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Matt's Arcade November 8th 03 11:51 PM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....



Florida Keyz November 9th 03 12:46 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
I agree.

Clams Canino November 9th 03 12:50 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
I'm real close to using my "filters" in outlook.

-W

"Matt's Arcade" wrote in message
...
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....





Trond Solem November 9th 03 01:08 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
There is a group calles alt.politics

I recommend all who are intereste in discussing politics to move over to
that group, so that we boaters can still discuss boats and boating issues
here in this group. I don't care if this is concidered to be a virtual
marina. The whole internet is a virtual marina, so please choose your
audience as you would do in RL.

Trond
"Matt's Arcade" wrote in message
...
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....




Jim-- November 9th 03 01:25 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
Sounds like a whiner Matt.

Go for it.


"Matt's Arcade" wrote in message
...
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....





CaptMP November 9th 03 01:52 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
JUST boating related subjects???? WHAT??? ABSURD!! UNTHINKABLE!!

That said, whw soon, where and how. And how to keep the bozos out? If you can
figure it out, let me know.

Mike

Matt's Arcade November 9th 03 01:55 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
O.K.
Now that there's interest, what should we call it/them?
rec.boats.woodies (classic wood boats ie: Chris Craft)
rec.boats. ???

Let me know what you think and I'll create the new NG's.

Matt

"Matt's Arcade" wrote in message
...
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....





Greg O November 9th 03 02:41 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 

"Matt's Arcade" wrote in message
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O.K.
Now that there's interest, what should we call it/them?
rec.boats.woodies (classic wood boats ie: Chris Craft)
rec.boats. ???

Let me know what you think and I'll create the new NG's.

Matt


rec.boating.nopolitics
Greg



Greg O November 9th 03 02:43 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 

"Matt's Arcade" wrote in message
...
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....



Anyone who posts about boats should just use OT in the subject. In this case
it would mean - ON TOPIC!
The political bozos won't.
Greg



Capt. Frank Hopkins November 9th 03 03:36 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
You have any idea what's involved Matt? It's a real headache!
You start it and I'll post to it.

Perhaps it could be called alt.boats.ontopiconly

Best Wishes,

Capt Frank

Matt's Arcade wrote:

What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....




CaptMP November 9th 03 05:31 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
Greg, you have a good point about the OT identifier in the subject. Works real
good in the Harley Davidson NG's. But the (us) Harley folks are more cohesive
and less likely to respond to the Harry's of this world. If you can find a way
to make it work please let us (me) know!
Mike

Backyard Renegade November 9th 03 02:09 PM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
(CaptMP) wrote in message ...
JUST boating related subjects???? WHAT??? ABSURD!! UNTHINKABLE!!

That said, whw soon, where and how. And how to keep the bozos out? If you can
figure it out, let me know.

Mike


It is very simple. No matter how much the crap they post ****es you
off, let it go. The only reason Harry and JPS are here is to fight. If
there is no fight, they will get bored and move on.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com

Harry Krause November 9th 03 02:13 PM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
Backyard Renegade wrote:

(CaptMP) wrote in message ...
JUST boating related subjects???? WHAT??? ABSURD!! UNTHINKABLE!!

That said, whw soon, where and how. And how to keep the bozos out? If you can
figure it out, let me know.

Mike


It is very simple. No matter how much the crap they post ****es you
off, let it go. The only reason Harry and JPS are here is to fight. If
there is no fight, they will get bored and move on.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com



Wrong, booze-breath: *I'm* here for all the wonderful discussions about
boating that transcend the level of belles lettres. Or at least are
written in a semi-literate fashion.


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is never read.


jps November 9th 03 05:13 PM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
In article ,
says...
(CaptMP) wrote in message ...
JUST boating related subjects???? WHAT??? ABSURD!! UNTHINKABLE!!

That said, whw soon, where and how. And how to keep the bozos out? If you can
figure it out, let me know.

Mike


It is very simple. No matter how much the crap they post ****es you
off, let it go. The only reason Harry and JPS are here is to fight. If
there is no fight, they will get bored and move on.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com



"I think all foreigners should stop interfering in the internal affairs
of Iraq."
-- Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz,


JimL November 9th 03 07:24 PM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
I like it. But, unfortunately, I do think there needs to
be a moderator. It's not OT that's the real problem, it's the
jerks that OT post to provoke others. WTF are political
postings doing in this newsgroup anyway. If these folks want
a ****ing contest, I'm sure there are plenty of other groups
that would welcome the diatribe.

Note, I'm not really for censorship, but these ridiculous OT
posts have made me rethink that.

