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mijoy August 1st 04 10:08 PM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000 engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




NOYB August 1st 04 10:16 PM

life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 

"mijoy" wrote in message
...
I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.



Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000

engine?

I dunno. What kind of maintenance schedule did you follow?

Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year

on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is the
very funny gentleman who replied correct?


I'm really not that funny.



Greg August 2nd 04 01:15 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
I use mine about 400 a year and the 2002 60 merc 4 stroke came with a 5 year
warranty. We will see huh?
They already tore it down at 600 for a cooling problem ... for free. (power
head to leg gasket problem.)

Short Wave Sportfishing August 2nd 04 01:43 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 17:08:06 -0400, "mijoy"
wrote:

I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000 engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(


I'd take up knitting if I were you. :)

Later,

Tom

mijoy August 2nd 04 02:20 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
Sounds like a good idea, I thank you for it. I'll be forwarding a quilt
jock strap for you.
Extra small?





"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 17:08:06 -0400, "mijoy"
wrote:

I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000

engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year

on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean

going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(


I'd take up knitting if I were you. :)

Later,

Tom




Sean Elkins August 2nd 04 03:19 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
In article , "mijoy"
wrote:

Sounds like a good idea, I thank you for it. I'll be forwarding a quilt
jock strap for you.
Extra small?





ZING!!!!

ROTFLMAO!!!






"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 17:08:06 -0400, "mijoy"
wrote:

I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000

engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year

on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean

going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(


I'd take up knitting if I were you. :)

Later,

Tom


--
Sean Elkins RKBA

Being a talented actor or musician doesn't make some
drop-out's political ideas more valuable or enlightened
than mine.
**************************************************

jim-- August 2nd 04 01:17 PM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 

"K. Smith" wrote in message
...
mijoy wrote:
I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000

engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year

on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is

the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean

going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




300 hrs a year?? in Phil? area that's over 10 hrs per week in the
season being generous & 2 X 100 Hp is what?? minimum 20 kt cruise??

Unless you're a commercial user how do you manage to rack that many
hours up???

Anyway just asking.

K


Hell, Krause has just claimed to have over $1100 in diesel and $800 in
gasoline purchases already for his *boats* (wink, wink). Just previous to
that claim he was talking about the large amount of time he is spending on
political campaigning this year.

Go figure. He-he-he.



Harry Krause August 2nd 04 01:21 PM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
jim-- wrote:



Hell, Krause has just claimed to have over $1100 in diesel and $800 in
gasoline purchases already for his *boats* (wink, wink).



That's right, crap for brains. And yesterday, I added $105 to the
gasoline total.

Of course, since you spent most of your time at the dock when you
allegedly had a boat...

How's your wife, Dennis? Ready to get into boating again?



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

jim-- August 2nd 04 01:24 PM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:



Hell, Krause has just claimed to have over $1100 in diesel and $800 in
gasoline purchases already for his *boats* (wink, wink).



That's right, crap for brains. And yesterday, I added $105 to the
gasoline total.


I am sure the head boat owner appreciated the tip.



K. Smith August 2nd 04 01:33 PM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
mijoy wrote:
I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000 engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




300 hrs a year?? in Phil? area that's over 10 hrs per week in the
season being generous & 2 X 100 Hp is what?? minimum 20 kt cruise??

Unless you're a commercial user how do you manage to rack that many
hours up???

Anyway just asking.

K

basskisser August 2nd 04 08:31 PM

life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"mijoy" wrote in message
...
I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.



Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000

engine?

I dunno. What kind of maintenance schedule did you follow?

Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year

on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is the
very funny gentleman who replied correct?


I'm really not that funny.


And not very bright, either. You are making assumptions here, and
don't know crap about the application, maintenence, etc., etc., but
think you can automatically make the claim that he "bought a lemon"?

Greg August 2nd 04 09:44 PM

life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
I put 3000 hours on my old Mariner/Merc 75 2 stroke but it was George
Washington's hatchet by the time I was done. I rebuilt or replaced almost
everything that bolts on the engine. (electrical parts, tilt hydraulics, carbs
etc)
I never had to go into the foot or the power head tho and it was running strong
when I sold it.
Let's see how the 4 stroke does.


mijoy August 3rd 04 02:19 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
Not sure what you are asking but the way I look at 300 hours is 30 days
worth of 10 hour days.
Not really all that much. I begin boating in mid-April and end in November.
Some days giant tuna fishing can be 16-20 hours on the water with most of it
being with the engine running.

Adds up quickly. Too quickly.

"K. Smith" wrote in message
...
mijoy wrote:
I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000

engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year

on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is

the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean

going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




300 hrs a year?? in Phil? area that's over 10 hrs per week in the
season being generous & 2 X 100 Hp is what?? minimum 20 kt cruise??

Unless you're a commercial user how do you manage to rack that many
hours up???

