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Slambram August 3rd 04 08:13 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ

Harry Krause August 3rd 04 08:19 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
Slambram wrote:

My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ


I'd avoid taking the woman with you.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Doug Kanter August 3rd 04 08:23 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
Ask her if the pregnancy's pretty much normal, and if the answer is yes, go
for it. But, if you're not sure whether your cell phone works on that lake,
perhaps someone else in the group can bring theirs, if it's from a different
provider. Finally, poke around the web for "first responder" tips for
delivering a baby. :-)

"Slambram" wrote in message
...
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ




Doug Kanter August 3rd 04 08:33 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Slambram wrote:

My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ


I'd avoid taking the woman with you.


No guts!!!! :-)



Harry Krause August 3rd 04 08:34 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Slambram wrote:

My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ


I'd avoid taking the woman with you.


No guts!!!! :-)



Hey...there's no place to boil water on that boat, right?



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Doug Kanter August 3rd 04 08:43 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Slambram wrote:

My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any

risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know

how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i

making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ

I'd avoid taking the woman with you.


No guts!!!! :-)



Hey...there's no place to boil water on that boat, right?


You only need that if you're going to make soup out of the baby. :-)

drum crash

But seriously, take along a few extra clean towels in a plastic bag, a
working camera and some bourbon.



Doug Kanter August 3rd 04 08:45 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
And ya know what else? If the baby's born on the boat, it might be unique
enough for the local paper's reporter to be waiting on the shore for a
story. The new mom will probably get some freebies out of her brief moment
of fame. :-)



Slambram August 3rd 04 08:52 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:43:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:



Hey...there's no place to boil water on that boat, right?


You only need that if you're going to make soup out of the baby. :-)

drum crash


I knew that alcohol stove was good for something besides burning the
boat to the waterline.

Her barefoot at the stove sounds like a good Kodak moment.



Slambram August 3rd 04 08:55 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:45:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

And ya know what else? If the baby's born on the boat, it might be unique
enough for the local paper's reporter to be waiting on the shore for a
story. The new mom will probably get some freebies out of her brief moment
of fame. :-)


True. I might even have to change the boat's name - or make her name
the boy Triple Crown.

Seriously though, one thing i'm worried about is stares at the docks
similar to if she was smoking or drinking. But i don't really care
what others think as long as i'm absolutely certain i'm being
responsible.

Doug Kanter August 3rd 04 09:01 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 

"Slambram" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:45:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

And ya know what else? If the baby's born on the boat, it might be unique
enough for the local paper's reporter to be waiting on the shore for a
story. The new mom will probably get some freebies out of her brief

moment
of fame. :-)


True. I might even have to change the boat's name - or make her name
the boy Triple Crown.

Seriously though, one thing i'm worried about is stares at the docks
similar to if she was smoking or drinking. But i don't really care
what others think as long as i'm absolutely certain i'm being
responsible.


I guess *some* common sense is in order here. Most of the time, a good
captain can deal with boat wakes and choppy water, and still provide a
smooth ride. But sometimes, it's simply not possible. On a day like that,
maybe she shouldn't be aboard. But other than that, I don't see a problem.
And, if it's a really calm day, the baby will feel right at home, even
though it's dark in there.



Don White August 3rd 04 09:09 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
We took one of our semi regular crew mwmbers sailing between her 5th & 6th
month. We were a bit concerned but everything worked out well. Of course we
stayed in the harbour where it was fairly calm.



Gary Warner August 3rd 04 11:47 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 

I would not be too concerned with the baby coming early or
with the mom or baby's comfort. I'm going to assume the
baby won't come that early and that any discomfort, while
....um...uncomfortable, won't harm anyone.

My concern would be what happens in an emergency? Is
that water cold to the point of harm? Can mother use
the PDF's you have? Etc.

I think I'd try to get a quiet moment with just me and
the mom so that any influences from others that might
want her to go or stay are gone. Then explain calmly
your few small concerns and ask her if she's OK with
those. Let it be (mostly) her call.




Jeff Morris August 4th 04 01:02 AM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
We took our last overnight (2 or 3 nights, actually, on a Nonsuch 30) when my
wife was 8 months pregnant. We wanted to go ashore but my wife didn't want to
help with the dink, so we rowed over to a dink-less cruiser and asked if they
wanted to go ashore. They were a bit taken aback when they realized our true
motive.

We went out the following two weeks, but not for an overnight. At 8 3/4 months,
we took a tour of a newly commissioned destroyer. My wife got a lot of stares
as she waddled around, but I think she passed on a few of the companionways and
ladders.

The baby was onboard at 10 days, sailing at three weeks, and carried around the
Newport Boat Show at 5 weeks. Now has maybe 10,000 miles under her keel,
including a full year aboard.

She'd trade it all for a pony in a heartbeat!