So, what' the procedure for starting a new group? If you need
help moderating, I'll volunteer.

-JimL


Matt's Arcade wrote:
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....




Joe Parsons November 9th 03 09:18 PM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:24:21 GMT, JimL wrote:

I like it. But, unfortunately, I do think there needs to
be a moderator. It's not OT that's the real problem, it's the
jerks that OT post to provoke others. WTF are political
postings doing in this newsgroup anyway. If these folks want
a ****ing contest, I'm sure there are plenty of other groups
that would welcome the diatribe.

Note, I'm not really for censorship, but these ridiculous OT
posts have made me rethink that.

So, what' the procedure for starting a new group? If you need
help moderating, I'll volunteer.


You can learn how to create a new Usenet newsgroup at
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%...isc.org&rnum=2.

I've been part of a newsgroup in the alt.* hierarchy for over a decade. It's a
NG that is often overrun by trolls and flamewars. Many times, people have said,
"We need a new, moderated newsgroup!" So we dutifully post the information on
new group creation and about moderation.

No one has ever stepped forward to begin that process. That's understandable,
given that it is a process that takes some time and is less than trivial. But
the information is at that URL, for anyone who'd like to check it out.

Joe Parsons


-JimL


Matt's Arcade wrote:
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....




Matt's Arcade November 10th 03 02:27 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
Thanks. I'll peruse it and see how to proceed.
I agree that we don't want to censor the posts, but it is so tiresome wading
through all the political posts :-(

Matt


"Joe Parsons" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:24:21 GMT, JimL

wrote:

I like it. But, unfortunately, I do think there needs to
be a moderator. It's not OT that's the real problem, it's the
jerks that OT post to provoke others. WTF are political
postings doing in this newsgroup anyway. If these folks want
a ****ing contest, I'm sure there are plenty of other groups
that would welcome the diatribe.

Note, I'm not really for censorship, but these ridiculous OT
posts have made me rethink that.

So, what' the procedure for starting a new group? If you need
help moderating, I'll volunteer.


You can learn how to create a new Usenet newsgroup at

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%...isc.org&rnum=2.

I've been part of a newsgroup in the alt.* hierarchy for over a decade.

It's a
NG that is often overrun by trolls and flamewars. Many times, people have

said,
"We need a new, moderated newsgroup!" So we dutifully post the

information on
new group creation and about moderation.

No one has ever stepped forward to begin that process. That's

understandable,
given that it is a process that takes some time and is less than trivial.

But
the information is at that URL, for anyone who'd like to check it out.

Joe Parsons


-JimL


Matt's Arcade wrote:
What do you think?

I'm so tired of wading through the OT posts....






Harry Krause November 10th 03 02:29 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
Matt's Arcade wrote:
Thanks. I'll peruse it and see how to proceed.
I agree that we don't want to censor the posts, but it is so tiresome wading
through all the political posts :-(

Matt


Tiresome? Serious question: do you have all your faculties? If there are
100 posts some days in rec.boats, I read about 25 of them, and simply
skip over the ones I don't want to read.

Takes a couple minutes to read the posts I want to read and post if I
feel like it.

Methinks these complaints are much ado about nothing.



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Bill November 12th 03 04:09 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
Me to0 !!!

"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
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I agree.




noah November 15th 03 02:28 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:29:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Matt's Arcade wrote:
Thanks. I'll peruse it and see how to proceed.
I agree that we don't want to censor the posts, but it is so tiresome wading
through all the political posts :-(

Matt


Tiresome? Serious question: do you have all your faculties? If there are
100 posts some days in rec.boats, I read about 25 of them, and simply
skip over the ones I don't want to read.

Takes a couple minutes to read the posts I want to read and post if I
feel like it.

Methinks these complaints are much ado about nothing.


Methinks you don't want anybody to miss your posts. :o)

If you're only seeing 100 per day, get a better newsserver.
rec.boats, on newscene, usually turns 500 a day, or more.
Regards,
noah

To email me, remove the "OT-" from wrecked.ot-boats.noah.
....as you were. :o)

Harry Krause November 15th 03 02:32 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
noah wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:29:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Matt's Arcade wrote:
Thanks. I'll peruse it and see how to proceed.
I agree that we don't want to censor the posts, but it is so tiresome wading
through all the political posts :-(

Matt


Tiresome? Serious question: do you have all your faculties? If there are
100 posts some days in rec.boats, I read about 25 of them, and simply
skip over the ones I don't want to read.

Takes a couple minutes to read the posts I want to read and post if I
feel like it.

Methinks these complaints are much ado about nothing.


