"Jeepers" spewed in an off-topic
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Bye bye...

Member AOTIAAO
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*ploink*


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-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

In article ,
"Netsock" wrote:

"Jeepers" spewed in an off-topic
...

[off-topic crap snipped]

Member AAAAAAAA
American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.

Bye bye...

Member AOTIAAO
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*ploink*

whatever

learn to filter or to not open things you know you aren't interested in,
you'll be happier.

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"jps" wrote in message
...

BTW--She's a registered Democrat who voted for Gore in 2000.

She's an idiot

Why? Because she's a registered Democrat? Or because she voted for Gore in
2000?

Netsock is that same Chris idiot that used to come in here and post his
killfile list like he thought anyone really cared. He's the one that has
that turbune powered boat built with daddys money.
I think he uses the boat to get laid - or try to impress us - or something.
All he ever talks about in here is his killfile.

-W



"dixon" wrote in message
news:rdoZc.82593$9d6.281@attbi_s54...


--
Dixon
"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"dixon" wrote in message
news:VHkZc.81765$9d6.25723@attbi_s54...
Jim- Please don't confuse me with "conservative friends". I was being
sarcastic. I was at the opening showing of Moores 9/11, and loved
every
second of it.

Dixon

Dixon-Please dont confuse me with as "sympathetic" to OT posters. I am
not
being sarcastic. I saw Moores 9/11, and loved every minute of it.

However, one would have to be a rude inconsiderate a**hole to discuss it
here.


Just curious about your "It's just about going fast...that's all...". How
fast you been on the water Netsock?
*ploink*


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

Clams Canino wrote:

Netsock is that same Chris idiot that used to come in here and post his
killfile list like he thought anyone really cared. He's the one that has
that turbune powered boat built with daddys money.
I think he uses the boat to get laid - or try to impress us - or something.
All he ever talks about in here is his killfile.

-W



Aka John Smith and Comcast?
You decide.


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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
k.net...
Netsock is that same Chris idiot that used to come in here and post his
killfile list like he thought anyone really cared. He's the one that has
that turbune powered boat built with daddys money.
I think he uses the boat to get laid - or try to impress us - or
something.
All he ever talks about in here is his killfile.

-W

LOL! I have never tried to hide my identity...my boat is listed under my
name at Lea's site.

And yes...I have posted my kill file list...so what? There are more people
here than you know, that don't want to wad through all the OT bullcrap that
is here.

And where on earth did you get the idea that my boat was "built with daddys
money"? Have you resorted to pure fabrication? I built, own, paid for, and
hold title to my Rogers turbine powered boat...along with two other boats if
you must know.

My father is 69 years old, and aside from doing some leg work (during the
day, while I was at my day job), and helping a little in the construction,
he had little to do with it. My brother also helped...as did some of my
friends, but that doesn't mean the boat doesn't belong to me.

And getting laid? LOL! I don't need a boat to do that. In fact, I rarely
take it out during "peak" hours...the Rogers is more for R&D than
anything...it seems to get too much attention when the lake is busy.

You see my challenged friend, boaters...especially performance
boaters...build their boats with friends and family...its a social agenda,
that all enjoy. Simply because somebody gives somebody a hand, doesn't mean
the boat doesn't "belong" to the owner. The friendship, the fun, and the
comradery, are all about such a project...obviously three things you know
nothing about...

Of course, you are probably another one of those political trolls, who
doesn't even have a boat, so it doesnt really matter..

BTW, if I could figure out how to post my kill file from Outlook...I would.

Good luck in life. :)


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net...
"jps" wrote in message
...

BTW--She's a registered Democrat who voted for Gore in 2000.

She's an idiot

Why? Because she's a registered Democrat? Or because she voted for Gore in
2000?

You have GOT to be the most narrow minded human on earth.

"basskisser" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"jps" wrote in message
...

BTW--She's a registered Democrat who voted for Gore in 2000.

She's an idiot

Why? Because she's a registered Democrat? Or because she voted for
Gore in
2000?

You have GOT to be the most narrow minded human on earth.

Hey, I didn't say it...jps did.

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"jps" wrote in message
...

BTW--She's a registered Democrat who voted for Gore in 2000.

