i'd like to get a 8'-9' inflatable with a 3hp engine.
any suggestions would help.
do i go 2 stroke or 4.
it will be used for light duty.
thanks
jake

jake waldman wrote:

i'd like to get a 8'-9' inflatable with a 3hp engine.
any suggestions would help.
do i go 2 stroke or 4.
it will be used for light duty.
thanks
jake

It's your choice. The small two cycle and four cycle outboards are each
reliable, and don't burn a whole lot of fuel. With the four cycle, you
don't have to mix oil in the gas can, and their exhausts smell better. I
use a no-cycle outboard on my inflatable: an electric trolling motor.

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I have a 9'2" Sevylor XR-86 inflatable. It is powered by a 36 lbs Minn
Kota Endura motor, about the same thrust as a 2.0 or 2.5 hp gas
engine... OK, it doesn't plane. I'm not so sure it would plane with the
maximum 3.5 hp motor. I'm not so sure I'd want to do that anyhow.

Harry Krause wrote:
jake waldman wrote:


i'd like to get a 8'-9' inflatable with a 3hp engine.
any suggestions would help.
do i go 2 stroke or 4.
it will be used for light duty.
thanks
jake


It's your choice. The small two cycle and four cycle outboards are each
reliable, and don't burn a whole lot of fuel. With the four cycle, you
don't have to mix oil in the gas can, and their exhausts smell better. I
use a no-cycle outboard on my inflatable: an electric trolling motor.

Question ... when I did my 36 lb Min Kota calculation afew years back, the
answer I got was about 1/4 hp. Would you mind sharing your calculation (I've
since upgraded to a 55 lb thrust)? Thanks


"user" wrote in message
...
I have a 9'2" Sevylor XR-86 inflatable. It is powered by a 36 lbs Minn
Kota Endura motor, about the same thrust as a 2.0 or 2.5 hp gas
engine... OK, it doesn't plane. I'm not so sure it would plane with the
maximum 3.5 hp motor. I'm not so sure I'd want to do that anyhow.

Harry Krause wrote:
jake waldman wrote:


i'd like to get a 8'-9' inflatable with a 3hp engine.
any suggestions would help.
do i go 2 stroke or 4.
it will be used for light duty.
thanks
jake


It's your choice. The small two cycle and four cycle outboards are each
reliable, and don't burn a whole lot of fuel. With the four cycle, you
don't have to mix oil in the gas can, and their exhausts smell better. I
use a no-cycle outboard on my inflatable: an electric trolling motor.

bowgus wrote:

Question ... when I did my 36 lb Min Kota calculation afew years back, the
answer I got was about 1/4 hp. Would you mind sharing your calculation (I've
since upgraded to a 55 lb thrust)? Thanks


"user" wrote in message
...
I have a 9'2" Sevylor XR-86 inflatable. It is powered by a 36 lbs Minn
Kota Endura motor, about the same thrust as a 2.0 or 2.5 hp gas
engine... OK, it doesn't plane. I'm not so sure it would plane with the
maximum 3.5 hp motor. I'm not so sure I'd want to do that anyhow.

Harry Krause wrote:
jake waldman wrote:


i'd like to get a 8'-9' inflatable with a 3hp engine.
any suggestions would help.
do i go 2 stroke or 4.
it will be used for light duty.
thanks
jake


It's your choice. The small two cycle and four cycle outboards are each
reliable, and don't burn a whole lot of fuel. With the four cycle, you
don't have to mix oil in the gas can, and their exhausts smell better. I
use a no-cycle outboard on my inflatable: an electric trolling motor.




Wouldn't there be a way to compare pounds of thrust? My motorguide
trolling motor produces-oh, I really don't remember-something like 65
pounds of thrust, maybe. How many pounds of thrust might a 3 hp gas
outboard produce at the prop? A similar number? Larger?

The electric trolling motor is enough to push our rubber ducky around
the harbor for a couple of hours, but if it craps out, no worry. We have
oars.

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Well that's the thing ... I did the calculation then, using formulae
scrounged from sources I no longer remember, so ... the answer I got then
was that my electric's 35 lbs thrust was about equivalent to a 1/4 hp
outboard. But I see from "user" that a 36 lbs thrust electric is equal to
about a 2.5 hp (gasoline) outboard ... which is A LOT MORE than I
calculated. And the reason I originally did the calculations was to decide
the purchase of an electric say 60 lbs or a 4 cycle outboard say 3 hp.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
bowgus wrote:

Question ... when I did my 36 lb Min Kota calculation afew years back,
the
answer I got was about 1/4 hp. Would you mind sharing your calculation
(I've
since upgraded to a 55 lb thrust)? Thanks


"user" wrote in message
...
I have a 9'2" Sevylor XR-86 inflatable. It is powered by a 36 lbs Minn
Kota Endura motor, about the same thrust as a 2.0 or 2.5 hp gas
engine... OK, it doesn't plane. I'm not so sure it would plane with the
maximum 3.5 hp motor. I'm not so sure I'd want to do that anyhow.

