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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On 27 Aug 2004 07:49:55 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: "Jeff Rigby" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message om... I just LOVE it....I wonder what all of you righties, who, here in this very newsgroup, condemmed science, saying that global warming was made up by mad scientists. First, he said it was too soon to blame CO2 as a cause IF there was indeed global warming. IN MY OPINION, The output of the sun and it's cycles need to be looked at FIRST. Has been. What?? can't be done without accuate data on climate temps over many years. The differences that are being talked about are less than 1 degree a decade for the last 30 years. The models predict this but it hasn't happend. They are guessing that we are up 1 degree so the Scientists are saying that without the greenhouse gasses we would have had a small ice age (colder climate because the sun is in a cooling cycle). BUT the SUN is in a warm phase with sunspots peaking this year and should start to cool after this year. Something is wrong here?? Green house gases are created by (in order of the volume produced); Termites, Cows, powerplants, cars, bacteria, other animals including man. It's not the amount of various greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, but the potential for heat trapping of each. Granted, there is a much greater concentration of CO2 and Methane, than CFC's, BUT, what little CFC concentrations are found have a far greater heat trapping potential. There are many of these gases that are found in small concentrations, but have a huge potential, such as low level ozone, Methyl Chloroform, N20, and on and on. Methane is a much more efficient greenhouse gas than CO2. I wasn't aware that CFC's had any effect on global warming. The concern there was ozone depletion. And reports to Congress need to be looked at with a scepticle eye depending on who wrote then and the political agenda behind the commission of the report. I personally wouldn't beleave ANY report generated during an election year! Why is that? These findings have been around for years, it's just that the republicans choose to pull their collective blinders tight! All the coal and oil in the world was once in the air as CO2 and life flurished. Over millions of years it has been trapped out of the air as plant material that was depositied at the bottom of a swamp. Then covered by the land and turned into coal. Then under heat and pressure the coal released oil that pooled in domes that we now tap. All the oil in the world is but a SMALL percentage of the total COAL that is still lying under the earth. CO2 is not the problem, Mercury and lead are! "...all of you righties..."? Is this another wild, unsubstantiated allegation. Have you any proof? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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"John Gaquin" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message .I wonder what all of you righties, who, here in this very newsgroup, condemmed science, saying that global warming was made up by mad scientists. Are you planning on finishing this sentence any time soon? Enquiring minds.... asslicker has been drinking the kerry kool-aid for too long "Richard Lindzen, Ph.D., a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and one of the 11 scientists who prepared the NAS report (and who also contributed to the UN's International Panel on Climate Change), has said so - repeatedly. He has said there were a wide variety of scientific views presented in the report and "that the full report did, [express a wide variety of views] making clear that there is no consensus, unanimous or otherwise, about long-term climate trends and what causes them." The same is true of the all of the U.N.'s IPCC studies to which many reporters refer. Claims that scientific opinion is nearly unanimous on the subject of global warming are wrong. The Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine received signatures from over 17,100 basic and applied American scientists - two-thirds with advanced degrees - to a document saying, "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate." Hmm, would you care to post a link, and/or let everyone view the report in it's entirety, dumb ass? |
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