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Barnronhart July 31st 04 12:32 PM

Bush and Boating
 
I have had two boats. The first one I bought when "Old Bush" was in office, and
the second one when "Young Bush" was in office. I think I'll keep voting for
Bush!

jps July 31st 04 04:34 PM

Bush and Boating
 
In article ,
says...
I have had two boats. The first one I bought when "Old Bush" was in office, and
the second one when "Young Bush" was in office. I think I'll keep voting for
Bush!


Unfortunately, people are having to give up their boats under Bush
because their wages aren't what they used to be.

jps

NOYB July 31st 04 07:19 PM

Bush and Boating
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I have had two boats. The first one I bought when "Old Bush" was in

office, and
the second one when "Young Bush" was in office. I think I'll keep voting

for
Bush!


Unfortunately, people are having to give up their boats under Bush
because their wages aren't what they used to be.



I've purchased 3 boats since Bush has been President...all of 'em used. The
first one was because the original owner was moving up into a 30' Sea Ray.
The second one was because the marina where it was stored is being knocked
down to build a high rise condo. The third one was because the 84 year old
man who owned it died. None were for sale because the owner "had to give up
their boat because of lower wages".




Harry Krause July 31st 04 07:31 PM

Bush and Boating
 
NOYB wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I have had two boats. The first one I bought when "Old Bush" was in

office, and
the second one when "Young Bush" was in office. I think I'll keep voting

for
Bush!


Unfortunately, people are having to give up their boats under Bush
because their wages aren't what they used to be.



I've purchased 3 boats since Bush has been President...all of 'em used. The
first one was because the original owner was moving up into a 30' Sea Ray.
The second one was because the marina where it was stored is being knocked
down to build a high rise condo. The third one was because the 84 year old
man who owned it died. None were for sale because the owner "had to give up
their boat because of lower wages".




So...are you trying to extrapolate "reality" of your your statistical
base of yourself?

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

jim-- July 31st 04 07:58 PM

Bush and Boating
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I have had two boats. The first one I bought when "Old Bush" was in

office, and
the second one when "Young Bush" was in office. I think I'll keep

voting
for
Bush!

Unfortunately, people are having to give up their boats under Bush
because their wages aren't what they used to be.



I've purchased 3 boats since Bush has been President...all of 'em used.

The
first one was because the original owner was moving up into a 30' Sea

Ray.
The second one was because the marina where it was stored is being

knocked
down to build a high rise condo. The third one was because the 84 year

old
man who owned it died. None were for sale because the owner "had to

give up
their boat because of lower wages".




So...are you trying to extrapolate "reality" of your your statistical
base of yourself?



No more so than jps stating "Unfortunately, people are having to give up
their boats under Bush because their wages aren't what they used to be"
without offering any facts about boat ownership declining under Bush.

I would rather trust real life stories than unsubstantiated opinions.

Try to be balanced rather than purely partisan Krause. Is that at all
possible?



NOYB July 31st 04 08:11 PM

Bush and Boating
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I have had two boats. The first one I bought when "Old Bush" was in

office, and
the second one when "Young Bush" was in office. I think I'll keep

voting
for
Bush!

Unfortunately, people are having to give up their boats under Bush
because their wages aren't what they used to be.



I've purchased 3 boats since Bush has been President...all of 'em used.

The
first one was because the original owner was moving up into a 30' Sea

Ray.
The second one was because the marina where it was stored is being

knocked
down to build a high rise condo. The third one was because the 84 year

old
man who owned it died. None were for sale because the owner "had to

give up
their boat because of lower wages".




So...are you trying to extrapolate "reality" of your your statistical
base of yourself?


I used anecdotal evidence to counter jps's claim that people have had to
give up their boats because of lower wages. Perhaps you or jps can give me
anecdotal evidence that *supports* his claim? Until then, my unscientific
claim trumps his unscientific claim.



Harry Krause July 31st 04 11:27 PM

Bush and Boating
 
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I have had two boats. The first one I bought when "Old Bush" was in
office, and
the second one when "Young Bush" was in office. I think I'll keep

voting
for
Bush!

Unfortunately, people are having to give up their boats under Bush
because their wages aren't what they used to be.


I've purchased 3 boats since Bush has been President...all of 'em used.

The
first one was because the original owner was moving up into a 30' Sea

Ray.
The second one was because the marina where it was stored is being

knocked
down to build a high rise condo. The third one was because the 84 year

old
man who owned it died. None were for sale because the owner "had to

give up
their boat because of lower wages".




So...are you trying to extrapolate "reality" of your your statistical
base of yourself?


I used anecdotal evidence to counter jps's claim that people have had to
give up their boats because of lower wages. Perhaps you or jps can give me
anecdotal evidence that *supports* his claim? Until then, my unscientific
claim trumps his unscientific claim.


No, ot doesn't. It's just an anecdote.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

jps August 2nd 04 04:00 AM

Bush and Boating
 
In article , says...

So...are you trying to extrapolate "reality" of your your statistical
base of yourself?



No more so than jps stating "Unfortunately, people are having to give up
their boats under Bush because their wages aren't what they used to be"
without offering any facts about boat ownership declining under Bush.

I would rather trust real life stories than unsubstantiated opinions.


Here Dennis. See if this reaches your cranium...