Methinks you don't want anybody to miss your posts. :o)

If you're only seeing 100 per day, get a better newsserver.
rec.boats, on newscene, usually turns 500 a day, or more.
Regards,
noah

To email me, remove the "OT-" from wrecked.ot-boats.noah.
...as you were. :o)



I didn't state I was only seeing 100 a day, I stated that if there were
100 a day, I only read about 25 of them. If there are 500 a day, I might
read 35 or 50. There are any number of posters whose stuff I simply skip
over for one reason or another. Or message strings I skip entirely. Or I
only read a couple of posts from particular posters (Dave Hall, for
example), because the posters are so demented no purpose is served by
reading more than a dribble or two.

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Email sent to is never read.


noah November 15th 03 04:22 AM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:32:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

noah wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:29:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Matt's Arcade wrote:
Thanks. I'll peruse it and see how to proceed.
I agree that we don't want to censor the posts, but it is so tiresome wading
through all the political posts :-(

Matt


Tiresome? Serious question: do you have all your faculties? If there are
100 posts some days in rec.boats, I read about 25 of them, and simply
skip over the ones I don't want to read.

Takes a couple minutes to read the posts I want to read and post if I
feel like it.

Methinks these complaints are much ado about nothing.


Methinks you don't want anybody to miss your posts. :o)

If you're only seeing 100 per day, get a better newsserver.
rec.boats, on newscene, usually turns 500 a day, or more.
Regards,
noah

To email me, remove the "OT-" from wrecked.ot-boats.noah.
...as you were. :o)



I didn't state I was only seeing 100 a day, I stated that if there were
100 a day, I only read about 25 of them. If there are 500 a day, I might
read 35 or 50. There are any number of posters whose stuff I simply skip
over for one reason or another. Or message strings I skip entirely. Or I
only read a couple of posts from particular posters (Dave Hall, for
example), because the posters are so demented no purpose is served by
reading more than a dribble or two.


Harry,

I've read about your boats (the Parker being the most recent), and
I've posted to you a few times, but I've never gotten the feeling that
you encouraged or invited friendship in this newsgroup.

Am I correct?
Regards,
noah

To email me, remove the "OT-" from wrecked.ot-boats.noah.
....as you were. :o)

Harry Krause November 15th 03 01:20 PM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
noah wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:32:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

noah wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:29:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Matt's Arcade wrote:
Thanks. I'll peruse it and see how to proceed.
I agree that we don't want to censor the posts, but it is so tiresome wading
through all the political posts :-(

Matt


Tiresome? Serious question: do you have all your faculties? If there are
100 posts some days in rec.boats, I read about 25 of them, and simply
skip over the ones I don't want to read.

Takes a couple minutes to read the posts I want to read and post if I
feel like it.

Methinks these complaints are much ado about nothing.

Methinks you don't want anybody to miss your posts. :o)

If you're only seeing 100 per day, get a better newsserver.
rec.boats, on newscene, usually turns 500 a day, or more.
Regards,
noah

To email me, remove the "OT-" from wrecked.ot-boats.noah.
...as you were. :o)



I didn't state I was only seeing 100 a day, I stated that if there were
100 a day, I only read about 25 of them. If there are 500 a day, I might
read 35 or 50. There are any number of posters whose stuff I simply skip
over for one reason or another. Or message strings I skip entirely. Or I
only read a couple of posts from particular posters (Dave Hall, for
example), because the posters are so demented no purpose is served by
reading more than a dribble or two.


Harry,

I've read about your boats (the Parker being the most recent), and
I've posted to you a few times, but I've never gotten the feeling that
you encouraged or invited friendship in this newsgroup.

Am I correct?
Regards,
noah


I'm not sure what you are asking here, Noah. There have been a few
people I consider friends who over the years I first encountered in
newsgroups. I've even met a small number of them in person. Two or three
have become close friends whom I visit from time to time. Quite a few of
those whose on-line friendship I really enjoyed simply don't post here
anymore; I keep in touch with a couple of them via frequent or
occasional emails.

I'm not running for Congress, so I see no reason to zigzag so as to
cover all sides of the newsgroup and glad-hand everyone who shows up.
Most of my true friends I've known for 20, 30, 40 or even in a couple of
cases, 50 years.

--
Email sent to is never read.


Randy November 15th 03 07:00 PM

Lets start a new NG for just boating, not politics
 
Here is a idea:

How about every time there is a OT post everyone take the time to reply
to the post several times with no message at all,then the ones that is
doing the OT conversations will have to click onto MANY different post
just to read. Give them a taste of their own medicine and see how the
like to click onto many a lot of post that don't interest them :-)



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