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Wally is one of the
dumbest clucks who posts here. Quack, Quack Wrong bird, Wally. :-) |
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In article , gould0738
@aol.com says... Wally is one of the dumbest clucks who posts here. Quack, Quack Wrong bird, Wally. :-) ZIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGG!!!! |
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Dave,
I take exception to your term of "liberal", I may be more liberal than yourself, but no where near where Harry is at. Perhaps you should use the term "Extreme" as a definer, just so you don't paint such a wide swatch. I guess this is a problem with labels, we wear so many different ones on different issues. I rather doubt that when we vote for someone, we vote for a person that believes just like we do.All of life is a compromise. Paul "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... deleted Like a typical liberal, you once again pick and chose what you read, spin it in a way as to reveal it in the most unfavorable light, and then repost it as if it were the truth. I NEVER said that psychaitry was *never* necessary, only that there are a great many people who are "addicted" to therapy today, because they've never learned how to deal with problems. Go ahead, deny that this happens. I'm not "forcing" my daughter to act in an "acceptable way". I'm just guiding her down a proper path, and not giving her the chance to adopt bad habits. Dave Wally probably thinks karma is the candy coating sometimes applied to apples on a stick. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Iggy,
Your sister did the right thing. If they weren't interested in having the second carriage returned than she did her part. What I don't understand is your statement that they were running a scam. Why the hostility towards them? Paul "Ignoramus14460" wrote in message ... Oftentimes, just calling them and asking to pay them would actually get you nowhere. I once bought a gift for my sister which was a baby carriage. Instead of one, she received two. So, being a good girl, she calle them and advised them of that. Their reaction was kinda cold and not very interested. She decided to screw them and not pursue this matter. So she received two carriages instead of one. Naturally she gave the second one to me. Was it unethical that she did not talk to a supervisor or something? My answer is: **** them. They were running a scam to cheat investors and so taking a puny baby carriage ($225) was not a big deal. i |
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WaIIy wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:19:00 GMT, bb wrote: On 17 Nov 2003 19:11:38 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: Wally is one of the dumbest clucks who posts here. Quack, Quack Wrong bird, Wally. :-) At least he's consistant. Consistantly wrong, but consistant. bb I guess it went over your heads. Nothing you post here, Wally, would go over the head of a two-day-old slug. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Paul Schilter wrote:
Dave, I take exception to your term of "liberal", I may be more liberal than yourself, but no where near where Harry is at. Perhaps you should use the term "Extreme" as a definer, just so you don't paint such a wide swatch. I guess this is a problem with labels, we wear so many different ones on different issues. I rather doubt that when we vote for someone, we vote for a person that believes just like we do.All of life is a compromise. Point taken. And you are correct. Harry displays a form of liberalism that is equivilent in position to Jerry Falwell on the opposite side. Dave |
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Oh my God. You don't refer to yourself as a Chrisitian do you? Jesus was a socialist. No he wasn't, he was a compassionate Conservative. |
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Dave Hall wrote:
Paul Schilter wrote: Dave, I take exception to your term of "liberal", I may be more liberal than yourself, but no where near where Harry is at. Perhaps you should use the term "Extreme" as a definer, just so you don't paint such a wide swatch. I guess this is a problem with labels, we wear so many different ones on different issues. I rather doubt that when we vote for someone, we vote for a person that believes just like we do.All of life is a compromise. Point taken. And you are correct. Harry displays a form of liberalism that is equivilent in position to Jerry Falwell on the opposite side. Dave You know, Dave, you are such an intellectual numnutz, you're pathetic. On a legitimate scale of liberal to conservative, with moderate as the center, I'd fall a few hairs left of moderate. What views do you think I hold that would put me "opposite" the Rev. Mr. Falwell on the political scale? That I'm pro-choice? I'd say about half of Americans are pro-choice. That I think George W. Bush is not worthy of being POTUS? More voters thought that way than thought he was suitable. That I think Bush's Iraq policies are so much crap? That's the position held by at least half of America. That I'm in favor of many government programs that aid the needy? Well, so are most Americans. That I think our system of providing decent medical care to every American sucks big time? Well, so do most Americans. That I think that the UN, despite its faults, is the best bet for doing what it does, despite the efforts of the right to demonize it? So do most Americans. That I think people like you, who hold far-right extremist views, represent a real danger to our democracy? Well, so do most Americans who think about such issues. You're the extremist, Dave. I'm pretty much a centrist. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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jps wrote:
In article , says... Oh my God. You don't refer to yourself as a Chrisitian do you? Jesus was a socialist. No he wasn't, he was a compassionate Conservative. Bwaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa!!! He would laugh at the irony of "conservative christians" assuming his mantle, or be incredibly saddened. Doubtful He was a socialist. He wanted to spread the wealth. Through the kindness of charity, not the iron fist of government. Compassionate conservatives want to horde the wealth. Not "horde" just "keep". We believe that we have the right to decide who is needy and who deserves our kindness. It's counterproductive to prop up people who have no incentive to better themselves. People who run into a temporary setback are a whole different story. They're anything but Christian. And you're suddenly an expert on religion? His agenda is served far more effectively by the left. He was an "all ships" sort of guy. The left wants to use the government to strong arm their agenda onto everybody, whether they like it or not. Charity and faith are not about mandates, but about choice. The devil, however, is a much better fit for compassionate conservatives, for, as you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And we all know that those on the left feel that they're doing the "right" thing, and that conservatives are just blind to those "good intentions". You can look at it either way. Dave |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote: Paul Schilter wrote: Dave, I take exception to your term of "liberal", I may be more liberal than yourself, but no where near where Harry is at. Perhaps you should use the term "Extreme" as a definer, just so you don't paint such a wide swatch. I guess this is a problem with labels, we wear so many different ones on different issues. I rather doubt that when we vote for someone, we vote for a person that believes just like we do.All of life is a compromise. Point taken. And you are correct. Harry displays a form of liberalism that is equivilent in position to Jerry Falwell on the opposite side. Dave You know, Dave, you are such an intellectual numnutz, you're pathetic. On a legitimate scale of liberal to conservative, with moderate as the center, I'd fall a few hairs left of moderate. What views do you think I hold that would put me "opposite" the Rev. Mr. Falwell on the political scale? That I'm pro-choice? I'd say about half of Americans are pro-choice. That I think George W. Bush is not worthy of being POTUS? More voters thought that way than thought he was suitable. That I think Bush's Iraq policies are so much crap? That's the position held by at least half of America. That I'm in favor of many government programs that aid the needy? Well, so are most Americans. That I think our system of providing decent medical care to every American sucks big time? Well, so do most Americans. That I think that the UN, despite its faults, is the best bet for doing what it does, despite the efforts of the right to demonize it? So do most Americans. That I think people like you, who hold far-right extremist views, represent a real danger to our democracy? Well, so do most Americans who think about such issues. None of your claims are substantiated with anything any more credible than your own opinion, so that makes them skeptical at best. Dave |
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In article , paulschilter@comcast
says... jps, Well at least we can agree that Jesus was a Carpenter. So to the question a lot of tree huggers have been asking; What would Jesus drive? I answer: A Pickup Truck. Hopefully an F-150 at least. I just don't see Him driving an Eco box. Paul I say he drives a late sixties C 10 3/4 ton with three on the column and a 327. No four wheelin' for Jesus. He's a carpenter remember. The box'd have dump bed on it for easy unloading of demo stuff from remodels and it'd be in need of paint. jps |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: Paul Schilter wrote: Dave, I take exception to your term of "liberal", I may be more liberal than yourself, but no where near where Harry is at. Perhaps you should use the term "Extreme" as a definer, just so you don't paint such a wide swatch. I guess this is a problem with labels, we wear so many different ones on different issues. I rather doubt that when we vote for someone, we vote for a person that believes just like we do.All of life is a compromise. Point taken. And you are correct. Harry displays a form of liberalism that is equivilent in position to Jerry Falwell on the opposite side. Dave You know, Dave, you are such an intellectual numnutz, you're pathetic. On a legitimate scale of liberal to conservative, with moderate as the center, I'd fall a few hairs left of moderate. What views do you think I hold that would put me "opposite" the Rev. Mr. Falwell on the political scale? That I'm pro-choice? I'd say about half of Americans are pro-choice. That I think George W. Bush is not worthy of being POTUS? More voters thought that way than thought he was suitable. That I think Bush's Iraq policies are so much crap? That's the position held by at least half of America. That I'm in favor of many government programs that aid the needy? Well, so are most Americans. That I think our system of providing decent medical care to every American sucks big time? Well, so do most Americans. That I think that the UN, despite its faults, is the best bet for doing what it does, despite the efforts of the right to demonize it? So do most Americans. That I think people like you, who hold far-right extremist views, represent a real danger to our democracy? Well, so do most Americans who think about such issues. None of your claims are substantiated with anything any more credible than your own opinion, so that makes them skeptical at best. Dave Uh, Dave...what I posted here are not claims. if you check the results of legitimate opinion surveys going back quite a few years, you'll see that about everything I have posited here in terms of what I believe and support is quite moderate and mainstream. Which views have I posted immediately above that wouldn't be supported by about 50% of Americans? Almost all of them. I could post some stats of my own, but you'd just dismiss them as more "right wing crap". My views are moderate and mainstream, Dave. You are the one way out there on the edge of wetness, sitting on the right-wing extremist bench with ol' Karl Derringer. Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. You're a right-wing control freak, Dave Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as those choices are not morally wrong. I'm for school choice, the right to carry arms, the right to pick your retirement plan, the right to pick your health insurance, the right to keep the money you earn, the right to ride jet ski's in front of your home. Things you have opposed at some point in the past. So who's really the control freak here? with an overlay of rigid personality. Your posts here over the years prove it. You mistaken a rigid personality with adherence to principles. The priciples of logic are unwavering, and dedication to those principles is as well. I'm certainly to the left of you...quite far to the left, actually, but that just places me slightly left of center. Where the center falls, depends on your perspective. Dave |
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I say he drives a late sixties C 10 3/4 ton with three on the column and
a 327. No four wheelin' for Jesus. He's a carpenter remember. The box'd have dump bed on it for easy unloading of demo stuff from remodels and it'd be in need of paint. jps He'd never have to stop for gas. If a guy can turn water into wine, gasoline can't be that much tougher. :-) |
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jps wrote:
In article , says... Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. Based on the opinions expressed in this group and how they fell on that grid, your real score is likely to the right of Bush. You are anything but a centrist Dave. Nonetheless, I am much closer to the center than Bush. The results don't lie. Dave |
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Dave Hall wrote:
jps wrote: In article , says... Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. Based on the opinions expressed in this group and how they fell on that grid, your real score is likely to the right of Bush. You are anything but a centrist Dave. Nonetheless, I am much closer to the center than Bush. The results don't lie. Dave You believe in an on-line survey that tells you where you stand politically? How about the tooth fairy, Dave? Do you believe in him, too. Ker-ripes, you are a simpie. | -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Dave Hall wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: Paul Schilter wrote: Dave, I take exception to your term of "liberal", I may be more liberal than yourself, but no where near where Harry is at. Perhaps you should use the term "Extreme" as a definer, just so you don't paint such a wide swatch. I guess this is a problem with labels, we wear so many different ones on different issues. I rather doubt that when we vote for someone, we vote for a person that believes just like we do.All of life is a compromise. Point taken. And you are correct. Harry displays a form of liberalism that is equivilent in position to Jerry Falwell on the opposite side. Dave You know, Dave, you are such an intellectual numnutz, you're pathetic. On a legitimate scale of liberal to conservative, with moderate as the center, I'd fall a few hairs left of moderate. What views do you think I hold that would put me "opposite" the Rev. Mr. Falwell on the political scale? That I'm pro-choice? I'd say about half of Americans are pro-choice. That I think George W. Bush is not worthy of being POTUS? More voters thought that way than thought he was suitable. That I think Bush's Iraq policies are so much crap? That's the position held by at least half of America. That I'm in favor of many government programs that aid the needy? Well, so are most Americans. That I think our system of providing decent medical care to every American sucks big time? Well, so do most Americans. That I think that the UN, despite its faults, is the best bet for doing what it does, despite the efforts of the right to demonize it? So do most Americans. That I think people like you, who hold far-right extremist views, represent a real danger to our democracy? Well, so do most Americans who think about such issues. None of your claims are substantiated with anything any more credible than your own opinion, so that makes them skeptical at best. Dave Uh, Dave...what I posted here are not claims. if you check the results of legitimate opinion surveys going back quite a few years, you'll see that about everything I have posited here in terms of what I believe and support is quite moderate and mainstream. Which views have I posted immediately above that wouldn't be supported by about 50% of Americans? Almost all of them. I could post some stats of my own, but you'd just dismiss them as more "right wing crap". My views are moderate and mainstream, Dave. You are the one way out there on the edge of wetness, sitting on the right-wing extremist bench with ol' Karl Derringer. Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. You're a right-wing control freak, Dave Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as those choices are not morally wrong. But you want to control determining what is morally right or morally wrong. with an overlay of rigid personality. Your posts here over the years prove it. You mistaken a rigid personality with adherence to principles. Nope. You've got a rigid personality. The priciples of logic are unwavering, and dedication to those principles is as well. I think your principles went over a precipice long ago. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote: jps wrote: In article , says... Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. Based on the opinions expressed in this group and how they fell on that grid, your real score is likely to the right of Bush. You are anything but a centrist Dave. Nonetheless, I am much closer to the center than Bush. The results don't lie. Dave You believe in an on-line survey that tells you where you stand politically? Not any more than the rest of the people here who took it. I actually objected to the wording used in some of the questions, as it implied a certain bias by phrasing them in a leading way. But taking it all into consideration, I was no further to the right, than what would be considered "Normal" for someone with conservative values. I am hardly the right wing fundamentalist that you attempt to demonize me as. How about the tooth fairy, Dave? Do you believe in him, too. Actually, it's a her, and she's a really good friend....... Dave |