Anyway just asking.

K




K. Smith August 3rd 04 02:39 PM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
mijoy wrote:
Not sure what you are asking but the way I look at 300 hours is 30 days
worth of 10 hour days.


OK so subtlety is missed around here all too often, I now find it best
to just say outright; you're full of it. Granted you're not as stupid as
Harry but hey you can probably breath unassisted:-)

Not really all that much.


Yes it "really" is up where you are!!! As I said; save you're a
commercial user, 30 X 10 hr days of pleasure use in a short season; come
on just put your hands up & we'll forget this little story:-) Like
Harry the liar & many other lame BS'ers you well overshot the made up
claim:-)

I begin boating in mid-April and end in November.
Some days giant tuna fishing can be 16-20 hours on the water with most of it
being with the engine running.


"Giant" tuna fishing "Giant"???? yes of course:-) & gee 6 "full" months
at that latitude?? You are one tough BS'er you certainly are. The only
thing getting "giant" about this story is your nose:-)

Adds up quickly. Too quickly.


What adds up is you should stop digging now before you actually pop
out down he-) (you're allowed to check my headers as I am yours:-)),
honestly sometimes I get concerned that others even take this BS
seriously, as for you?? I'm not concerned at all you'll be just fine &
keep selling!! selling!! selling!! something to anyone you can somewhere.

Don't be too concerned about the few hundred dollars your "story"
complains about for maintenance, damn 100HP X 2 at cruise are burning
14-15 US gals/hr @ say $2/gal?? or say those 10 hr days???:-) According
to your own claim you're spending $300 a day on fuel:-) seems to me
you'd be glad to spend the money in the "off" season just because you'd
be so used to it.

Gee; I do hope you see the humour in this, I certainly have.

K



"K. Smith" wrote in message
...

mijoy wrote:

I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000


engine?

Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year


on

my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is


the

very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean


going

lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




300 hrs a year?? in Phil? area that's over 10 hrs per week in the
season being generous & 2 X 100 Hp is what?? minimum 20 kt cruise??

Unless you're a commercial user how do you manage to rack that many
hours up???

Anyway just asking.

K





mijoy August 4th 04 02:38 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
I got pictures :-)
I got the humor, it was pretty funny. If you need more proof I can take a
picture of my hour meter :-(

"K. Smith" wrote in message
...
mijoy wrote:
Not sure what you are asking but the way I look at 300 hours is 30 days
worth of 10 hour days.


OK so subtlety is missed around here all too often, I now find it best
to just say outright; you're full of it. Granted you're not as stupid as
Harry but hey you can probably breath unassisted:-)

Not really all that much.


Yes it "really" is up where you are!!! As I said; save you're a
commercial user, 30 X 10 hr days of pleasure use in a short season; come
on just put your hands up & we'll forget this little story:-) Like
Harry the liar & many other lame BS'ers you well overshot the made up
claim:-)

I begin boating in mid-April and end in November.
Some days giant tuna fishing can be 16-20 hours on the water with most

of it
being with the engine running.


"Giant" tuna fishing "Giant"???? yes of course:-) & gee 6 "full" months
at that latitude?? You are one tough BS'er you certainly are. The only
thing getting "giant" about this story is your nose:-)

Adds up quickly. Too quickly.


What adds up is you should stop digging now before you actually pop
out down he-) (you're allowed to check my headers as I am yours:-)),
honestly sometimes I get concerned that others even take this BS
seriously, as for you?? I'm not concerned at all you'll be just fine &
keep selling!! selling!! selling!! something to anyone you can somewhere.

Don't be too concerned about the few hundred dollars your "story"
complains about for maintenance, damn 100HP X 2 at cruise are burning
14-15 US gals/hr @ say $2/gal?? or say those 10 hr days???:-) According
to your own claim you're spending $300 a day on fuel:-) seems to me
you'd be glad to spend the money in the "off" season just because you'd
be so used to it.

Gee; I do hope you see the humour in this, I certainly have.

K



"K. Smith" wrote in message
...

mijoy wrote:

I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000


engine?

Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a

year

on

my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is


the

very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean


going

lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




300 hrs a year?? in Phil? area that's over 10 hrs per week in the
season being generous & 2 X 100 Hp is what?? minimum 20 kt cruise??

Unless you're a commercial user how do you manage to rack that many
hours up???

Anyway just asking.

K







mijoy August 4th 04 02:38 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
I'm not in Phil? I'm on Cape Cod

"K. Smith" wrote in message
...
mijoy wrote:
I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000

engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year

on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is

the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean

going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




300 hrs a year?? in Phil? area that's over 10 hrs per week in the
season being generous & 2 X 100 Hp is what?? minimum 20 kt cruise??

Unless you're a commercial user how do you manage to rack that many
hours up???

Anyway just asking.