Americans' incomes fell for two years

Report: IRS data shows first-ever consecutive-year drop; loss of jobs
blamed.
July 29, 2004: 12:59 PM EDT


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Americans' overall income shrank for two
consecutive years after stocks plunged in 2000, the first time that has
effectively happened since the current tax system was put in place
during World War II, according to a published report Thursday.

The New York Times, reporting data from the Internal Revenue Service,
said gross income reported to the agency fell 5.1 percent to $6.0
trillion in 2002, the most recent year for which data is available, down
from $6.35 trillion in 2000. Because of population growth, average
income fell even more, by 5.7 percent, and adjusted for inflation the
decline was 9.2 percent.



jps August 2nd 04 04:03 AM

Bush and Boating
 
In article , says...

I used anecdotal evidence to counter jps's claim that people have had to
give up their boats because of lower wages. Perhaps you or jps can give me
anecdotal evidence that *supports* his claim? Until then, my unscientific
claim trumps his unscientific claim.


Think this promotes boat ownership?

Americans' incomes fell for two years

Report: IRS data shows first-ever consecutive-year drop; loss of jobs
blamed.
July 29, 2004: 12:59 PM EDT

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Americans' overall income shrank for two
consecutive years after stocks plunged in 2000, the first time that has
effectively happened since the current tax system was put in place
during World War II, according to a published report Thursday.

The New York Times, reporting data from the Internal Revenue Service,
said gross income reported to the agency fell 5.1 percent to $6.0
trillion in 2002, the most recent year for which data is available, down
from $6.35 trillion in 2000. Because of population growth, average
income fell even more, by 5.7 percent, and adjusted for inflation the
decline was 9.2 percent.



NOYB August 2nd 04 08:22 PM

Bush and Boating
 

"jps" wrote in message
...

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Americans' overall income shrank for two
consecutive years after stocks plunged in 2000...


Yes, we already knew that. The stock market plunge in the final year of
Clinton's second term hurt Americans' income for the next two years. Now,
where in your article does it say that people had to sell their boats?




jps August 3rd 04 07:34 AM

Bush and Boating
 
In article et,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Americans' overall income shrank for two
consecutive years after stocks plunged in 2000...


Yes, we already knew that. The stock market plunge in the final year of
Clinton's second term hurt Americans' income for the next two years. Now,
where in your article does it say that people had to sell their boats?


Boat usage is down significantly here in the NW and prices are soft.

Where did you complete your econ studies, in dental school?

jps

Calif Bill August 6th 04 07:20 AM

Bush and Boating
 
And you live in an area that was way overpaid with the .com debacle. Lots
of millionaires on paper, but when the market realized that a website did
not merit a billion dollar capitalization, there money was gone. And they
probably bought on the come. Most the country, did not have a huge
fluctuation of income.
Bill
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

So...are you trying to extrapolate "reality" of your your statistical
base of yourself?



No more so than jps stating "Unfortunately, people are having to give

up
their boats under Bush because their wages aren't what they used to be"
without offering any facts about boat ownership declining under Bush.

I would rather trust real life stories than unsubstantiated opinions.


Here Dennis. See if this reaches your cranium...

Americans' incomes fell for two years

Report: IRS data shows first-ever consecutive-year drop; loss of jobs
blamed.
July 29, 2004: 12:59 PM EDT


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Americans' overall income shrank for two
consecutive years after stocks plunged in 2000, the first time that has
effectively happened since the current tax system was put in place
during World War II, according to a published report Thursday.

The New York Times, reporting data from the Internal Revenue Service,
said gross income reported to the agency fell 5.1 percent to $6.0
trillion in 2002, the most recent year for which data is available, down
from $6.35 trillion in 2000. Because of population growth, average
income fell even more, by 5.7 percent, and adjusted for inflation the
decline was 9.2 percent.





jps August 6th 04 08:12 AM

Bush and Boating
 
In article . net,
says...
And you live in an area that was way overpaid with the .com debacle. Lots
of millionaires on paper, but when the market realized that a website did
not merit a billion dollar capitalization, there money was gone. And they
probably bought on the come. Most the country, did not have a huge
fluctuation of income.
Bill



Not an unreasonable observation. We are also have the highest per
capita ownership of boats in the US, if I remember properly.

I sold some of that inflated stock to purchase the boat outright.
Thought I was being stupid. Turned out to be an accidently brilliant
move looking back. Spring 2000.

I didn't enjoy paying the giant cap gains tax bill the following year,
but I swallowed hard and wrote the check.

jps

basskisser August 6th 04 12:15 PM

Bush and Boating
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message link.net...
And you live in an area that was way overpaid with the .com debacle. Lots
of millionaires on paper, but when the market realized that a website did
not merit a billion dollar capitalization, there money was gone. And they
probably bought on the come. Most the country, did not have a huge
fluctuation of income.
Bill


You should go back to the Views of Kerry post, and tell the guy who
lives close to ANWR what a non-pristine place it is!!!!!!

Calif Bill August 6th 04 05:57 PM

Bush and Boating
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

link.net...
And you live in an area that was way overpaid with the .com debacle.

Lots
of millionaires on paper, but when the market realized that a website

did
not merit a billion dollar capitalization, there money was gone. And

they
probably bought on the come. Most the country, did not have a huge
fluctuation of income.
Bill


You should go back to the Views of Kerry post, and tell the guy who
lives close to ANWR what a non-pristine place it is!!!!!!


Not only are you stupid, you can not follow a thread.




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