She's an idiot

Why? Because she's a registered Democrat? Or because she voted for
Gore in
2000?

You have GOT to be the most narrow minded human on earth.

Hey, I didn't say it...jps did.



ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

"Netsock" wrote in message news:ch732u$8i2

Of course, you are probably another one of those political trolls, who
doesn't even have a boat, so it doesnt really matter..

Actually, I'd venture to say that I'm this newsgroups foremost source for
info on the old Mercury inlines. My boat is besides the point, my marine
shop on Lake Harwell is however gathering steam.
The only time I tend to post to a political thread is to call a blatant foul
or to speculate a bit into future unfoldings.

BTW, if I could figure out how to post my kill file from Outlook...I
would.

I'm sure you would, and that's been your trouble here - you think anyone
really *cares* whom *you* killfile and why, you're not that important so
deflate your hat size.

Further Chris, the whole concept of the killfile is the wrong approach
here - because except for less than a handfull of people, the ones that post
OT are also some of the more informed boaters, they just seem to enjoy
killing each other over politics for amusement. The real way to "fix" this
newsgroup is by using the FILTER and setting it up to hide/delete the OT
posts. This can be done quietly, easily. and without a lot of fanfare. And
when a political junkie decides to actually post something ON topic - it
gets through.

You seem to enjoy making it "personal" which is why you've been continually
attacked in here.

-W

I don't think that was, or is, the problem Harry. There was simply a policy
position that the crew cooperated. The security of the door was immaterial.
Simply stick a knife at the throat of a flight attendant and they would open
up.

If militants with real arms can penetrate an airplane the bullet proof
doors are not a significant factor. Opening locked doors is known art.

Simply changing to a policy of resisting at all cost combined with a little
bit of entry security really stops hi-jacking. There is no way that
passengers will cooperate with hijackers at this point.

The airport security stuff is all window dressing so the gov. can claim they
are doing something. What they are doing is screwing up a reasonably good
system to pander to the publics fear.

Check the Russian problems. We going to put armed marshalls in all the
schools and entertainment halls? The Chechen have perfectly well
demonstrated how to turn the most simple institutions of our society into
terror objects.

Nahh the whole thing is silly. You kill them were they live. You
infiltrate and counter. All the other stuff suppresses freedom not terror.

Jim

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
WaIIy wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:44:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Paul Schilter wrote:
dixon,
Well true enough, before 9/11 a highjacking meant you had to
detour to
Cuba, nothing to get too excited about.
Paul

In the early 1970's, some fool hijacked a Fairchild-Hiller prop jet from
White Plains, NY, and demanded to be flown to somewhere out on Long
Island.

At least one aspect of the ease of airliner hijackings should have been
resolved years ago...the cockpit door and the bulkhead between the
cockpit and cabins should have been burst-proof and bullet-proof long
before 9-11, and the door should remain closed during the flight.

I agree with you on this one. It's shame on all administrations for not
getting this done.

It's more than just a political problem that our Executive or
legislative branches should have addressed. After the first few
hijackings decades ago, it should have occurred to the airlines and
their suppliers that serious security reinforcement was needed between
the cockpit and the cabin. Building in such security during the design
phase is simple and cheap; retrofitting is expensive.


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And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Clams Canino wrote:

Further Chris, the whole concept of the killfile is the wrong approach
here - because except for less than a handfull of people, the ones that post
OT are also some of the more informed boaters, they just seem to enjoy
killing each other over politics for amusement.


There are no "informed boaters" in my bozo bin, just, at the moment,
Comcast News, John Smith, Cleesturtle, Jim-, Dan S. P. Fritz, Bomar, and
John S. I cannot recall a single boating-related post from these bozos
that I found informative, interesting, or even entertaining. In fact,
most of them don't put up any posts that are really boating-related.
I probably ought to add John H and one or two others...the boating posts
they occasionally put up here are devoid of useful or interesting
information.



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And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Another example of Basskissers FAS and excessive drug use.


"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"jps" wrote in message
...

BTW--She's a registered Democrat who voted for Gore in 2000.

She's an idiot

Why? Because she's a registered Democrat? Or because she voted for
Gore in
2000?

You have GOT to be the most narrow minded human on earth.

Hey, I didn't say it...jps did.

