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Northern Lake Michigan calling for 18'-22' waves, winds to 60 knots.
Yikes!!!
Gary

"WaIIy" wrote in message
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EAST HALF



...STORM WARNING IN EFFECT...



.TONIGHT...SOUTH WINDS 10 TO 20 KNOTS BECOMING SOUTHWEST 20 TO 25

KNOTS LATE IN THE EVENING...THEN INCREASING TO GALES TO 40 KNOTS

AFTER MIDNIGHT. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY. CHANCE OF SHOWERS

AND SNOW SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT. WAVES 1 TO 3 FEET BUILDING 4 TO 6

FEET TOWARD MIDNIGHT AND TO 9 TO 12 FEET BY MORNING.

.THURSDAY...WEST STORM FORCE WINDS TO 50 KNOTS DIMINISHING TO GALES

TO 45 KNOTS IN THE AFTERNOON. OCCASIONAL SNOW SHOWERS. WAVES 13 TO

17 FEET SUBSIDING TO 8 TO 11 FEET LATE IN THE AFTERNOON.

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

God I'me glad I don't live in snow country.
From the land of 68° and a noreaster blowin, the inland waters are a
little choppy, but the fish are bitein!

I send warm wishes to all my northern boatin brethern.

Capt. Frank

WaIIy wrote:

EAST HALF



...STORM WARNING IN EFFECT...



.TONIGHT...SOUTH WINDS 10 TO 20 KNOTS BECOMING SOUTHWEST 20 TO 25

KNOTS LATE IN THE EVENING...THEN INCREASING TO GALES TO 40 KNOTS

AFTER MIDNIGHT. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY. CHANCE OF SHOWERS

AND SNOW SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT. WAVES 1 TO 3 FEET BUILDING 4 TO 6

FEET TOWARD MIDNIGHT AND TO 9 TO 12 FEET BY MORNING.

.THURSDAY...WEST STORM FORCE WINDS TO 50 KNOTS DIMINISHING TO GALES

TO 45 KNOTS IN THE AFTERNOON. OCCASIONAL SNOW SHOWERS. WAVES 13 TO

17 FEET SUBSIDING TO 8 TO 11 FEET LATE IN THE AFTERNOON.

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

Anybody have a link to a live webcam of Lake Michigan?


"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:21:16 GMT, "Gary" wrote:

Northern Lake Michigan calling for 18'-22' waves, winds to 60 knots.
Yikes!!!
Gary

Big yikes, that's amazing.

I took a look at Lake Erie about an hour ago (midnight) and the waves
aren't all that high. It's very windy, but it's a South wind so the
near shore isn't too rough.

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

Incorrect Sir! Ohio has only two seasons...

Winter
Construction

:^)


In article , To wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:03:07 GMT, "Capt. Frank Hopkins"
wrote:

God I'me glad I don't live in snow country.
From the land of 68° and a noreaster blowin, the inland waters are a
little choppy, but the fish are bitein!

I send warm wishes to all my northern boatin brethern.

Capt. Frank


Enjoy yourself down there. We are now in a depression until about April
and the water won't really warm up until late June.

I love the Ohio seasons. July, August and Winter.

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https://webcam.crrel.usace.army.mil/soo/


"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Anybody have a link to a live webcam of Lake Michigan?


"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:21:16 GMT, "Gary" wrote:

Northern Lake Michigan calling for 18'-22' waves, winds to 60 knots.
Yikes!!!
Gary

Big yikes, that's amazing.

I took a look at Lake Erie about an hour ago (midnight) and the waves
aren't all that high. It's very windy, but it's a South wind so the
near shore isn't too rough.

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

http://www.lakemichigancam.com/
Grand Haven, MI


"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Anybody have a link to a live webcam of Lake Michigan?


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:21:16 GMT, "Gary" wrote:

Northern Lake Michigan calling for 18'-22' waves, winds to 60 knots.
Yikes!!!
Gary

Big yikes, that's amazing.

I took a look at Lake Erie about an hour ago (midnight) and the waves
aren't all that high. It's very windy, but it's a South wind so the
near shore isn't too rough.

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

Whole bunch of webcams. Michigan and other Great Lakes. Scroll down til you
see the cam links.
Gary
http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/seagrant/g...Conditions.htm


"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Anybody have a link to a live webcam of Lake Michigan?


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:21:16 GMT, "Gary" wrote:

Northern Lake Michigan calling for 18'-22' waves, winds to 60 knots.
Yikes!!!
Gary

Big yikes, that's amazing.

I took a look at Lake Erie about an hour ago (midnight) and the waves
aren't all that high. It's very windy, but it's a South wind so the
near shore isn't too rough.