K




K. Smith August 4th 04 11:34 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
mijoy wrote:
I'm not in Phil? I'm on Cape Cod


Lucky bugger!!!:-) you have few other worries in life, 1000hrs is in
the premises OK. Enjoy life or I suppose I should say continue to enjoy
life. :-)

K


"K. Smith" wrote in message
...

mijoy wrote:

I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000


engine?

Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year


on

my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is


the

very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean


going

lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




300 hrs a year?? in Phil? area that's over 10 hrs per week in the
season being generous & 2 X 100 Hp is what?? minimum 20 kt cruise??

Unless you're a commercial user how do you manage to rack that many
hours up???

Anyway just asking.

K





K. Smith August 4th 04 11:35 AM

poll: life expectancy of mid-range 4-strokes
 
mijoy wrote:
I got pictures :-)
I got the humor, it was pretty funny. If you need more proof I can take a
picture of my hour meter :-(


Not needed:-) However on the subject; the usual guesstimate used with
car engines is that about 50,000 miles is equiv to 1000 hrs, & sadly I
think most here will agree with you that given their pricing OBs & most
other recreation boating stuff is not good value. I'm sure yours have
some life left yet, given some repair costs.

I suppose you can get some comfort knowing the 4 strokes are currently
about as good as it gets in OB reliability.

Thanks for the exchange good fun:-)

K



"K. Smith" wrote in message
...

mijoy wrote:

Not sure what you are asking but the way I look at 300 hours is 30 days
worth of 10 hour days.


OK so subtlety is missed around here all too often, I now find it best
to just say outright; you're full of it. Granted you're not as stupid as
Harry but hey you can probably breath unassisted:-)


Not really all that much.


Yes it "really" is up where you are!!! As I said; save you're a
commercial user, 30 X 10 hr days of pleasure use in a short season; come
on just put your hands up & we'll forget this little story:-) Like
Harry the liar & many other lame BS'ers you well overshot the made up
claim:-)

I begin boating in mid-April and end in November.

Some days giant tuna fishing can be 16-20 hours on the water with most


of it

being with the engine running.


"Giant" tuna fishing "Giant"???? yes of course:-) & gee 6 "full" months
at that latitude?? You are one tough BS'er you certainly are. The only
thing getting "giant" about this story is your nose:-)

Adds up quickly. Too quickly.


What adds up is you should stop digging now before you actually pop
out down he-) (you're allowed to check my headers as I am yours:-)),
honestly sometimes I get concerned that others even take this BS
seriously, as for you?? I'm not concerned at all you'll be just fine &
keep selling!! selling!! selling!! something to anyone you can somewhere.

Don't be too concerned about the few hundred dollars your "story"
complains about for maintenance, damn 100HP X 2 at cruise are burning
14-15 US gals/hr @ say $2/gal?? or say those 10 hr days???:-) According
to your own claim you're spending $300 a day on fuel:-) seems to me
you'd be glad to spend the money in the "off" season just because you'd
be so used to it.

Gee; I do hope you see the humour in this, I certainly have.

K



"K. Smith" wrote in message
...


mijoy wrote:


I vented about my 100hp Yamaha oputboard with 900 hours on them, both,
requiring major engine repairs in another thread.
I got a very humorous reply about how I "must have bought a lemon".
BWAHAHAHAHA.

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000

engine?


Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a


year

on


my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is

the


very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean

going


lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(




300 hrs a year?? in Phil? area that's over 10 hrs per week in the
season being generous & 2 X 100 Hp is what?? minimum 20 kt cruise??

Unless you're a commercial user how do you manage to rack that many
hours up???

Anyway just asking.

K






August 15th 04 05:53 PM


I'm in charge of maintence for about 6 Honda 130 four strokes. We have
2 harbor security boats with twin 130's (2000/2001 models). Both boats
have over 2700 hrs on each engine. We never flush them, except when we
pull them out of the water for their 100 hour maintence (change
oil/filter and lower unit oil). All my Honda engines have been trouble
free. They get run wide open for the most part and except for replacing
lower units when the navy tries to 4 wheel them, I'm impressed. BTW a
lower unit complete is 1500 bucks from Honda. Granted its a GSA price,
but it's cheaper to replace than repair. They dont have the power of say
a 135 opti max, and I under stand the new Honda 150 has a bunch more
power. Basically these engines are left down in the water (salt) and the
corrision factor is nill. Again for as much abuse as they take, im
impressed, and this comes from a Merc man. Mabey the secerte is the 100
hr oil changes..............

Bill D
Pensacola

In article ,

Got me thinking though, is 900 hours a lot of hours for a $8000-9000 engine?
Maybe my expectations are too high. But darn, if I put 300 hours a year on
my boat, should I only expect the engines to last about 3 years? Is the
very funny gentleman who replied correct? Should I cash in my ocean going
lifestyle for a set of golf clubs?? :-(






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