Harry don't you hate having to pretend you don't read my posts?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Clams Canino wrote:

Netsock is that same Chris idiot that used to come in here and post his
killfile list like he thought anyone really cared. He's the one that has
that turbune powered boat built with daddys money.
I think he uses the boat to get laid - or try to impress us - or
something.
All he ever talks about in here is his killfile.

-W



Aka John Smith and Comcast?
You decide.


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Harry,
You don't come to rec.boats to read boating posts, you come here to hurl
insults.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Clams Canino wrote:

Further Chris, the whole concept of the killfile is the wrong approach
here - because except for less than a handfull of people, the ones that
post
OT are also some of the more informed boaters, they just seem to enjoy
killing each other over politics for amusement.


There are no "informed boaters" in my bozo bin, just, at the moment,
Comcast News, John Smith, Cleesturtle, Jim-, Dan S. P. Fritz, Bomar, and
John S. I cannot recall a single boating-related post from these bozos
that I found informative, interesting, or even entertaining. In fact,
most of them don't put up any posts that are really boating-related.
I probably ought to add John H and one or two others...the boating posts
they occasionally put up here are devoid of useful or interesting
information.



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And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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dixon wrote:

After seeing the movie 9/11, I saw some very obvious lies on moores
part.
The part is surely trick photography where bush sits in a class of
kids
with
a deer in the headlights look on his face for seven minutes after
hearing
the country is being attacked. No world leader, in this nuclear age
would
ever do anything that stupid. Is moore seriously trying to make us
believe
that with jet pilots working like a nascar pit crew to practice
getting
airborne quickly, the president would be such an idiot to do nothing
while
planes were on thier way to the pentagon? Other than this everything
else
seemed believable in the movie.

--


--
Dixon


This is very interesting, and a view that is common with our
conservative friends.

Dixon says "some very obvious lies", then points out one thing that's
undeniably true, then says "Other than this everything else seemed
believable in the movie."

Where are the obvious lies?

There are a number of them. One of them, for instance, is the claim that
Bush was responsible for members of the Saudi family leaving the US 2
days
after 9/11.

He was! His administration made the damned arrangements.

Actually, it was just one seedy, partisan, and underhanded individual named
Richard Clarke who made the arrangements. Go check your facts!

Are you REALLY, HONESTLY saying that Richard Clarke did so without ANY
input from Bush? Really, now, tell me the truth, do you actually
believe that??? If so, I've got some land I'd like to sell you...

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
ink.net...


dixon wrote:

After seeing the movie 9/11, I saw some very obvious lies on
moores
part.
The part is surely trick photography where bush sits in a class
of
kids
with
a deer in the headlights look on his face for seven minutes
after
hearing
the country is being attacked. No world leader, in this nuclear
age
would
ever do anything that stupid. Is moore seriously trying to make
us
believe
that with jet pilots working like a nascar pit crew to practice
getting
airborne quickly, the president would be such an idiot to do
nothing
while
planes were on thier way to the pentagon? Other than this
everything
else
seemed believable in the movie.

--


--
Dixon


This is very interesting, and a view that is common with our
conservative friends.

Dixon says "some very obvious lies", then points out one thing
that's
undeniably true, then says "Other than this everything else seemed
believable in the movie."

Where are the obvious lies?

There are a number of them. One of them, for instance, is the claim
that
Bush was responsible for members of the Saudi family leaving the US
2
days
after 9/11.

He was! His administration made the damned arrangements.

Actually, it was just one seedy, partisan, and underhanded individual
named
Richard Clarke who made the arrangements. Go check your facts!

Are you REALLY, HONESTLY saying that Richard Clarke did so without ANY
input from Bush? Really, now, tell me the truth, do you actually
believe that??? If so, I've got some land I'd like to sell you...

"It didn't get any higher than me," Clarke said. "On 9-11, 9-12 and 9-13,
many things didn't get any higher than me. I decided it in consultation with
the FBI."

Hamilton said in an interview Friday that when he told Democratic senators
that the commission did not know who authorized the Saudi flights, he was
not fully informed.