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

In today's Detroit Free Press:

Water level at Toledo had been averaging 24" over datum. At height of storm,
the level had dropped to -72" from datum. About 8' change.
Buffalo expected to be +100"

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

I can remember a strong november storm of a couple of years ago. Bolles Harbor
where I keep my boat was bone dry, not a drop of water anywhere in the harbor
that was a drop of 12'. Any boats still in were sitting on the bottom. Waves
were reported to be 25' to 30' at the eastern Buffalo end of the lake. Yikes.

153 days to go..

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

What happens on the East side of Lake Erie (Buffalo area) when the SW winds
push that much water? Would the Upper Niagara River fill up and more volume
of water fall over the Falls? Then a less volume of water on average would
have to fall for a few days after that? Cool




"RGrew176" wrote in message
...
I can remember a strong november storm of a couple of years ago. Bolles
Harbor
where I keep my boat was bone dry, not a drop of water anywhere in the
harbor
that was a drop of 12'. Any boats still in were sitting on the bottom.
Waves
were reported to be 25' to 30' at the eastern Buffalo end of the lake.
Yikes.

153 days to go..

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

" Tuuk" wrote in message ...
What happens on the East side of Lake Erie (Buffalo area) when the SW winds
push that much water? Would the Upper Niagara River fill up and more volume
of water fall over the Falls? Then a less volume of water on average would
have to fall for a few days after that? Cool

The amount of water going over the falls is regulated by the electric
generating plants. After midnight, you can actually see the difference
in the amount of water going over the falls, they fill a huge lake at
night to generate power. During the day, the amount of water going
over the falls is regulated by treaties between the U.S. and Canada.
If not for those treaties, both countries would be sucking it dry!

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

Thanks for the info, interesting, so what would happen during a time when
there are very strong easterly winds, drawing the high seas to the western
side of the lake Erie and leaving the Buffalo side very low, I think its
only around 15 -20ft around there anyway. Should the water be bunched up at
the Western side of the lake, leaving very little volume on the Eastern
side, and the two huge hydro generating plants need their water, there could
be very very little left over for the falls itself???





"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
What happens on the East side of Lake Erie (Buffalo area) when the SW
winds
push that much water? Would the Upper Niagara River fill up and more
volume
of water fall over the Falls? Then a less volume of water on average
would
have to fall for a few days after that? Cool

The amount of water going over the falls is regulated by the electric
generating plants. After midnight, you can actually see the difference
in the amount of water going over the falls, they fill a huge lake at
night to generate power. During the day, the amount of water going
over the falls is regulated by treaties between the U.S. and Canada.
If not for those treaties, both countries would be sucking it dry!

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

For one, I think lake Erie's prevailing winds are out of the southwest, so
my guess is there is much less of a chance for a sustained wind out of the
east to cause what you are referring to as often as we woud see what
recently happened on the west end of the lake. Second the eastern end of
the lake is the deeper end, requiring much more energy to produce the same
impact.

My father went and looked out upon Maumee Bay (on the western end of Lake
Erie), during this last wind storm. IT WAS EMPTY!

Bob Dimond


In article , " Tuuk"
wrote:

Thanks for the info, interesting, so what would happen during a time when
there are very strong easterly winds, drawing the high seas to the western
side of the lake Erie and leaving the Buffalo side very low, I think its
only around 15 -20ft around there anyway. Should the water be bunched up at
the Western side of the lake, leaving very little volume on the Eastern
side, and the two huge hydro generating plants need their water, there could
be very very little left over for the falls itself???

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

Here's a link to the Corps of Engineers Detroit site. In the "Search" box,
enter "setup". There are three events recorded for Lake Erie- one is a PDF,
the other two give a graphic representation of the events ove the period
covered.

http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/index.cfm?ChnName=Search

Lake Erie Nasty Tonight
 

The eastern basin is the deepest part of the lake so I don't think a
sustained breeze would have much effect. The western basin is much more
shallow, allowing the wind to have the effect it does.

WaIIy wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:17:53 -0500, (Bob
D.) wrote:


For one, I think lake Erie's prevailing winds are out of the southwest, so
my guess is there is much less of a chance for a sustained wind out of the
east to cause what you are referring to as often as we woud see what
recently happened on the west end of the lake. Second the eastern end of
the lake is the deeper end, requiring much more energy to produce the same
impact.

My father went and looked out upon Maumee Bay (on the western end of Lake
Erie), during this last wind storm. IT WAS EMPTY!

Bob Dimond


Good observations, Robert. There rarely is an Easterly wind on Lake
Erie.