- Email sent to is never read. |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
Harry Krause wrote:
NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... After Yale, Bush applied to a third-rate law school in Texas. There is no limit to the depth of your lies. Got any proof of this allegation, Harry? It's been reported, verified and re-reported dozens of times. The information is out there...if you are that curious, you'll find it. Here's a quickie I found in two seconds of searching; I've seen much better references to this failure, though: he Starr Report: October 12, 1999 Despite Yale diploma, George W. was rejected by U of Texas Law School By Linda L. Starr George Dumbya Bush was rejected by the University of Texas Law School in 1973 after he had supposedly graduated from Yale, an Ivy League school! How can this be true when at the time his father was the congressman from Houston? Is this more rumor-mongering by liberals out to besmirch the Golden Boy of the GOP? No, his own mother was quoted in an interview with Skip Hollandsworth as saying, "I think that got under his skin a litle bit, because I don't think he was used to not doing what he wanted to do." when asked about the rejection. According to Clayton Day, Jr., one of his Yale classmates "He went there for the same reason a lot of us did. I had a lot of degrees, but I couldn't do anything. It was like trade school." That is a pretty sad commentary to explain a wasted education at Yale. How many people could go there, come out with a degree, and not be able to do anything with it? This makes me question Dumbya's whole new ideology about quality of education based on money invested, as he claims with his plan for a voucher program. If these rules he wants to apply to our nations' youth, had been applied to him, he would find himself a common beggar with his cup held out to strangers for survival money. He certainly has not practiced the lectures he preaches to the common working poor. He apparently feels he is above the rules of society all of us must accept and adopt for our everyday living. According to another Bush friend, Doug Hannah -- son of real estate developer turned space rocket entrepreneur David Hannah -- Dumbya was pretty cavalier in his 20s about girlfriends and drinking. When his younger brother Marvin was just 15, Dumbya took him out drinking and partying. Upon running over a neighbor's trash can on the way home, father Bush called him into the den to discuss what happened, Dumbya challenged "You want to go mano a mano right here?" Terrific family morals exhibited here especially since Barbara states there was no need to question Dumbya's behavior back then. Then when Dumbya ran for Congress in 1978 against Kent Hance, he had his first education in opposing the Christian Coalition. According to Patricia Kilday Hart's article on Dumbya, he came under attack in the University Daily, a Texas Tech student newspaper, for promising free beer at a Bush campaign rally. "Mr. Bush has used some of his vast sums of money...to persuade young college students to vote for and support him by offering free alcohol [to] them," wrote Lubbock attorney George Thompson III. Thompson in conclusion deduced that Bush's virtues "do not indicate the same high character as Hance." One can assume that after that debacle, Dumbya Bush will never underestimate the ability of the Religious Right to inflame voters. Now I fear asking the obvious: Who does Dumbya Bush hope to buy with all these millions of campaign contributions? Even worse, what will the eventual price be to America if enough voters do sell their votes to the highest bidder? And finally, what price will those who contribute heavily to Dumbya's campaign demand later on down the road? -- Email sent to is never read. |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
Harry Krause wrote:
K Smith wrote: Harry Krause wrote: K Smith wrote: I mean wasn't he elected by every single American voting??? No, dumb****, Settle; settle; look old fella I'm honestly worried about you:-) are you really sure I don't bother you?? not even just a tiny tad??? It does appear you're getting all excited about my posts:-) Bush was NOT elected by "every single American voting." OK ya got me there, I suppose I should have said every single voter who was eligible to vote, chose to vote & was bright enough to cast a valid vote. Is that more accurate for you??? Whatever he's the one the people in the world's leading democracy chose!!! Nice try, douchebag. But but I...........I dealt with ALL your objections & all you can do is call me names again??? Seems the pills are kicking in for you & about time too. K Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-) I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap candidates. I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k, and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees. Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are not-for-profit enterprises. How do these compare to the bennies at your shop? Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to bankruptcy. Boy...and you had me going there for a minute. Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our business always goes up in a major election year. You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is such a total failure. The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there in case they're needed. Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD. The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to $10,000 per month. Here's just some of his prior lies (in his own words pasted); I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing the new boat industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was sold...every cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near full-retail, too. He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him great rates. As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in my memory, and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife), Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and participated in deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important than who was giving them blow jobs. Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I worked once for his father. My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be hit by a mild hurricane. No one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk. Preferably early in July. We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear, a broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary assignments they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full years. So, we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any, either. The proceeds were prudently invested. The PWC was won as a prize in a raffle. Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his office? Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?" Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two "around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were sold as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run. Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he wanted it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In those days, workers at these places could fix anything. Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner. But he still called bumpers bumpers. -- Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to entice him into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the *exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to them as "jerry-built." From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage of *all* outboards sold in his home state for those years. This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to right after the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his warehouse, I found wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949 Evinrude 8015 50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for winning some outboard stock utility or hydroplane race. I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop as head mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still brand-new. I have no idea who might own it now. He also built boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've just been an occasional boat owner. Besides, I worked off and on in the boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said, I'm knee-deep in boat heritage. Oh, and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it wasn't for what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came back in body bags. During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings for the Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use them on smaller landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole Evinrude himself. My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie star or singer...I forgot which. Maybe both. Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have. My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22' boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC. Here are some: Hatteras 43' sportfish Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop Morgan 33 O'Day 30 Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22 Century Coronado Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze. Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers with various Evinrudes Lighting class sailboat Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat. Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit) Alcort Sunfish Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders. Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's. Skimmar brand skiff Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider) Dyer Dhow Su-Mark roundbilge runabout, fiberglass Penn Yan runabouts. Wood. Old Town wood and canvas canoe Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard Wood to Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway home it started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a large popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA is still there. Sure was a pretty little car. Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one example of my professional writings on building structure and the effects on it of hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of these in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching, photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate, topical and well-received by their intended audiences. A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait, tackle and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats were not used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the liners that also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the hulls. A guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same reasons -liner and then hull fractures. Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't like nor tolerate misogynists for long. Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material. After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride" story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered, treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-) 1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of "bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may. 2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am entitled to break them in exercise of my license. 3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant. 4. She's 20 years younger than I am. Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political" consulting jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was offered a job up here that represented a significant professional career move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well, really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer and my bride just returned from a business trip there. I swear this is true. Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina, Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby. So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of water...?" Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own a boat? And why are you so crabby? Maybe these two factors are related? One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in her car every day, but she doesn't own it. I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it. No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console with, if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to the Gulf Stream. Bride and I caught and released: 1 white marlin 12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish. Assorted red snappers 1 amberjack 2 jack crevalle jacks 1 snook Nondescript sharks Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state hospital for forensic patients? Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for substance abusers? Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol? Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help for substance abuse problems? Licensed psychotherapist Screening as to character and background for each degree earned On-going screening by faculty while in educational system Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus, at the same time, supervision by a licensed professional. Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist for two years of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed practitioners Four hour written examination on state laws Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final internship was as a psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric hospital where, on a daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier. My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such "treatment" is part of being in the mental health professions. You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour, until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners overcome their feelings of boatable inadequacy. She is a licensed, practicing psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each day. Which can be taken any way one likes. 1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know? And much of Freud is passe. My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago. They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade. 1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office. 2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong to an after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call tried to block his number. Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people, they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the police. In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE (duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it. Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and* authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make such calls. The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious calls came in from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace. The local police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when it was discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got involved. At least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can tell, he has not posted here again |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
Harry Krause wrote:
NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... After Yale, Bush applied to a third-rate law school in Texas. There is no limit to the depth of your lies. Got any proof of this allegation, Harry? It's been reported, verified and re-reported dozens of times. The information is out there...if you are that curious, you'll find it. What poor illiterate Harry is trying to say is; he has no evidence whatsoever, none!! It's just more of his lies, however in this case he says if lots of lefties repeat the same lie often enough it might become true:-) Harry the lying loon of the left. K Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-) I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap candidates. I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k, and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees. Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are not-for-profit enterprises. How do these compare to the bennies at your shop? Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to bankruptcy. Boy...and you had me going there for a minute. Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our business always goes up in a major election year. You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is such a total failure. The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there in case they're needed. Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD. The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to $10,000 per month. Here's just some of his prior lies (in his own words pasted); I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing the new boat industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was sold...every cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near full-retail, too. He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him great rates. As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in my memory, and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife), Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and participated in deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important than who was giving them blow jobs. Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I worked once for his father. My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be hit by a mild hurricane. No one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk. Preferably early in July. We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear, a broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary assignments they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full years. So, we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any, either. The proceeds were prudently invested. The PWC was won as a prize in a raffle. Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his office? Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?" Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two "around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were sold as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run. Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he wanted it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In those days, workers at these places could fix anything. Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner. But he still called bumpers bumpers. -- Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to entice him into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the *exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to them as "jerry-built." From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage of *all* outboards sold in his home state for those years. This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to right after the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his warehouse, I found wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949 Evinrude 8015 50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for winning some outboard stock utility or hydroplane race. I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop as head mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still brand-new. I have no idea who might own it now. He also built boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've just been an occasional boat owner. Besides, I worked off and on in the boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said, I'm knee-deep in boat heritage. Oh, and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it wasn't for what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came back in body bags. During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings for the Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use them on smaller landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole Evinrude himself. My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie star or singer...I forgot which. Maybe both. Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have. My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22' boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC. Here are some: Hatteras 43' sportfish Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop Morgan 33 O'Day 30 Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22 Century Coronado Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze. Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers with various Evinrudes Lighting class sailboat Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat. Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit) Alcort Sunfish Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders. Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's. Skimmar brand skiff Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider) Dyer Dhow Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass Penn Yan runabouts. Wood. Old Town ood and canvas canoe Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard Wood to Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway home it started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a large popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA is still there. Sure was a pretty little car. Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one example of my professional writings on building structure and the effects on it of hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of these in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching, photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate, topical and well-received by their intended audiences. A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait, tackle and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats were not used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the liners that also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the hulls. A guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same reasons -liner and then hull fractures. Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't like nor tolerate misogynists for long. Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material. After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride" story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered, treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-) 1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of "bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may. 2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am entitled to break them in exercise of my license. 3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant. 4. She's 20 years younger than I am. Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political" consulting jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was offered a job up here that represented a significant professional career move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well, really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer and my bride just returned from a business trip there. I swear this is true. Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina, Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby. So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of water...?" Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own a boat? And why are you so crabby? Maybe these two factors are related? One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in her car every day, but she doesn't own it. I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it. No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console with, if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to the Gulf Stream. Bride and I caught and released: 1 white marlin 12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish. Assorted red snappers 1 amberjack 2 jack crevalle jacks 1 snook Nondescript sharks Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state hospital for forensic patients? Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for substance abusers? Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol? Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help for substance abuse problems? Licensed psychotherapist Screening as to character and background for each degree earned On-going screening by faculty while in educational system Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus, at the same time, supervision by a licensed professional. Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist for two years of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed practitioners Four hour written examination on state laws Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final internship was as a psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric hospital where, on a daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier. My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such "treatment" is part of being in the mental health professions. You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour, until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners overcome their feelings of boatable inadequacy. She is a licensed, practicing psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each day. Which can be taken any way one likes. 1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know? And much of Freud is passe. My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago. They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade. 1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office. 2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong to an after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call tried to block his number. Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people, they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the police. In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE (duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it. Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and* authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make such calls. The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious calls came in from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace. The local police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when it was discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got involved. At least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can tell, he has not posted here again |
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Can you post a copy of his transcript he
___________________ "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... K Smith wrote: Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Does he have the mental capacity to administer the US govt? I'd say he does...or you must not think very highly of Yale and Harvard. Where'd you get your degree(s) from, Chuck? Bush's daddy bought sonnyboy's way into those schools, which was still possible back then, and may well be possible now. I knew a few numnutsies during my Ivy days; they were boys from very wealthy or prominent families, legacies, usually. Well more jealous BS from the left, so you have no "evidence" Bush was other than a good student?? I guess places like Yale & Harvard got their great world wide reputations for turning out clever people by giving "specials" to the chosen few?? You stoop so low it's even surprises me. I know what courses Bush took at Yale and I have seen his grades, douchebag. This is yet another area in which you have proven you know nothing. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Thanks for the info. Bush apparently applied to and was rejected from
University of Texas Law School. As for it being a "third-rate Texas law school"...US News ranked it 12th in the nation this year. Where was Harvard's business school ranked? ;-) "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... After Yale, Bush applied to a third-rate law school in Texas. There is no limit to the depth of your lies. Got any proof of this allegation, Harry? It's been reported, verified and re-reported dozens of times. The information is out there...if you are that curious, you'll find it. Here's a quickie I found in two seconds of searching; I've seen much better references to this failure, though: he Starr Report: October 12, 1999 Despite Yale diploma, George W. was rejected by U of Texas Law School By Linda L. Starr George Dumbya Bush was rejected by the University of Texas Law School in 1973 after he had supposedly graduated from Yale, an Ivy League school! How can this be true when at the time his father was the congressman from Houston? Is this more rumor-mongering by liberals out to besmirch the Golden Boy of the GOP? No, his own mother was quoted in an interview with Skip Hollandsworth as saying, "I think that got under his skin a litle bit, because I don't think he was used to not doing what he wanted to do." when asked about the rejection. According to Clayton Day, Jr., one of his Yale classmates "He went there for the same reason a lot of us did. I had a lot of degrees, but I couldn't do anything. It was like trade school." That is a pretty sad commentary to explain a wasted education at Yale. How many people could go there, come out with a degree, and not be able to do anything with it? This makes me question Dumbya's whole new ideology about quality of education based on money invested, as he claims with his plan for a voucher program. If these rules he wants to apply to our nations' youth, had been applied to him, he would find himself a common beggar with his cup held out to strangers for survival money. He certainly has not practiced the lectures he preaches to the common working poor. He apparently feels he is above the rules of society all of us must accept and adopt for our everyday living. According to another Bush friend, Doug Hannah -- son of real estate developer turned space rocket entrepreneur David Hannah -- Dumbya was pretty cavalier in his 20s about girlfriends and drinking. When his younger brother Marvin was just 15, Dumbya took him out drinking and partying. Upon running over a neighbor's trash can on the way home, father Bush called him into the den to discuss what happened, Dumbya challenged "You want to go mano a mano right here?" Terrific family morals exhibited here especially since Barbara states there was no need to question Dumbya's behavior back then. Then when Dumbya ran for Congress in 1978 against Kent Hance, he had his first education in opposing the Christian Coalition. According to Patricia Kilday Hart's article on Dumbya, he came under attack in the University Daily, a Texas Tech student newspaper, for promising free beer at a Bush campaign rally. "Mr. Bush has used some of his vast sums of money...to persuade young college students to vote for and support him by offering free alcohol [to] them," wrote Lubbock attorney George Thompson III. Thompson in conclusion deduced that Bush's virtues "do not indicate the same high character as Hance." One can assume that after that debacle, Dumbya Bush will never underestimate the ability of the Religious Right to inflame voters. Now I fear asking the obvious: Who does Dumbya Bush hope to buy with all these millions of campaign contributions? Even worse, what will the eventual price be to America if enough voters do sell their votes to the highest bidder? And finally, what price will those who contribute heavily to Dumbya's campaign demand later on down the road? -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Going, and graduating are two very different things.
Yeah. To graduate you have to stick it out for 4 years whie maintaining at least a "D" average. |
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WTF is a "verbal IQ"? It sounds like nothing more than a term you invented
so that you can make yourself sound smart...and make Bush sound not so smart. Type "verbal IQ" into Google. You'll get something over 4,000 hits. No point in me explaining IQ to you, NOYB- you'll simply claim it's a liberal plot to make it appear that Bush doesn't have much of one. Verbal IQ- Google- read and learn. is certainly under the average rating of 100. Now you've invented a "rating" scale for "verbal IQ"? No, NOYB. I have not. 100 is considered "average" when scoring IQ's. Somebody with an IQ of 70 is 30 points below average, while somebody with an IQ of 130 is 30 points above. Having never attended College, you really don't have the right to criticize the intelligence of someone who obtained degrees from two of this country's most prestigious schools. Sorry NOYB. You clearly do not understand the concept of intelligence. Going to school does not make one more or less intelligent- it merely makes one more or less educated or informed. Some mighty friggin stupid people have earned an attendence certificate from all sorts of colleges and universities. Let me ask you, were there *no* intelligent people before we began sending 90% of middle class kids to college? The paper would prove you had the intelligence, drive, and ambition to graduate from two of the most mentally challenging institutions in the World. Or that my Daddy financed a chair. ou come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout qualifies as a dunce, too. Dumber than a highly educated dentist who has never heard of "verbal IQ"? |
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My apologies to Chuck. After some reading, apparently there are tests to
evaluate verbal IQ...as there are tests to evaluate non-verbal IQ. They are two distinct entities... And, after firing off a scathing rebuttal to your earlier post (sorry), apology accepted. I say again, Bush *may* be intelligent in other areas- but in the verbal department I am confident he would score well under 100. I could whump Bush, verbally, almost any day. As could most people. "Course, I never did well at those two dimensional diagrams where you had to figure out what shape the 3-dimensional form would take with all 17 panels folded together. Could well be that Bush has more of that kind of intelligence than most. |
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NOYB wrote:
I'm sure a google search will link to about 1000 anti-Bush webpages, and each will recite the lie as truth...just as you did. Ahh..Brave New World...if it is the truth about Buttwiper President Bush, it is a lie, eh? -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Gould 0738 wrote:
My apologies to Chuck. After some reading, apparently there are tests to evaluate verbal IQ...as there are tests to evaluate non-verbal IQ. They are two distinct entities... And, after firing off a scathing rebuttal to your earlier post (sorry), apology accepted. I say again, Bush *may* be intelligent in other areas- but in the verbal department I am confident he would score well under 100. I could whump Bush, verbally, almost any day. As could most people. "Course, I never did well at those two dimensional diagrams where you had to figure out what shape the 3-dimensional form would take with all 17 panels folded together. Could well be that Bush has more of that kind of intelligence than most. An origami beer bottle? -- Email sent to is never read. |
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NOYB wrote:
Thanks for the info. Bush apparently applied to and was rejected from University of Texas Law School. As for it being a "third-rate Texas law school"...US News ranked it 12th in the nation this year. Where was Harvard's business school ranked? ;-) As has been mentioned a zillion times, Bush's daddy and grandpa got him into both Yale and Harvard. As for the "ranking" of UT Law School, the relevant question is, where was it ranked in the early 1970s, and by whom was it ranked? There's nothing objective behind those U.S. News rankings and never has been. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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In article , says... Not only can't you mount an argument, you're just plain incoherent. Are you drinking quite a bit? So more personal abuse but surprise surprise the major simpleton of the left still has no answers, yet again!!! Isn't it a hoot that they all lie & mostly claim to be "employers" always on socialist terms of course. It just confirms they're green with envy & are only lefties because they can't cut it in open competition, even with each other!!! Yep you're the people who should be running the world in troubled times, liars & loons. K Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-) I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap candidates. I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k, and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees. Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are not-for-profit enterprises. How do these compare to the bennies at your shop? Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to bankruptcy. Boy...and you had me going there for a minute. Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our business always goes up in a major election year. You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is such a total failure. The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there in case they're needed. Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD. The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to $10,000 per month. Here's just some of his prior lies (in his own words pasted); I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing the new boat industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was sold...every cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near full-retail, too. He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him great rates. As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in my memory, and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife), Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and participated in deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important than who was giving them blow jobs. Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I worked once for his father. My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be hit by a mild hurricane. No one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk. Preferably early in July. We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear, a broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary assignments they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full years. So, we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any, either. The proceeds were prudently invested. The PWC was won as a prize in a raffle. Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his office? Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?" Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two "around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were sold as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run. Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he wanted it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In those days, workers at these places could fix anything. Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner. But he still called bumpers bumpers. -- Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to entice him into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the *exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to them as "jerry-built." From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage of *all* outboards sold in his home state for those years. This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to right after the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his warehouse, I found wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949 Evinrude 8015 50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for winning some outboard stock utility or hydroplane race. I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop as head mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still brand-new. I have no idea who might own it now. He also built boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've just been an occasional boat owner. Besides, I worked off and on in the boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said, I'm knee-deep in boat heritage. Oh, and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it wasn't for what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came back in body bags. During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings for the Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use them on smaller landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole Evinrude himself. My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie star or singer...I forgot which. Maybe both. Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have. My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22' boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC. Here are some: Hatteras 43' sportfish Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop Morgan 33 O'Day 30 Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22 Century Coronado Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze. Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers with various Evinrudes Lighting class sailboat Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat. Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit) Alcort Sunfish Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders. Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's. Skimmar brand skiff Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider) Dyer Dhow Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass Penn Yan runabouts. Wood. Old Town wood and canvas canoe Old Town sailig canoe...different than above canoe Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard Wood to Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway home it started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a large popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA is still there. Sure was a pretty little car. Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one example of my professional writings on building structure and the effects on it of hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of these in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching, photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate, topical and well-received by their intended audiences. A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait, tackle and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats were not used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the liners that also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the hulls. A guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same reasons -liner and then hull fractures. Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't like nor tolerate misogynists for long. Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material. After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride" story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered, treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-) 1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of "bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may. 2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am entitled to break them in exercise of my license. 3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant. 4. She's 20 years younger than I am. Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political" consulting jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was offered a job up here that represented a significant professional career move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well, really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer and my bride just returned from a business trip there. I swear this is true. Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina, Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby. So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of water...?" Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own a boat? And why are you so crabby? Maybe these two factors are related? One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in her car every day, but she doesn't own it. I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it. No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console with, if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to the Gulf Stream. Bride and I caught and released: 1 white marlin 12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish. Assorted red snappers 1 amberjack 2 jack crevalle jacks 1 snook Nondescript sharks Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state hospital for forensic patients? Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for substance abusers? Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol? Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help for substance abuse problems? Licensed psychotherapist Screening as to character and background for each degree earned On-going screening by faculty while in educational system Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus, at the same time, supervision by a licensed professional. Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist for two years of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed practitioners Four hour written examination on state laws Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final internship was as a psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric hospital where, on a daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier. My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such "treatment" is part of being in the mental health professions. You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour, until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners overcome their feelings of boatable inadequacy. She is a licensed, practicing psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each day. Which can be taken any way one likes. 1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know? And much of Freud is passe. My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago. They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade. 1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office. 2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong to an after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call tried to block his number. Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people, they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the police. In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE (duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it. Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and* authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make such calls. The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious calls came in from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace. The local police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when it was discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got involved. At least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can tell, he has not posted here again |
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K Smith wrote:
jps wrote: In article , says... Not only can't you mount an argument, you're just plain incoherent. Are you drinking quite a bit? So more personal abuse but surprise surprise the major simpleton of the left still has no answers, yet again!!! Isn't it a hoot that they all lie & mostly claim to be "employers" always on socialist terms of course. It just confirms they're green with envy & are only lefties because they can't cut it in open competition, even with each other!!! Yep you're the people who should be running the world in troubled times, liars & loons. K Interesting pattern...Karen behaves badly towards anyone who disagrees with her. |