"They asked the question 'Who authorized the flight?' and I said I did not
know and I'd try to find out," Hamilton said. "I learned subsequently from
talking to the staff that we thought Clarke authorized the flight and it did
not go higher."


http://www.hillnews.com/news/052604/clarke.aspx

"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
ink.net...


dixon wrote:

After seeing the movie 9/11, I saw some very obvious lies on moores
part.
The part is surely trick photography where bush sits in a class of
kids
with
a deer in the headlights look on his face for seven minutes after
hearing
the country is being attacked. No world leader, in this nuclear age
would
ever do anything that stupid. Is moore seriously trying to make us
believe
that with jet pilots working like a nascar pit crew to practice
getting
airborne quickly, the president would be such an idiot to do nothing
while
planes were on thier way to the pentagon? Other than this everything
else
seemed believable in the movie.

--


--
Dixon


This is very interesting, and a view that is common with our
conservative friends.

Dixon says "some very obvious lies", then points out one thing that's
undeniably true, then says "Other than this everything else seemed
believable in the movie."

Where are the obvious lies?

There are a number of them. One of them, for instance, is the claim that
Bush was responsible for members of the Saudi family leaving the US 2
days
after 9/11.

He was! His administration made the damned arrangements.

Actually, it was just one seedy, partisan, and underhanded individual named
Richard Clarke who made the arrangements. Go check your facts!

Hmm, okay....

First:
1. THE FLIGHTS - WHO GOT OUT WHEN

The facts stated in Fahrenheit 9/11 are well documented and are based
entirely on the findings contained in the 9/11 commission draft
report, which states, "After the airspace reopened, six chartered
flights with 142 people, mostly Saudi Arabian nationals, departed from
the United States between September 14 and 24. One flight, the
so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20
with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin."
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
Threats and Responses in 2001, Staff Statement No. 10, The Saudi
Flights, p. 12

Unfortunately, some news organizations have misinterpreted what the
film says. Some have said Fahrenheit 9/11 alleges that these flights
out of the country took place when commercial airplanes were still
grounded. The film does not say this. The film states clearly that
these flights left after September 13 (the day the FAA began to slowly
lift the ban on air traffic).

2. WHO APPROVED THESE FLIGHTS AND WHY

We really do not know why it was so necessary for the White House to
allow the quick exodus of these Saudi and bin Ladens out of the
country, and "the White House still refuses to document fully how the
flights were arranged," according to a June 20, 2004, article by Phil
Shenon in the New York Times .

We do know who asked for help in getting Saudis out of the country -
the Saudi government. National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon
the United States, Threats and Responses in 2001, Staff Statement No.
10, The Saudi Flights, p. 12 The film also includes a television
interview with Saudi Prince Bandar, confirming this as well.

Former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke has testified that he
approved these flights, stating that "it was a conscious decision with
complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the
FBI and the White House." Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former
Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate
Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003.

3. DID THESE INDIVIDUALS GET SPECIAL TREATMENT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT?

Yes, according to Jack Cloonan, a former senior agent on the joint
FBI-CIA Al-Qaeda task force, who is interviewed in Fahrenheit 9/11.
Cloonan raises questions about the type of investigation to which
these individuals were subjected, finding it highly unusual that in
light of the seriousness of the attack on 9/11, bin Laden family
members were allowed to leave the country and escape without anyone
getting their statements on record in any kind of formal proceeding,
and with little more than a brief interview.

Most Saudis who left were not interviewed at all by the FBI. In fact,
of the 142 Saudis on these flights, only 30 were interviewed. National
Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Threats and
Responses in 2001, Staff Statement No. 10, The Saudi Flights, p. 12

The film puts this in perspective. Imagine President Clinton
facilitating the exit of members of the McVeigh family out of the
country following the Oklahoma City bombing. Or compare this treatment
to the hundreds of people detained following the 9/11 attacks who were
held without charges for months on end, who had no relationship to
Osama bin Laden.

The question, which has never been answered, is what was the rush in
getting these individuals out of the country? As Cloonan says, ""If I
had to inconvenience a member of the bin Laden family with a subpoena
or a Grand Jury, do you think I'd lose any sleep over it? Not for a
minute Mike... [Y]ou got a lawyer? Fine. Counselor? Fine. Mr. Bin
Laden, this is why I'm asking you, it's not because I think that
you're anything. I just want to ask you the questions that I would
anybody."

