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Gould 0738 September 4th 04 01:19 AM

Zell's Flip-flop on Kerry
 
Chuck, are you implying there was no 'hate Bush rhetoric' by the Democrats?

Not at all. There is no shortage of hatred for George W. Bush.

Just as there was no shortage of animated hatred for Bill Clinton, before him,
and for John Kerry who hopes to replace him.

It is the right, however, moreso than the left, that institutionalizes and
capitalizes on this hatred. Which political philosophy is espoused by hate
radio personalities such as Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, et al?

Which political philosophy is running a campaign based on fear and division?
(oh, yes, I do know that we are all invited to "unite" the country by
abandoning any and all priniciples not completely in sync with
arch-conservative religious zealotry....)



Taco Heaven September 4th 04 12:32 PM

Gould,

I think you are blinded by your political preferences. If you read the
newspapers and magazines and web sites, you will find just as many on the
left as on the right who are emphasizing fear and division. Listen to
Carville, do you not think he is as rabid as any right wing talk show? What
is the difference between Michael Moore and right wing radio? How about Al
Franken and his left wing radio show?

Zell's speech was a fire and brimstone speech, he was saying what he
believed, just as Al Sharpton gave an impassioned speech that fired up those
at the conventions, they both made some factual errors, but when I hear
people saying Kerry does not want to use "spitballs" for weapons, I just
have to shake my head. It was political rhetoric, listen to some of the
passionate speeches by Ted Kennedy and other emotional liberal politicians,
and you will see the same rhetoric. I am not trying to justify Zell's,
speech, and would love it if both parties discussed the issues and presented
completely unbiased facts, but I realize it is not one sided and the left is
just as guilty as the right.

To present it any other way is the exact same rhetoric that Zell Miller used
in his keynote address.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Chuck, are you implying there was no 'hate Bush rhetoric' by the
Democrats?


Not at all. There is no shortage of hatred for George W. Bush.

Just as there was no shortage of animated hatred for Bill Clinton, before
him,
and for John Kerry who hopes to replace him.

It is the right, however, moreso than the left, that institutionalizes and
capitalizes on this hatred. Which political philosophy is espoused by hate
radio personalities such as Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, et al?

Which political philosophy is running a campaign based on fear and
division?
(oh, yes, I do know that we are all invited to "unite" the country by
abandoning any and all priniciples not completely in sync with
arch-conservative religious zealotry....)





Harry Krause September 4th 04 01:19 PM

Taco Heaven wrote:
Harry,

Suggesting that it would be a good thing for Zell to die while making the
speech is lower than any political rhetoric I have seen from either
candidates or their spin doctors. While many (probably most) democrats
would be insulted by your comment, it does show that hate abounds in this
campaign.


Nah...I'm just thinking of the reality and drama it would have added,
especially if Zell's last words (original ones...not ones cribbed from a
GOP hate letter) had been "I did it all for you and Jesus, Dubya."

A fitting end.

Hey...Zell came close...I guess that is good enough.


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Harry Krause September 4th 04 05:31 PM

Taco Heaven wrote:
Harry,

Suggesting that it would be a good thing for Zell to die while making the
speech is lower than any political rhetoric I have seen from either
candidates or their spin doctors. While many (probably most) democrats
would be insulted by your comment, it does show that hate abounds in this
campaign.


Take a remedial reading course. I didn't say it would be "a good thing"
for Miller to die. I said his speech would have been more effective had
he burst a blood vessel and died right there, while praising Jesus and
Dubya. When it comes to blowhards like Miller, I think theater is
important. Think of the wonderful headlines the Konservatrash media
outlets would have been able to produce: "Zell Miller Makes Ultimate
Sacrifice Praising Bush..."

Wonderful stuff, eh?

Most of you conservatives seem to share the same damned problem...no
ability to read for content or to understand abstractions.




--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

jim-- September 4th 04 06:13 PM


"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:3ki_c.27304$3l3.20645@attbi_s03...
Harry,

Suggesting that it would be a good thing for Zell to die while making the
speech is lower than any political rhetoric I have seen from either
candidates or their spin doctors. While many (probably most) democrats
would be insulted by your comment, it does show that hate abounds in this
campaign.


That's our Harry. He is nasty and mean spirited. He previously claimed he
got enjoyment when breaking a mans legs with his car.

He is a sick man.




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