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WalterScottGray November 14th 03 03:10 AM

The New Navy = $$$
 
The question is: How much will it all cost?


http://www.usni.org/Proceedings/Arti...ROnatter11.htm

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Louis V. Spielman November 14th 03 06:57 PM

The New Navy = $$$
 

"WalterScottGray" wrote in message
news:XUWOAMBH37938.925625@anonymous...
The question is: How much will it all cost?


There is no greater waste of money than a SECOND RATE NAVY. Spend the two
dollars(adjusted for inflation).



Steven James Forsberg November 14th 03 08:23 PM

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In sci.military.naval Louis V. Spielman wrote:

: "WalterScottGray" wrote in message
: news:XUWOAMBH37938.925625@anonymous...
: The question is: How much will it all cost?

: There is no greater waste of money than a SECOND RATE NAVY. Spend the two
: dollars(adjusted for inflation).

I keep telling our Brit friends that -- and every other navy in
the world. But for some reason, they don't listen...

regards,
-----------------------------------------------




Andrew Toppan November 15th 03 12:50 AM

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On 14 Nov 2003 04:10:27 +0100, er
(WalterScottGray) wrote:

The question is: How much will it all cost?


Do you have a point?

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ZZBunker November 15th 03 08:28 AM

The New Navy = $$$
 
"Louis V. Spielman" wrote in message . com...
"WalterScottGray" wrote in message
news:XUWOAMBH37938.925625@anonymous...
The question is: How much will it all cost?


There is no greater waste of money than a SECOND RATE NAVY. Spend the two
dollars(adjusted for inflation).


A second Air Force is a much greater waste of money
that a second rate Navy. Seeing that it costs
6 billion dollars to build a carrier, and one exploding
million dollar bomb on a 50 million dollar jet
to sink one.

Alistair Gunn November 15th 03 12:21 PM

The New Navy = $$$
 
In sci.military.naval Louis V. Spielman twisted the electrons to say:
There is no greater waste of money than a SECOND RATE NAVY.


Depends upon how you're getting to "second rate" - do you mean overall or
merely in comparison to the perceived threat level? After all, I think
it's fair to say that if you mean overall then the USN is "first rate"
and no-one else manages better than "second rate"[1].

Eg: I reckon it's pretty impossible to imagine the armed forces of the
UK successfully repelling a full-blown assault by the US (well, without
saying to the president "we have Trident, which cities won't the US
miss?" grins), however I also think it's unlikely that the US will be
attempting to invade the UK in the near future!

[1] And quite a lot don't even manage that!
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These opinions might not even be mine ...
Let alone connected with my employer ...

Paul Schilter November 15th 03 01:46 PM

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ZZ,
How many of our carriers have been sunk? They go out with an escort
that's hard to get by.Plus that carrier can carry that plane to within
striking range.
But I do agree with you that our Air Force should be first rate, but a first
rate Navy is no less important
Paul

"ZZBunker" wrote in message
om...
"Louis V. Spielman" wrote in message

. com...
"WalterScottGray" wrote in

message
news:XUWOAMBH37938.925625@anonymous...
The question is: How much will it all cost?


There is no greater waste of money than a SECOND RATE NAVY. Spend the

two
dollars(adjusted for inflation).


A second Air Force is a much greater waste of money
that a second rate Navy. Seeing that it costs
6 billion dollars to build a carrier, and one exploding
million dollar bomb on a 50 million dollar jet
to sink one.




[email protected] November 15th 03 05:36 PM

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On 14-Nov-2003, "Louis V. Spielman" wrote:

"WalterScottGray" wrote in message
news:XUWOAMBH37938.925625@anonymous...
The question is: How much will it all cos


no idea

ZZBunker November 16th 03 03:51 AM

The New Navy = $$$
 
Alistair Gunn wrote in message ...
In sci.military.naval Louis V. Spielman twisted the electrons to say:
There is no greater waste of money than a SECOND RATE NAVY.


Depends upon how you're getting to "second rate" - do you mean overall or
merely in comparison to the perceived threat level? After all, I think
it's fair to say that if you mean overall then the USN is "first rate"
and no-one else manages better than "second rate"[1].

Eg: I reckon it's pretty impossible to imagine the armed forces of the
UK successfully repelling a full-blown assault by the US (well, without
saying to the president "we have Trident, which cities won't the US
miss?" grins), however I also think it's unlikely that the US will be
attempting to invade the UK in the near future!


Since it's impossible to imagine the UK repelling the
Washington Redskins Football team, whether or not they
can repel the US military is somewhat beside the point.

ZZBunker November 16th 03 04:30 AM

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"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message ...
ZZ,
How many of our carriers have been sunk? They go out with an escort
that's hard to get by.Plus that carrier can carry that plane to within
striking range.


WWII carriers, many.
And since supercarriers are most known for where they can't go,
than where they can do, the question is irrelevent.

But I do agree with you that our Air Force should be first rate, but a first
rate Navy is no less important


Nobody has ever disputed that.
*Can the US Navy stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power?*
is the question.

ZZBunker November 16th 03 04:46 AM

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er (WalterScottGray) wrote in message news:XUWOAMBH37938.925625@anonymous...
The question is: How much will it all cost?


Not as much as it used to cost, which
was sending 100,000 troops in for
and invasion with a gator navy,
and having 10,000 of them come back dead,
and half of the gator navy destroyed.


http://www.usni.org/Proceedings/Arti...ROnatter11.htm

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Doug Kanter November 16th 03 03:12 PM

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"ZZBunker" wrote in message
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*Can the US Navy stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power?*
is the question.


No. That may require a handful of people with brains and the willingness to
listen. Maybe when pigs can fly.....



Fred J. McCall November 16th 03 03:27 PM

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"Doug Kanter" wrote:

:"ZZBunker" wrote in message
om...
:
: *Can the US Navy stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power?*
: is the question.
:
:No. That may require a handful of people with brains and the willingness to
:listen.

Well, that appears to let ZZBunker out on several grounds.

:Maybe when pigs can fly.....

Can ZZBunker fly?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

Steven Shelikoff November 17th 03 12:39 AM

The New Navy = $$$
 
On 15 Nov 2003 20:30:45 -0800, (ZZBunker) wrote:

*Can the US Navy stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power?*
is the question.


Of course. The Israeli Air Force stopped Iraq from becoming a nuclear
power. The only reasons the US Navy can't do the same thing in Iran are
political in nature, not lack of capability.

Steve

Doug Kanter November 17th 03 01:44 AM

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"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote:

:"ZZBunker" wrote in message
om...
:
: *Can the US Navy stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power?*
: is the question.
:
:No. That may require a handful of people with brains and the willingness

to
:listen.

Well, that appears to let ZZBunker out on several grounds.

:Maybe when pigs can fly.....

Can ZZBunker fly?


I was referring to politicians.



Fred J. McCall November 17th 03 02:19 PM

The New Navy = $$$
 
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

:"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
.. .
: "Doug Kanter" wrote:
:
: :"ZZBunker" wrote in message
: om...
: :
: : *Can the US Navy stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power?*
: : is the question.
: :
: :No. That may require a handful of people with brains and the willingness
:to
: :listen.
:
: Well, that appears to let ZZBunker out on several grounds.
:
: :Maybe when pigs can fly.....
:
: Can ZZBunker fly?
:
:
:I was referring to politicians.
:

Pigs is pigs.




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