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:47:41 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... After Yale, Bush applied to a third-rate law school in Texas. There is no limit to the depth of your lies. Got any proof of this allegation, Harry? It's been reported, verified and re-reported dozens of times. The information is out there...if you are that curious, you'll find it. Here's a quickie I found in two seconds of searching; I've seen much better references to this failure, though: he Starr Report: October 12, 1999 Despite Yale diploma, George W. was rejected by U of Texas Law School By Linda L. Starr George Dumbya Bush was rejected by the University of Texas Law School in 1973 after he had supposedly graduated from Yale, an Ivy League school! How can this be true when at the time his father was the congressman from Houston? Is this more rumor-mongering by liberals out to besmirch the Golden Boy of the GOP? No, his own mother was quoted in an interview with Skip Hollandsworth as saying, "I think that got under his skin a litle bit, because I don't think he was used to not doing what he wanted to do." when asked about the rejection. According to Clayton Day, Jr., one of his Yale classmates "He went there for the same reason a lot of us did. I had a lot of degrees, but I couldn't do anything. It was like trade school." That is a pretty sad commentary to explain a wasted education at Yale. How many people could go there, come out with a degree, and not be able to do anything with it? This makes me question Dumbya's whole new ideology about quality of education based on money invested, as he claims with his plan for a voucher program. If these rules he wants to apply to our nations' youth, had been applied to him, he would find himself a common beggar with his cup held out to strangers for survival money. He certainly has not practiced the lectures he preaches to the common working poor. He apparently feels he is above the rules of society all of us must accept and adopt for our everyday living. According to another Bush friend, Doug Hannah -- son of real estate developer turned space rocket entrepreneur David Hannah -- Dumbya was pretty cavalier in his 20s about girlfriends and drinking. When his younger brother Marvin was just 15, Dumbya took him out drinking and partying. Upon running over a neighbor's trash can on the way home, father Bush called him into the den to discuss what happened, Dumbya challenged "You want to go mano a mano right here?" Terrific family morals exhibited here especially since Barbara states there was no need to question Dumbya's behavior back then. Then when Dumbya ran for Congress in 1978 against Kent Hance, he had his first education in opposing the Christian Coalition. According to Patricia Kilday Hart's article on Dumbya, he came under attack in the University Daily, a Texas Tech student newspaper, for promising free beer at a Bush campaign rally. "Mr. Bush has used some of his vast sums of money...to persuade young college students to vote for and support him by offering free alcohol [to] them," wrote Lubbock attorney George Thompson III. Thompson in conclusion deduced that Bush's virtues "do not indicate the same high character as Hance." One can assume that after that debacle, Dumbya Bush will never underestimate the ability of the Religious Right to inflame voters. Now I fear asking the obvious: Who does Dumbya Bush hope to buy with all these millions of campaign contributions? Even worse, what will the eventual price be to America if enough voters do sell their votes to the highest bidder? And finally, what price will those who contribute heavily to Dumbya's campaign demand later on down the road? Harry, isn't this called "third order hearsay"? Read this piece of tripe, and then say this constitutes 'proof' of anything. My mother told me that a freiend of her girlfriend told her that....jeeeeesh! John On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD |
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JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:47:41 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... After Yale, Bush applied to a third-rate law school in Texas. There is no limit to the depth of your lies. Got any proof of this allegation, Harry? It's been reported, verified and re-reported dozens of times. The information is out there...if you are that curious, you'll find it. Here's a quickie I found in two seconds of searching; I've seen much better references to this failure, though: he Starr Report: October 12, 1999 Despite Yale diploma, George W. was rejected by U of Texas Law School By Linda L. Starr George Dumbya Bush was rejected by the University of Texas Law School in 1973 after he had supposedly graduated from Yale, an Ivy League school! How can this be true when at the time his father was the congressman from Houston? Is this more rumor-mongering by liberals out to besmirch the Golden Boy of the GOP? No, his own mother was quoted in an interview with Skip Hollandsworth as saying, "I think that got under his skin a litle bit, because I don't think he was used to not doing what he wanted to do." when asked about the rejection. According to Clayton Day, Jr., one of his Yale classmates "He went there for the same reason a lot of us did. I had a lot of degrees, but I couldn't do anything. It was like trade school." That is a pretty sad commentary to explain a wasted education at Yale. How many people could go there, come out with a degree, and not be able to do anything with it? This makes me question Dumbya's whole new ideology about quality of education based on money invested, as he claims with his plan for a voucher program. If these rules he wants to apply to our nations' youth, had been applied to him, he would find himself a common beggar with his cup held out to strangers for survival money. He certainly has not practiced the lectures he preaches to the common working poor. He apparently feels he is above the rules of society all of us must accept and adopt for our everyday living. According to another Bush friend, Doug Hannah -- son of real estate developer turned space rocket entrepreneur David Hannah -- Dumbya was pretty cavalier in his 20s about girlfriends and drinking. When his younger brother Marvin was just 15, Dumbya took him out drinking and partying. Upon running over a neighbor's trash can on the way home, father Bush called him into the den to discuss what happened, Dumbya challenged "You want to go mano a mano right here?" Terrific family morals exhibited here especially since Barbara states there was no need to question Dumbya's behavior back then. Then when Dumbya ran for Congress in 1978 against Kent Hance, he had his first education in opposing the Christian Coalition. According to Patricia Kilday Hart's article on Dumbya, he came under attack in the University Daily, a Texas Tech student newspaper, for promising free beer at a Bush campaign rally. "Mr. Bush has used some of his vast sums of money...to persuade young college students to vote for and support him by offering free alcohol [to] them," wrote Lubbock attorney George Thompson III. Thompson in conclusion deduced that Bush's virtues "do not indicate the same high character as Hance." One can assume that after that debacle, Dumbya Bush will never underestimate the ability of the Religious Right to inflame voters. Now I fear asking the obvious: Who does Dumbya Bush hope to buy with all these millions of campaign contributions? Even worse, what will the eventual price be to America if enough voters do sell their votes to the highest bidder? And finally, what price will those who contribute heavily to Dumbya's campaign demand later on down the road? Harry, isn't this called "third order hearsay"? Read this piece of tripe, and then say this constitutes 'proof' of anything. My mother told me that a freiend of her girlfriend told her that....jeeeeesh! John On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD John...it's been reported any number of places, and so have the remarks of Dubya's mom. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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In article , says... jps wrote: In article , says... Not only can't you mount an argument, you're just plain incoherent. Are you drinking quite a bit? So more personal abuse but surprise surprise the major simpleton of the left still has no answers, yet again!!! You don't have a question worth answering. So it should be easy for you then, go for it. Your idiotic claims haven't any substance and they're not worth the effort. No I know you lefties avoid "effort" as hard as you do responsibility, initiative, loyalty, risk taking (with your own money) & the truth. These posts of yours seem only to be a vehicle for your affection for Harry. Why don't you give up on him, he's married already. I have to say this Harry grub has bullied women out of this NG for years & it now transpires he can't take it?? as usual you lefties are tribal so feel safe in a herd, run in circles around him all you like I don't care. Fly with the crows you get shot with the crows. Isn't it a hoot that they all lie & mostly claim to be "employers" always on socialist terms of course. It just confirms they're green with envy & are only lefties because they can't cut it in open competition, even with each other!!! Who among the left claim to be employers other than me? I think you've gone over the deep end. Ready?? Are you really ready??? It's..............it's that well known employer from the left................... it's.........Harry!!!! Harry has just made the same socialist claim you have & both are false fabrications!! what are the odds of that??? Both with the same lies within a few days of each other??? I'm betting on a whale falling out of space next. Read below it's his own words. I don't give a hoot what you believe, that's your choice. I don't lie about my personal circumstances. You have no evidence to the contrary and yet you call me a liar. Makes you look foolish. So tell us what industry "you" employed these people in??? then. It's your claim jps, in true Harry fashion for the same reason, so you can pretend you know something of business. Yep you're the people who should be running the world in troubled times, liars & loons. You have no basis upon which to assume I'm a liar. When a simpleton says they employ people & then that they give them over the top socialist dream wages & conditions, I do have reason to call you a liar & do so right here right now. I have plenty of basis upon which to assume you're a bitch. You're right about the fact that the left should be running things right now. Afterall, look what your imbecilic "conservative's" approach to solving problems has wrought. They've managed to organize and align Moslem nations against the US, Thats' not correct, indeed many of the so called "Moslem" nations have pulled their heads in as they well should, they've seen how easy it is for you to set things right & know if they are a risk to the west we'll come & deal with them next. You should be thanking Pres. Bush every morning of your govt funded life. raid the US federal budget, grow the federal government faster than anytime in history other than immediately after WWII, This is worse than WW11, there was never an attack like 911 on the US, not ever. Pearl Harbour was much less of a risk to you yet you mobilised as you should have & now you're doing it again, but being very restrained. Yes war costs the budget but that's the same in every war, it's not Bushes fault. wreck havoc on the personal freedoms which set America apart from your inconsequential British colonies, Again tell us exactly where the new laws designed to protect you have impacted on "your" life. Here we're all very happy to be searched &/or scanned at airports, we agree with the detention for questioning laws, again there are reasonable safeguards. Your side will risk lives in the name of your bent ideologies. Everything done is in accord with yours or ours or britons or whoevers constitutions, so sorry jps get used to it that's called democracy. Govt's are there for the good of all not just to pander to whims of the noisiest special interest groups. squander all goodwill among our allies in the world. Who?? France & fgmy?? Gees louise 2 lefties what a surprise & now they want to "expand" their own defense potentially outside NATO. Watch out this century is shaping up like the last & with the very same lefty socialists in play, you've been warned!!! Quite a number of accomplishments in less than 3 years of Bush. He's sorted out afghanistan, something russia couldn't do for 20 yrs, he's gotten rid of saddam, he's made sure there have been no more attacks on US territory, protecting you & your family Note the terrorists are trying as hard as they can russia, bali, endless other places, but their target of choice?? they can't even get near it because of your Pres's. decisive actions, well done!!!. All the while he's dealt with the tech wreck & the stock implosion such that a world wide economic disaster looks like being averted. Yep whata man!!! go for it!! Have another pint Karen. If I was a drinker I would that was good work & thanks. K Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-) I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap candidates. I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k, and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees. Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are not-for-profit enterprises. How do these compare to the bennies at your shop? Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to bankruptcy. Boy...and you had me going there for a minute. Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our business always goes up in a major election year. You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is such a total failure. The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there in case they're needed. Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD. The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to $10,000 per month. Here's just some of his prior lies (in his own words pasted); I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing the new boat industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was sold...every cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near full-retail, too. He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him great rates. As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in my memory, and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife), Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and participated in deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important than who was giving them blow jobs. Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I worked once for his father. My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be hit by a mild hurricane. No one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk. Preferably early in July. We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear, a broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary assignments they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full years. So, we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any, either. The proceeds were prudently invested. The PWC was won as a prize in a raffle. Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his office? Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?" Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two "around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were sold as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run. Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he wanted it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In those days, workers at these places could fix anything. Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner. But he still called bumpers bumpers. -- Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to entice him into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the *exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to them as "jerry-built." From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage of *all* outboards sold in his home state for those years. This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to right after the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his warehouse, I found wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949 Evinrude 8015 50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for winning some outboard stock utility or hydroplane race. I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop as head mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still brand-new. I have no idea who might own it now. He also built boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've just been an occasional boat owner. Besides, I worked off and on in the boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said I'm knee-deep in boat heritage. Oh, and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it wasn't for what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came back in body bags. During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings for the Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use them on smaller landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole Evinrude himself. My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie star or singer...I forgot which. Maybe both. Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have. My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22' boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC. Here are some: Hatteras 43' sportfish Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop Morgan 33 O'Day 30 Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22 Century Coronado Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze. Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers with various Evinrudes Lighting class sailboat Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat. Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit) Alcort Sunfish Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders. Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's. Skimmar brand skiff Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider) Dyer Dhow Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass Penn Yan runabouts. Wood. Old Town wood and canvas canoe Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard Wood to Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway home it started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a large popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA is still there. Sure was a pretty little car. Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one example of my professional writings on building structure and the effects on it of hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of these in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching, photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate, topical and well-received by their intended audiences. A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait, tackle and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats were not used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the liners that also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the hulls. A guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same reasons -liner and then hull fractures. Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't like nor tolerate misogynists for long. Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material. After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride" story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered, treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-) 1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of "bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may. 2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am entitled to break them in exercise of my license. 3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant. 4. She's 20 years younger than I am. Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political" consulting jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was offered a job up here that represented a significant professional career move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well, really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer and my bride just returned from a business trip there. I swear this is true. Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina, Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby. So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of water...?" Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own a boat? And why are you so crabby? Maybe these two factors are related? One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in her car every day, but she doesn't own it. I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it. No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console with, if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to the Gulf Stream. Bride and I caught and released: 1 white marlin 12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish. Assorted red snappers 1 amberjack 2 jack crevalle jacks 1 snook Nondescript sharks Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state hospital for forensic patients? Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for substance abusers? Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol? Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help for substance abuse problems? Licensed psychotherapist Screening as to character and background for each degree earned On-going screening by faculty while in educational system Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus, at the same time, supervision by a licensed professional. Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist for two years of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed practitioners Four hour written examination on state laws Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final internship was as a psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric hospital where, on a daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier. My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such "treatment" is part of being in the mental health professions. You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour, until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners overcome their feelings of boatable inadequacy. She is a licensed, practicing psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each day. Which can be taken any way one likes. 1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know? And much of Freud is passe. My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago. They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade. 1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office. 2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong to an after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call tried to block his number. Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people, they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the police. In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE (duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it. Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and* authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make such calls. The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious calls came in from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace. The local police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when it was discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got involved. At least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can tell, he has not posted here again |