4. ADDITIONAL FACTS NOT REPORTED IN FAHRENHEIT 9/11 THAT SUPPORT THE
FILM'S THESIS

First, the US Customs and Border Protection document released by the
Department of Homeland Security under the FOIA, Feb 24, 2004 lists 162
Saudi Nationals who flew out of the country between 9.11.2001 and
9.15.2001 .

Second, even though Fahrenheit does not make the allegation, on June
9, 2004, news reports confirmed that, "Two days after the Sept. 11
attacks, with most of the nation's air traffic still grounded, a small
jet landed at Tampa International Airport, picked up three young Saudi
men and left. The men, one of them thought to be a member of the Saudi
royal family, were accompanied by a former FBI agent and a former
Tampa police officer on the flight to Lexington, Ky. The Saudis then
took another flight out of the country."

Moreover, "For nearly three years, White House, aviation and law
enforcement officials have insisted the flight never took place and
have denied published reports and widespread Internet speculation
about its purpose... The terrorism panel, better known as the 9/11
Commission, said in April that it knew of six chartered flights with
142 people aboard, mostly Saudis, that left the United States between
Sept. 14 and 24, 2001. But it has said nothing about the Tampa flight…
The 9/11 Commission, which has said the flights out of the United
States were handled appropriately by the FBI, appears concerned with
the handling of the Tampa flight.

"Most of the aircraft allowed to fly in U.S. airspace on Sept. 13 were
empty airliners being ferried from the airports where they made quick
landings on Sept. 11. The reopening of the airspace included paid
charter flights, but not private, nonrevenue flights." Jean Heller,
TIA now verifies flight of Saudis; The government has long denied that
two days after the 9/11 attacks, the three were allowed to fly.
St. Petersburg Times, June 9, 2004

Hey Netsock, are you a member of S&F? Great group for performance boaters.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
k.net...
Netsock is that same Chris idiot that used to come in here and post his
killfile list like he thought anyone really cared. He's the one that
has
that turbune powered boat built with daddys money.
I think he uses the boat to get laid - or try to impress us - or
something.
All he ever talks about in here is his killfile.

-W

LOL! I have never tried to hide my identity...my boat is listed under my
name at Lea's site.

And yes...I have posted my kill file list...so what? There are more people
here than you know, that don't want to wad through all the OT bullcrap
that
is here.

And where on earth did you get the idea that my boat was "built with
daddys
money"? Have you resorted to pure fabrication? I built, own, paid for, and
hold title to my Rogers turbine powered boat...along with two other boats
if
you must know.

My father is 69 years old, and aside from doing some leg work (during the
day, while I was at my day job), and helping a little in the construction,
he had little to do with it. My brother also helped...as did some of my
friends, but that doesn't mean the boat doesn't belong to me.

And getting laid? LOL! I don't need a boat to do that. In fact, I rarely
take it out during "peak" hours...the Rogers is more for R&D than
anything...it seems to get too much attention when the lake is busy.

You see my challenged friend, boaters...especially performance
boaters...build their boats with friends and family...its a social agenda,
that all enjoy. Simply because somebody gives somebody a hand, doesn't
mean
the boat doesn't "belong" to the owner. The friendship, the fun, and the
comradery, are all about such a project...obviously three things you know
nothing about...

Of course, you are probably another one of those political trolls, who
doesn't even have a boat, so it doesnt really matter..

BTW, if I could figure out how to post my kill file from Outlook...I
would.

Good luck in life. :)


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

Clarke admitted that he *alone* approved the flights. Why would he protect
the Bush administration after his scathing attack book against Bush?

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...
Actually, I'd venture to say that I'm this newsgroups foremost source for
info on the old Mercury inlines. My boat is besides the point, my marine
shop on Lake Harwell is however gathering steam.

Since I have not had an outboard since I was 17, I dont really follow those
threads. That probably explains why I dont "see" you.

I'm sure you would, and that's been your trouble here - you think anyone
really *cares* whom *you* killfile and why,

I post it so others can simply cut-n-paste it. I only post it to those who
complain about all the OT BS here. If you dont want to use it, fine, but
dont make that desision for everybody here.

you're not that important so
deflate your hat size.