"Slambram" wrote in message
...
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ




RichG August 4th 04 02:38 AM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
I'd guess I'd ask her to "please check first with your doctor" that way,
the onus is on her..not you. If the doc says OK...it's back on him/her!
RichG

--
RichG manager, Carolina Skiff Owners Group on MSN
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners
"Slambram" wrote in message
...
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ




Calif Bill August 4th 04 07:10 AM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 

"Slambram" wrote in message
...
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ


YOu are not 100 miles at sea. I guess she should not ride in the car more
than 1 few minutes from the hospital either. A cruiser wake is not going to
cause any more action than her normal waddle.
Bill



Doug Kanter August 4th 04 02:59 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

I would not be too concerned with the baby coming early or
with the mom or baby's comfort. I'm going to assume the
baby won't come that early and that any discomfort, while
...um...uncomfortable, won't harm anyone.

My concern would be what happens in an emergency? Is
that water cold to the point of harm? Can mother use
the PDF's you have? Etc.

I think I'd try to get a quiet moment with just me and
the mom so that any influences from others that might
want her to go or stay are gone. Then explain calmly
your few small concerns and ask her if she's OK with
those. Let it be (mostly) her call.




And: Is it a lake where there's a regular patrol by cops, so there's a
chance of finding someone REALLY trained in first-responder type medical
stuff? I don't mean a floating ambulance, but lots of cops are pretty good
at getting things under control until EMTs arrive.



Doug Kanter August 4th 04 03:01 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
Something just dawned on me. Other boats' wakes may not present a problem as
far as turbulence and pounding, but what about her altered sense of balance?
Does the boat have enough solid things (rails, etc) to hang onto so she
doesn't need to be stuck in a chair all day? And, on the subject of balance,
someone else asked if there's a life vest that'll fit her. Good point.



"Slambram" wrote in message
...
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ




basskisser August 4th 04 05:35 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net...
"Slambram" wrote in message
...
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ


YOu are not 100 miles at sea. I guess she should not ride in the car more
than 1 few minutes from the hospital either. A cruiser wake is not going to
cause any more action than her normal waddle.
Bill



What to hell is a "1 few minutes"? Kind of wish you didn't call others
dumb for not thoroughly checking posts??

Calif Bill August 4th 04 07:58 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

ink.net...
"Slambram" wrote in message
...
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ


YOu are not 100 miles at sea. I guess she should not ride in the car

more
than 1 few minutes from the hospital either. A cruiser wake is not

going to
cause any more action than her normal waddle.
Bill



What to hell is a "1 few minutes"? Kind of wish you didn't call others
dumb for not thoroughly checking posts??


A small typo really proves that you are a true asshole Kevin!



Curtis CCR August 4th 04 08:27 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
Something just dawned on me. Other boats' wakes may not present a problem as
far as turbulence and pounding, but what about her altered sense of balance?
Does the boat have enough solid things (rails, etc) to hang onto so she
doesn't need to be stuck in a chair all day? And, on the subject of balance,
someone else asked if there's a life vest that'll fit her. Good point.


We're talking about a 22' boat. Not likely much room for walking
around, though getting on and off the boat may be an issue.

We just had a baby in January - my wife was done with our boat (36')
by November. Just too uncomfortable. We didn't take our annual week
boating trip in October.

Keep in mind that pregant women can go from feeling good to feeling
lousy very quickly... several times a day. She may be far more prone
to motion sickness than she thinks, etc. My feeling would be that she
would be a big liability to having a good time. If she get
uncomfortable, everyone else will be miserable too.

And yeah - good point on the PFD. And keep in mind that if there is
an accident, the risk of serious injury to her or the baby are
greater.



"Slambram" wrote in message
...
My girlfriend's 8-month pregnant sister wants to come out on the boat
with us for a day. She seems surprisingly unconcerned about any risks
associated with being on a boat. I'm not a doctor so i don't know how
much risk is involved, but as the captain it's my responsibility and
ultimately my call. We would be going to an inland lake instead of
the "big lake" (St. Clair, MI), but a cruiser wake here and there is
still inevitable.

Would you want anything to do with this responsibility, or am i making
much ado about nothing?

Thanks, -JZ


Doug Kanter August 4th 04 08:32 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
om...


Keep in mind that pregant women can go from feeling good to feeling
lousy very quickly... several times a day. She may be far more prone
to motion sickness than she thinks, etc.


A generalization. My wife still says she never felt healthier than when she
was pregnant, right up till the end.



CJK August 4th 04 09:47 PM

8-mo. Pregnant Woman OK on 22ft. Boat?
 
My wife went out on our 24 footer several times up til the end of the 8th
month, and as long as it was fairly calm, she had no issues, other than when
I wanted to open her up and go fast, but at 30 or 40 she was fine and
actually felt pretty swimming since it was a buoyancy thing :)



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
om...


Keep in mind that pregant women can go from feeling good to feeling
lousy very quickly... several times a day. She may be far more prone
to motion sickness than she thinks, etc.


A generalization. My wife still says she never felt healthier than when
she
was pregnant, right up till the end.






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