Harry Krause wrote:
jake waldman wrote:


i'd like to get a 8'-9' inflatable with a 3hp engine.
any suggestions would help.
do i go 2 stroke or 4.
it will be used for light duty.
thanks
jake


It's your choice. The small two cycle and four cycle outboards are
each
reliable, and don't burn a whole lot of fuel. With the four cycle,
you
don't have to mix oil in the gas can, and their exhausts smell
better. I
use a no-cycle outboard on my inflatable: an electric trolling motor.




Wouldn't there be a way to compare pounds of thrust? My motorguide
trolling motor produces-oh, I really don't remember-something like 65
pounds of thrust, maybe. How many pounds of thrust might a 3 hp gas
outboard produce at the prop? A similar number? Larger?

The electric trolling motor is enough to push our rubber ducky around
the harbor for a couple of hours, but if it craps out, no worry. We have
oars.

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Email sent to is never read.

You can not calculate HP from thrust alone. Horsepower is proportional to
force (thrust) times speed. One HP = 550 ft-lb/sec. For example, if an
electric motor can push a boat with a thrust of 35 lb. at a speed of 5 mph
(7.4 fps) the horse power delivered to the boat is:

35 x 7.4/550 = 0.47 HP

Actual motor power would be higher since there are losses from friction,
prop slip, etc.

Unfortunately, I suspect the manufacturers rate the thrust at zero speed
(highest thrust value) so you can't calculate motor HP.

"bowgus" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
Question ... when I did my 36 lb Min Kota calculation afew years back,
the
answer I got was about 1/4 hp. Would you mind sharing your calculation
(I've
since upgraded to a 55 lb thrust)? Thanks


"user" wrote in message
...
I have a 9'2" Sevylor XR-86 inflatable. It is powered by a 36 lbs Minn
Kota Endura motor, about the same thrust as a 2.0 or 2.5 hp gas
engine... OK, it doesn't plane. I'm not so sure it would plane with the
maximum 3.5 hp motor. I'm not so sure I'd want to do that anyhow.

Harry Krause wrote:
jake waldman wrote:


i'd like to get a 8'-9' inflatable with a 3hp engine.
any suggestions would help.
do i go 2 stroke or 4.
it will be used for light duty.
thanks
jake


It's your choice. The small two cycle and four cycle outboards are
each
reliable, and don't burn a whole lot of fuel. With the four cycle, you
don't have to mix oil in the gas can, and their exhausts smell better.
I
use a no-cycle outboard on my inflatable: an electric trolling motor.

I like Mr. Ohms method (used by Loyd) ... convert watts to hp, e.g. ... the
35 lbs thrust Minn Kota is rated 34 Amps max so assuming 12V across the
motor = 408 watts (P=IxE). And converting that to hp by x 0.00134102209 :-)
= 0.55 hp. The calculation for my 55 lb Minn Kota is: 45 Amps x 12V = 540 =
0.72 hp. So good old ohms law calculations say 0.72 hp is the absolute max
(as Loyd pointed out, there's gotta be some mechanical loss in there
somewhere) ... let's call that good old "K".

So hp = f (((I*E)*1.34E-3) - K) :-)

Thanks Loyd, that works for me.


"Bill Sc" wrote in message
om...
You can not calculate HP from thrust alone. Horsepower is proportional to
force (thrust) times speed. One HP = 550 ft-lb/sec. For example, if an
electric motor can push a boat with a thrust of 35 lb. at a speed of 5 mph
(7.4 fps) the horse power delivered to the boat is:

35 x 7.4/550 = 0.47 HP

Actual motor power would be higher since there are losses from friction,
prop slip, etc.

Unfortunately, I suspect the manufacturers rate the thrust at zero speed
(highest thrust value) so you can't calculate motor HP.

"bowgus" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
Question ... when I did my 36 lb Min Kota calculation afew years back,
the
answer I got was about 1/4 hp. Would you mind sharing your calculation
(I've
since upgraded to a 55 lb thrust)? Thanks


"user" wrote in message
...
I have a 9'2" Sevylor XR-86 inflatable. It is powered by a 36 lbs Minn
Kota Endura motor, about the same thrust as a 2.0 or 2.5 hp gas
engine... OK, it doesn't plane. I'm not so sure it would plane with
the
maximum 3.5 hp motor. I'm not so sure I'd want to do that anyhow.

Harry Krause wrote:
jake waldman wrote:


i'd like to get a 8'-9' inflatable with a 3hp engine.
any suggestions would help.
do i go 2 stroke or 4.
it will be used for light duty.
thanks
jake


It's your choice. The small two cycle and four cycle outboards are
each
reliable, and don't burn a whole lot of fuel. With the four cycle,
you
don't have to mix oil in the gas can, and their exhausts smell
better.
I
use a no-cycle outboard on my inflatable: an electric trolling
motor.

http://www.shipstore.com/ss/HTML/MIN/MIN1352363.html
I took their word for it...
May be right, may be wrong. Bought the inflatable and motor from these
people. Have been to their marina for fuel and lunch. They are good
competent people... but may very well be way off.

bowgus wrote:
Question ... when I did my 36 lb Min Kota calculation afew years back, the
answer I got was about 1/4 hp. Would you mind sharing your calculation (I've
since upgraded to a 55 lb thrust)? Thanks

Get what ever size inflatable you want but put the BIGGEST outboard it will
take.You won't regret it later. I would recommend a 4 stroke.
IMHO Larry Hill