Heh heh...talk about inflated heads...let me quote you...

"...I'm this newsgroups foremost source for
info on the old Mercury inlines."

Easy there big fella... :)

Further Chris, the whole concept of the killfile is the wrong approach
here - because except for less than a handfull of people, the ones that
post
OT are also some of the more informed boaters, they just seem to enjoy
killing each other over politics for amusement.

Not the point. The way I look at it is, if someone is too dumb, rude, and/or
inconsiderate enough to purposly post OT here, and disrupt the group, that
is not the type of person I want *any* advice from...period.

The real way to "fix" this
newsgroup is by using the FILTER and setting it up to hide/delete the OT
posts. This can be done quietly, easily. and without a lot of fanfare. And
when a political junkie decides to actually post something ON topic - it
gets through.

I do use filters as well, but I dont know what you mean when you say less
"fanfare".

You seem to enjoy making it "personal" which is why you've been
continually
attacked in here.

It is personal...that's what kill files are all about.

And being "attacked" here? I don't remember being "attacked" here. Unless
its being done by those already in my kill file, in which case, I couldn't
care less. Again, those people of such caliber, I don't care for anyway.

I like the list I'm getting now very much. When I see someone crying for
help because of all the BS one has to wade thru, I will continue to offer
help. I will also continue to point out those who I kill file.

Lastly, I find it very interesting people are so concerned about being kill
filed. I'm not ashamed of anything I've done here, but I still wouldn't be
offended if someone kill filed me...in fact...maybe that's what you should
do to me...since it appears you don't like hearing from me so much. :)

Take care.

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

"Netsock" wrote in message

Heh heh...talk about inflated heads...let me quote you...

"...I'm this newsgroups foremost source for
info on the old Mercury inlines."

Easy there big fella... :)

No, when I speak about the "direct charge" inlines - it's Ex Cathedra.
That's not ego, it's just a fact of what I do.

It is personal...that's what kill files are all about.

Ding! Thus the H8.


I will also continue to point out those who I kill file.

To what end? You don't think people are smart enough to figure out who
annoys them enough to killfile them? That's how you come off sounding.

Lastly, I find it very interesting people are so concerned about being
kill
filed. I'm not ashamed of anything I've done here, but I still wouldn't be
offended if someone kill filed me...in fact...maybe that's what you should
do to me...since it appears you don't like hearing from me so much. :)

I wouldn't mind hearing from you if you had much more to talk about than
your killfile. And all the OT discussions that discussions of your killfile
have spawed over the years..... it's kind of a circle thing.

And all kidding aside, you WOULD like the Scream and Fly site....

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

Easy there big fella... :)

No, when I speak about the "direct charge" inlines - it's Ex Cathedra.
That's not ego, it's just a fact of what I do.



Good for you! :)



And I too, don't need to feed my ego...I present just the facts as well.


It is personal...that's what kill files are all about.

Ding! Thus the H8.



There you go again, making wrong assumptions. I don't "hate" anyone...I just
don't care to 'listen" to anybody who doesn't have common courtesy, and
consideration for others. Is that really that hard for you to understand?



Again I have to ask...why do you care to whom I "listen" to?



I wouldn't mind hearing from you if you had much more to talk about than
your killfile. And all the OT discussions that discussions of your
killfile
have spawed over the years..... it's kind of a circle thing.

I don't believe discussion *about* the group is off-topic. In fact, I see
nothing more on-topic than that type of discussion. It just like going to a
meeting, and taking some time to comment *about* the meeting place. Hardly
off-topic or out of line by any means...in fact...I would consider it
appropriate.



I will end this with one last query...you called me an "idiot" in your first
reply, which is fine with me...I couldn't care less what you think of me, or
how you came to that determination, but what I *do* take hard exception to,
is liars.



You sated I built my boat "...with daddy's money". Since I know that not to
be true, I also know you have no evidence to present. Would you care to
explain why you chose to make up that lie about my boat?




--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net...
Clarke admitted that he *alone* approved the flights. Why would he protect
the Bush administration after his scathing attack book against Bush?

Former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke has testified that he
approved these flights, stating that "it was a conscious decision with
complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the
FBI and the White House." Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former
Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate
Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
Clarke admitted that he *alone* approved the flights. Why would he
protect
the Bush administration after his scathing attack book against Bush?