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Harry Krause wrote: and you haven't dropped your drawers in front of a man for 40 years. Why do your thoughts in attacking others inevitably focus upon the genitals? I suspect that you're inadequate in that area yourself. You're a poster boy of the liberal left. -- Charlie ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Harry Krause wrote: Nice try, douchebag. I remember when Lee used this kind of language to describe you in this newsgroup, you began to whine and cry about his potty mouth. No wonder your picture is next to the definition of hypocrite in the dictionary. -- Charlie ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Harry Krause wrote: As has been mentioned a zillion times, Bush's daddy and grandpa got him into both Yale and Harvard. It all boils down to this: Bush is president and you're just a sad liar living a vicarious boating life in a usenet newsgroup. -- Charlie ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Harry Krause wrote: Interesting pattern...Karen behaves badly towards anyone who disagrees with her. Well, golly gee, we ain't never seen that before from anyone in this newsgroup, now have we? Are you really this stupid, or are you just rattled? -- Charlie ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... My apologies to Chuck. After some reading, apparently there are tests to evaluate verbal IQ...as there are tests to evaluate non-verbal IQ. They are two distinct entities... And, after firing off a scathing rebuttal to your earlier post (sorry), apology accepted. That's OK, Chuck. The rest of my earlier post still applies: You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout qualifies as a dunce, too. |
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... My apologies to Chuck. After some reading, apparently there are tests to evaluate verbal IQ...as there are tests to evaluate non-verbal IQ. They are two distinct entities... And, after firing off a scathing rebuttal to your earlier post (sorry), apology accepted. That's OK, Chuck. The rest of my earlier post still applies: You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout qualifies as a dunce, too. Oh, there's more to Bush's duncemanship than his word-mangling. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point
where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout qualifies as a dunce, too. Intelligence is a personal quality, somewhat like talent. You don't become more "intelligent" by going to school, nor does graduating from a course of study indicate that the one is more intelligent than those who did not pursue the same course. You confuse "educated" with "intelligent". Education may help a person maximize his or her native intelligence. Education may help a person be better informed. Take your own case, for example. You are no more "intelligent" now than you were before you went to dental school- but you are a hell of a lot more informed about dentistry. Compare yourself to an individual who studied physics rather than dentistry- that person will know a lot less about dentristry than you will and you will know less about physics. Which of you is more or less intelligent? Does a DDS trump a PhD in physics? Always? As far as: http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveilla...0011031_eff_us a_patriot_analysis.php |
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout qualifies as a dunce, too. Intelligence is a personal quality, somewhat like talent. You don't become more "intelligent" by going to school, nor does graduating from a course of study indicate that the one is more intelligent than those who did not pursue the same course. You confuse "educated" with "intelligent". Education may help a person maximize his or her native intelligence. Education may help a person be better informed. Take your own case, for example. You are no more "intelligent" now than you were before you went to dental school- but you are a hell of a lot more informed about dentistry. Compare yourself to an individual who studied physics rather than dentistry- that person will know a lot less about dentristry than you will and you will know less about physics. Which of you is more or less intelligent? Does a DDS trump a PhD in physics? I dunno. Physics was always my best subject (I have a Mechanical Engineering degree)...but dentistry provided a lot better way to make a living IMO. |
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(Don't accidentally hit "return" on this system) As far as your goofy premise that I said Bush was not intelligent? Use some of that intelligence that got you through dental school (frin) to actually *read* what I said and react to that, rather the wheel out the canned conservative talk show response #61B. I said, and I maintain, that whatever sort of intelligence the President might possess, he has a lower than average verbal IQ. What you should know, (by virture of superior intelligence?) is that a guy could be a friggin genius and score very poorly in verbal IQ. I did not say the president was stupid. I said he cannot speak. He, himself, has said he does not read. Low verbal IQ. Could still be a bright guy, but its harder to tell. |
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Bush actually *may* be reasonably intelligent in some apsects.
Intelligence has many facets. Whatever his other skills might be, even the most devout apologist has to admit that Bush's *verbal* IQ Several sources confirm that Bush scored 1206 (out of 1600) on his SAT. 566 verbal and 640 math. Additional indication that his intelligence is not particularly verbal. I wonder if scores of 566 (out of 800 possible) and 640 (again, out of 800) were strong enough to qualify for admission to an Ivy League school in 1968? Here's a surprise- a guy that I would have thought was more verbal than pragmatic isn't! Al Gore, a reasonably gifted speaker, scored 625 on the verbal SAT and 730 on the math. That's not a bad math score. One of many cites: http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/ |
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Bush actually *may* be reasonably intelligent in some apsects. Intelligence has many facets. Whatever his other skills might be, even the most devout apologist has to admit that Bush's *verbal* IQ Several sources confirm that Bush scored 1206 (out of 1600) on his SAT. 566 verbal and 640 math. Hmmmm. He scored 16 points higher on the verbal section than I. I guess why I don't see anything wrong with the guy. ;-) My scores=550 verbal/710 math. I took the test my junior year in high school. A 1260 was good enough for state schools, so I didn't bother to take it again my senior year. Additional indication that his intelligence is not particularly verbal. 566 is better than the average. I wonder if scores of 566 (out of 800 possible) and 640 (again, out of 800) were strong enough to qualify for admission to an Ivy League school in 1968? A 1206 was pretty good 35 years ago. Today, kids are either smarter...or they've dumbed down the test. Here's a surprise- a guy that I would have thought was more verbal than pragmatic isn't! Al Gore, a reasonably gifted speaker, scored 625 on the verbal SAT and 730 on the math. That's not a bad math score. The ability to speak in public is a very poor indicator of a person's intelligence, IMO. Some people just don't perform well in public speaking...but relate amazingly well in one-on-one dialogue. I suspect that this describes Bush. |
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In article , says... So tell us what industry "you" employed these people in??? then. It's your claim jps, in true Harry fashion for the same reason, so you can pretend you know something of business. The only thing worthwhile answering is that I'm in the high tech business and it involves computers and programming. Ja'me is that you??? if you're the hidden dove, hi how ya goin' & ficht is dead yes!!! ;-)??? but you better get the flock out of here because I'm shooting the left wings off those bludger crows & if you're flying with them, white dove or no, you're in the firing line. Hi tech business:-) love it what a load of BS!!! & every "business involves computers & programming" these days so this is just liars' waffle nothing more. Your claim was; The truth is I provide a place of employment for many families in a non- corporate atmosphere that puts the welfare of the employees on a closer par with corporate profits than most companies. My company is 12 years old in Feb. and we've worked with and count as clients internationally recognized firms. make up your mind is it a corporate or not??? Regardless name them & then we can see what industry it might be in & don't bother including the electricity supplier or the stationery suppliers, because you're clearly trying to pull off a Harry type load of crap. What's so secretive about it?? Harry would've claimed national security is the reason by now, so I guess you will any tick now:-) "You provide a place of employment for many families" in a non corporate atmosphere indeed, what utter BS!!! I don't pretend to know something about business, Yes you do!! read your own claim again; "you" claimed "you" that's "you" jps as an employer, not that you work for a Co that employs people, so tell us about it then. You come here OT all the time spruiking your left BS yet want a free pass?? If you make a claim you better substantiate it, we can believe or not believe that's fine but you can't have the benefit of the claim & then say sorry it's secret, if it's secret don't make the claim. I've run this one for 12 years and it has made it through very difficult transitions, survived and is now prospering, even during the corporate downturn. Again why the shyness smuckums, tell us what it is, you don't need to give it's name although I can't imagine why not, just what it actually does, which industry, which widgets. You are lying just as Harry is when he claims to be an "employer" of writers!!! no less:-) Sorry, sorry, I start giggling:-) And I've received not one bit of help from the government, other than access to people who have a decent public education, for which I'm very thankful. I pay taxes on time, I'm not aggressive with tax loopholes to avoid paying taxes. I've chosen not to reincorporate in Nevada or the District of Columbia to avoid state business and occupations taxes. It must be a lucrative non corporate industry because you tell us above you put the "welfare" of the staff above profit, what?? you over pay staff with wages & conditions?? so why not tell us what it is??? You're welcome to refute and accuse but you'd be wrong. I may well be wrong but you're the one who made the claim & because so I challenge you, back up your claim or be seen for what you are, a liar the same as Harry. Which reminds me;;;; K Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-) I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap candidates. I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k, and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees. Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are not-for-profit enterprises. How do these compare to the bennies at your shop? Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to bankruptcy. Boy...and you had me going there for a minute. Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our business always goes up in a major election year. You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is such a total failure. The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there in case they're needed. Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD. The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to $10,000 per month. Here's just some of his prior lies (in his own words pasted); I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing the new boat industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was sold...every cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near full-retail, too. He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him great rates. As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in my memory, and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife), Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and participated in deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important than who was giving them blow jobs. Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I worked once for his father. My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be hit by a mild hurricane. No one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk. Preferably early in July. We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear, a broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary assignments they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full years. So, we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any, either. The proceeds were prudently invested. The PWC was won as a prize in a raffle. Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his office? Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?" Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two "around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were sold as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run. Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he wanted it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In those days, workers at these places could fix anything. Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner. But he still called bumpers bumpers. -- Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to entice him into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the *exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to them as "jerry-built." From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage of *all* outboards sold in his home state for those years. This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to right after the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his warehouse, I found wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949 Evinrude 8015 50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for winning some outboard stock utility or hydroplane race. I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop as head mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still brand-new. I have no idea who might own it now. He also built boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've just been an occasional boat owner. Besides, I worked off and on in the boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said, I'm knee-deep in boat heritage. Oh, and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it wasn't for what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came back in body bags. During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings for the Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use them on smaller landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole Evinrude himself. My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie star or singer...I forgot which. Maybe both. Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have. My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22' boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC. Here are some: Hatteras 43' sportfish Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop Morgan 33 O'Day 30 Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22 Century Coronado Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze. Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers with various Evinrudes Lighting class sailboat Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat. Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit) Alcort Sunfish Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders. Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's. Skimmar brand skiff Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider) Dyer Dhow Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass Penn Yan runabouts. Wood. Old Town wood and canvas canoe Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard Wood to Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway home it started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a large popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA is still there. Sure was a pretty little car. Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one example of my professional writings on building structure and the effects on it of hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of these in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching, photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate, topical and well-received by their intended audiences. A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait, tackle and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats were not used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the liners that also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the hulls. A guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same reasons -liner and then hull fractures. Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't like nor tolerate misogynists for long. Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material. After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride" story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered, treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-) 1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of "bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may. 2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am entitled to break them in exercise of my license. 3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant. 4. She's 20 years younger than I am. Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political" consulting jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was offered a job up here that represented a significant professional career move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well, really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer and my bride just returned from a business trip there. I swear this is true. Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina, Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby. So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of water...?" Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own a boat? And why are you so crabby? Maybe these two factors are related? One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in her car every day, but she doesn't own it. I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it. No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console with, if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to the Gulf Stream. Bride and I caught and released: 1 white marlin 12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish. Assorted red snappers 1 amberjack 2 jack crevalle jacks 1 snook Nondescript sharks Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state hospital for forensic patients? Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for substance abusers? Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol? Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help for substance abuse problems? Licensed psychotherapist Screening as to character and background for each degree earned On-going screening by faculty while in educational system Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus, at the same time, supervision by a licensed professional. Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist for two years of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed practitioners Four hour written examination on state laws Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final internship was as a psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric hospital where, on a daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier. My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such "treatment" is part of being in the mental health professions. You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour, until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners overcome their feelings of boatable inadequacy. She is a licensed, practicing psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each day. Which can be taken any way one likes. 1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know? And much of Freud is passe. My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago. They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade. 1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office. 2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong to an after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call tried to block his number. Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people, they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the police. In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE (duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it. Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and* authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make such calls. The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious calls came in from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace. The local police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when it was discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got involved. At least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can tell, he has not posted here again jps |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
A 1206 was pretty good 35 years ago. Today, kids are either smarter...or
they've dumbed down the test. Or they're "teaching to" the test. That's the downside of using objective tests as a standard for evaluating schools or eductional achievement. A group of kids could learn *noting* beyond the answers to the test questions, yet if all the kids in the group scored highly the community would assume the schools were doing a fabulous job. http://www.tomorrowsbestseller.com/w...State/book.asp |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
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Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
"NOYB" wrote in message m...
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout qualifies as a dunce, too. Intelligence is a personal quality, somewhat like talent. You don't become more "intelligent" by going to school, nor does graduating from a course of study indicate that the one is more intelligent than those who did not pursue the same course. You confuse "educated" with "intelligent". Education may help a person maximize his or her native intelligence. Education may help a person be better informed. Take your own case, for example. You are no more "intelligent" now than you were before you went to dental school- but you are a hell of a lot more informed about dentistry. Compare yourself to an individual who studied physics rather than dentistry- that person will know a lot less about dentristry than you will and you will know less about physics. Which of you is more or less intelligent? Does a DDS trump a PhD in physics? I dunno. Physics was always my best subject (I have a Mechanical Engineering degree)...but dentistry provided a lot better way to make a living IMO. See, it IS true, education doesn't equal intelligence. You're educated, but, by virtue of what you post here, are stupid! |
Which of you Dems hacked Google ??
basskisser wrote: See, it IS true, education doesn't equal intelligence. You're educated, but, by virtue of what you post here, are stupid! This from your mouth is like one drunk saying to another, 'You're a drunk'. -- Charlie ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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