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Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. You're a right-wing control freak, Dave Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as those choices are not morally wrong. But you want to control determining what is morally right or morally wrong. I don't want to control anything. What is morally right or wrong *should* be fairly obvious to anyone with a conscience. It should also be a standard, not something subject to change with the politcal wind. If murder was immoral yesterday, and it is also today, then there is no reason to think that it should not be tomorrow as well. with an overlay of rigid personality. Your posts here over the years prove it. You mistaken a rigid personality with adherence to principles. Nope. You've got a rigid personality. And you have cranial-rectal dysfunction. The priciples of logic are unwavering, and dedication to those principles is as well. I think your principles went over a precipice long ago. What you *think*, is irrelevant as usual. Dave |
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jps,
I don't know, some of them job sites are muddy, 4X4 is a pretty popular option these days. :-) Paul "jps" wrote in message ... In article , paulschilter@comcast says... jps, Well at least we can agree that Jesus was a Carpenter. So to the question a lot of tree huggers have been asking; What would Jesus drive? I answer: A Pickup Truck. Hopefully an F-150 at least. I just don't see Him driving an Eco box. Paul I say he drives a late sixties C 10 3/4 ton with three on the column and a 327. No four wheelin' for Jesus. He's a carpenter remember. The box'd have dump bed on it for easy unloading of demo stuff from remodels and it'd be in need of paint. jps |
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Dave Hall wrote:
Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. You're a right-wing control freak, Dave Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as those choices are not morally wrong. But you want to control determining what is morally right or morally wrong. I don't want to control anything. What is morally right or wrong *should* be fairly obvious to anyone with a conscience. It's morally wrong to allow children to be hungry, cold and in need of good medical care. Do you agree? -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote: Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. You're a right-wing control freak, Dave Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as those choices are not morally wrong. But you want to control determining what is morally right or morally wrong. I don't want to control anything. What is morally right or wrong *should* be fairly obvious to anyone with a conscience. It's morally wrong to allow children to be hungry, cold and in need of good medical care. Do you agree? I do. I also agree that it's morally wrong, and highly irresponsible to bring children into a world where they will be hungry, cold and in need of medical care. Dave |
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Dave Hall wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. You're a right-wing control freak, Dave Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as those choices are not morally wrong. But you want to control determining what is morally right or morally wrong. I don't want to control anything. What is morally right or wrong *should* be fairly obvious to anyone with a conscience. It's morally wrong to allow children to be hungry, cold and in need of good medical care. Do you agree? I do. I also agree that it's morally wrong, and highly irresponsible to bring children into a world where they will be hungry, cold and in need of medical care. Dave But once those children are here...they must be supported properly, either by their parents or society. After all, they didn't ask to be born. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. You're a right-wing control freak, Dave Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as those choices are not morally wrong. But you want to control determining what is morally right or morally wrong. I don't want to control anything. What is morally right or wrong *should* be fairly obvious to anyone with a conscience. It's morally wrong to allow children to be hungry, cold and in need of good medical care. Do you agree? I do. I also agree that it's morally wrong, and highly irresponsible to bring children into a world where they will be hungry, cold and in need of medical care. Dave But once those children are here...they must be supported properly, either by their parents or society. After all, they didn't ask to be born. Right, they didn't. But all too often children are born to people who do not have the necessary skills (or even desire) to be parents (ties right in to the teacher's thread), whether emotionally, psychologically, or financially. But rather than just giving those families money, I'd adopt a more pro-active approach that focuses on the kids, and how to put them in a more productive environment. Society, unfortunately, tends to favor the notion that kids are better off with their own family, even if they might be crack addicts..... Dave |
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