Former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke has testified that he
approved these flights, stating that "it was a conscious decision with
complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the
FBI and the White House." Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former
Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate
Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003.

And for that exact reason, Clarke should be indicted for perjury. He
contradicted himself when he admitted in May of this year that he alone, in
consultation with the FBI, granted permission.

"NOYB" wrote in message link.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
Clarke admitted that he *alone* approved the flights. Why would he
protect
the Bush administration after his scathing attack book against Bush?

Former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke has testified that he
approved these flights, stating that "it was a conscious decision with
complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the
FBI and the White House." Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former
Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate
Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003.

And for that exact reason, Clarke should be indicted for perjury. He
contradicted himself when he admitted in May of this year that he alone, in
consultation with the FBI, granted permission.

Nope, you're wrong. Sorry.

"Netsock" wrote in message
-

It is personal...that's what kill files are all about.

Ding! Thus the H8.



There you go again, making wrong assumptions. I don't "hate" anyone...I
just
don't care to 'listen" to anybody who doesn't have common courtesy, and
consideration for others. Is that really that hard for you to understand?

You miss my point. It's the fact that you feel the need to **announce** whom
you killfile that generates the H8. On three different levels. First, it
assumes that everyone else isn't smart enough to figgure out for themselves
who their own personal troublemakers are. Secondly, you're missing out (or
exploiting) the facet of human nature that would assume that people don't
really *want* to be killfiled. Therefore if your intent was *just* to "not
read" these people, you could do it in silence, spare feelings, and not come
off as just another "net nannie". And thirdly you do it in such a pompous
"above it all" manner that you come across more as "little Tommy Ray-gun"
standing on a big hill saying "I got YOU, and YOU, and YOU - that you come
across not as part of the community here. An outsider little kid just
looking for attention.


Again I have to ask...why do you care to whom I "listen" to?

I don't care whom you listen to, I do feel that your constant bleating
**about** your killfile is as disruptive to the overall forum and decorum as
the extant problems you claim to be interested in solving. Why can't you
just killfile in silence? It accomplises all your **stated** objectives.
Unless of course, getting extra attention is one of your background
objectives. Think......

I wouldn't mind hearing from you if you had much more to talk about than
your killfile. And all the OT discussions that discussions of your
killfile
have spawed over the years..... it's kind of a circle thing.

I don't believe discussion *about* the group is off-topic. In fact, I see
nothing more on-topic than that type of discussion. It just like going to
a
meeting, and taking some time to comment *about* the meeting place. Hardly
off-topic or out of line by any means...in fact...I would consider it
appropriate.

Unless you build yourself a reputation as a "one trick pony". You remind me
of the guy that goes to the meeting and then spends ALL NIGHT picking apart
Roberts Rules of Order and fails to ever adress the core reason the meeting
was assembled.


You sated I built my boat "...with daddy's money". Since I know that not
to
be true, I also know you have no evidence to present. Would you care to
explain why you chose to make up that lie about my boat?

I didn't make it up, I just *repeated* it. :)

It's been said here many times before. While it's possibly a lie, it's made
more credible in that you present as a full time OSU student as opposed to
someone out there actually in the workforce. And it also speaks to the fact
that you seem very sheltered as to how the "real world" works and how people
react to varied stimulus. Lastly, the boat itself has the "look and feel" of
an overly funded Science Fair project as opposed to a singular "grass roots"
effort. And coming full circle.... the boat itself has the "hey! come look
at me!!" flavor about it that I'm alleging your "Ill killfile YOU and YOU
and YOU!" posts have.

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
k.net...

You miss my point. It's the fact that you feel the need to **announce**
whom
you killfile that generates the H8.



Then maybe they should start following the rules, then there wouldn't be a
problem, right?



On three different levels. First, it
assumes that everyone else isn't smart enough to figgure out for
themselves
who their own personal troublemakers are.



And how does this affect you again?



Secondly, you're missing out (or
exploiting) the facet of human nature that would assume that people don't
really *want* to be killfiled. Therefore if your intent was *just* to "not
read" these people, you could do it in silence, spare feelings, and not
come
off as just another "net nannie".



Naw. Since you think people don't want to be kill filed, don't you think its
only fair for me to let them know why? :)



And thirdly you do it in such a pompous
"above it all" manner that you come across more as "little Tommy Ray-gun"
standing on a big hill saying "I got YOU, and YOU, and YOU - that you come
across not as part of the community here. An outsider little kid just
looking for attention.



I couldn't care less about attention, but I do like the rest of your
analogy. :)



And you mean there is a "community" here? Care to explain just who that is?
Are *you* speaking for the group...again? And if so, which group? The trolls
and OT posters, or those of us dedicated to boating?



I don't care whom you listen to, I do feel that your constant bleating
**about** your killfile is as disruptive to the overall forum and decorum
as
the extant problems you claim to be interested in solving.



I don't agree. When people see someone standing up, and openly attacking the
problem, that may give them the power to help, or do something as well.



Why can't you
just killfile in silence? It accomplises all your **stated** objectives.
Unless of course, getting extra attention is one of your background
objectives. Think......



I've already explained that.



Unless you build yourself a reputation as a "one trick pony". You remind
me
of the guy that goes to the meeting and then spends ALL NIGHT picking
apart
Roberts Rules of Order and fails to ever adress the core reason the
meeting
was assembled.



And you remind me of the little twerp who hangs around the "big dogs", in a
feeble effort to be part of the "team", even tho you're not wanted. You
remind me of that little yippee cartoon dog, jumping back and forth over the
bull dogs back, yipping "What are we going to do now Spike, what are we
going to do!?"


Think about what you are doing...



You are defending those who are wrong. I don't understand why you don't take
your fight to those who violate the rules here. You are on me because I'm
fighting them. Your actions make no sense at all.



I didn't make it up, I just *repeated* it. :)



You stated it. You didn't say "I heard it" or "someone said"...*you* said
it, and it was a lie, that makes you a liar.

It's been said here many times before.



Bull. I've never heard that before. But again, it may be coming from those
flunkies who are already kill filed, but if that's where you heard it, that
only shows me how ignorant you really are.



While it's possibly a lie, it's made
more credible in that you present as a full time OSU student as opposed to
someone out there actually in the workforce.



(yawn) I'm not a full time student. Are you of those idiots, who if left to
repeat lies long enough, you actually believe them? Or do you just simply
pull crap from your ass?



And it also speaks to the fact
that you seem very sheltered as to how the "real world" works and how
people
react to varied stimulus.



I'm not sheltered at all. Folks who break the rules get pointed out, and I
kill them...its that simple.



Again, you show your intelligence by defending the folks in the "real world"
who regularly, continually, and purposely disrupt the group, and don't
follow rules.



Lastly, the boat itself has the "look and feel" of
an overly funded Science Fair project as opposed to a singular "grass
roots"
effort.



Thanks! Ill take that as a compliment. As a high-performance boat builder
for 25 years, I have always prided myself on attention to detail,
professional work, and buying the best materials. I'm glad the boat turned
out so well...I took turbine maintenance, and theory classes before starting
the project, and those schoolings have obviously paid off.



And coming full circle.... the boat itself has the "hey! come look
at me!!" flavor about it that I'm alleging your "Ill killfile YOU and YOU
and YOU!" posts have.



LOL! I hardly ever talk about my boat here...were do you get this crap?



The red boat was an R & D project...I don't take it out at peak hours, and
in fact, much prefer a lazy day around the lake in the ski boat these days.
But so what about folks who are the "look at me" type? Many, many boaters
build their boat as an extensions of their personalities, and that comes
with big motors, and loud paint jobs. Again...so what? "Look at me" folks
are everywhere, and it comes in many flavors...cars, boats, planes,
motorcycles, houses, and even clothes. It's also a sign of success in many
cases. It seems to me the only people who ever complain about the "look at
me" crowd, are those who are not in it, and jealous.



You need to quit being a puppet, and start thinking for your self. You need
to step back, and take a look at what you're doing. You are defending the
problem here, because you are either too scared, or too dumb to separate
yourself from all the political "big dogs" you are trying to run, and be
chummy with.



Now take a hard look at the name of this group...now you think...




--
-Netsock



"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/