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Capt. Frank Hopkins November 8th 03 05:25 PM

Hush Puppies
 
Oh I don't know Doug. Perhaps if we cook with self rising flour!
Give my recipe a try. In the words of Andy Griffith, its GooOOooood!

Capt. Frank

DSK wrote:


UglyDan®©™ wrote:


Jiffy corn muffin mix, Instead of baking, Throw it in your Fry Baby, Fry
Daddy or whatever you heat oil up in.



I'd suggest adding some finely diced onion, preferably wild onion or ramps.
Used to be relatively common in restaurant hushpuppies but now it is going
the way of sweet iced tea. The South apparently is not going to rise again
after all.....

DSK



Harry Krause November 8th 03 05:27 PM

Hush Puppies
 
Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

Here is s pretty good recipe. Hometown cookin from Mandarin FL.


Mandarin has the best Chinese restaurant in NE Florida. You live in
Mandarin?





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JimL November 8th 03 06:26 PM

Hush Puppies
 
Absolutely! But this mix has onions in it. Just looked at
the package I had and it says 'HushPuppy Mix with Onions'.
However, I don't know if this means they also sell a mix
without onions.

-JimL

Harry Krause wrote:

Onion is great in hushpuppies.



Doug Kanter November 8th 03 07:52 PM

Hush Puppies
 
I'm looking at a data file for Winn Dixie, and it shows a mix without
onions. UPC 73484-12303, WD code 0520038767. Carried by their Raleigh NC
division. Also carried by Merchants Distributors, Hickory NC, their code
19258. Shouldn't be hard for a retailer to order a case.

"JimL" wrote in message
...
Absolutely! But this mix has onions in it. Just looked at
the package I had and it says 'HushPuppy Mix with Onions'.
However, I don't know if this means they also sell a mix
without onions.

-JimL

Harry Krause wrote:

Onion is great in hushpuppies.





JimL November 9th 03 12:01 AM

Hush Puppies
 
Correction to my previous post. The brand is House-Autry and not
House of Autry.

With all this talk of hushpuppies, I started craving a fish fry
and fried up some fish and hushpuppies for dinner.

-JimL


Maynard G. Krebbs November 9th 03 12:13 AM

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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:46:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...


I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.

Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably

black
strap molasses for the sugar.



Marzetti makes a pretty good cole slaw dressing in a jar. But, stores never
put it right there with the other salad dressings. It's always off to the
side with the quirky stuff, with names like "Organic Sue's Stone Ground
Poppy Seed Dressing". There's also a dry mix that my ex's mother uses which
is spectacular. She says the stores keep it in the produce department.
Greenish packet. I think she just adds milk.


Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams

Maynard G. Krebbs November 9th 03 12:13 AM

Hush Puppies
 
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:46:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...


I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.

Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably

black
strap molasses for the sugar.



Marzetti makes a pretty good cole slaw dressing in a jar. But, stores never
put it right there with the other salad dressings. It's always off to the
side with the quirky stuff, with names like "Organic Sue's Stone Ground
Poppy Seed Dressing". There's also a dry mix that my ex's mother uses which
is spectacular. She says the stores keep it in the produce department.
Greenish packet. I think she just adds milk.


Also from the Brookville Hotel comes:

Fresh Frozen Country CREAMED STYLE CORN

2 1/2 Lb. box of frozen corn
1 teaspoon salt
3 teaspoons sugar
3/4 cup whipping cream or coffee cream
2 to 3 teaspoons cornstarch

Cook corn in a small amount of water. Add salt, sugar, and cream.
Bring to a boil and thicken with a mixture of cornstarch and a little
cream.
Serves 20 :o)

Mark E. Williams

JohnH November 9th 03 01:48 AM

Hush Puppies
 
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:36:10 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:04:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"


wrote:

"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...

Fresh water fishing in Puerto Rico?? UD

Good info on the lakes:
http://www.rainforestsafari.com/Fishing.html



...and...good info on why to be really careful around fresh water lakes

down
the
http://www.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact115.html


Never went in the water! Now I'm glad!!!

Thanks for the URL's, brought back some nice memories. I was 8-11 years

old when
my dad was in the Air Force down there.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


Yeah....bladder cancer from a dip in a cool lake! I don't know if I'd take
little kids fishing there, unless there was a second adult to make sure
their hands never went near their mouths until they'd washed.

It could be that these problems are relatively recent. I was in PR from
1951-1954, about 50 years ago. We fished from the bank. I don't recall any
warnings or worries about getting in the water, however.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH November 9th 03 01:48 AM

Hush Puppies
 
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:42:26 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:04:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"


wrote:

"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...

Fresh water fishing in Puerto Rico?? UD

Good info on the lakes:
http://www.rainforestsafari.com/Fishing.html



...and...good info on why to be really careful around fresh water lakes

down
the
http://www.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact115.html


Never went in the water! Now I'm glad!!!

Thanks for the URL's, brought back some nice memories. I was 8-11 years

old when
my dad was in the Air Force down there.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


Yeah....bladder cancer from a dip in a cool lake! I don't know if I'd take
little kids fishing there, unless there was a second adult to make sure
their hands never went near their mouths until they'd washed.


Now, now, Doug...it isn't nice to force reality into the picture here.

While living in Jacksonville and St. Augustine, Florida, some years ago,
I was horrified by the prospect of the military's "superfund" sites
adjacent to heavily populated areas. One of them, a Naval Air Station,
was right on the St. Johns River, a waterway popular for all sorts of
recreation, including fishing and boating.

Isn't the Bush Administration planning to exempt the military from
anti-pollution regs? Won't that have a nice impact on our waterways and
fisheries?

Only a twit would turn a hushpuppy thread into another forum for his politics.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH November 9th 03 01:48 AM

Hush Puppies
 
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:13:04 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:46:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...


I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.

Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably

black
strap molasses for the sugar.



Marzetti makes a pretty good cole slaw dressing in a jar. But, stores never
put it right there with the other salad dressings. It's always off to the
side with the quirky stuff, with names like "Organic Sue's Stone Ground
Poppy Seed Dressing". There's also a dry mix that my ex's mother uses which
is spectacular. She says the stores keep it in the produce department.
Greenish packet. I think she just adds milk.


Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams


I'm BBQ'ing a big ole pork shoulder roast tomorrow. Takes about 5 hours on the
Weber, but is really some good eatin'. Gonna try your recipe too. Thanks Mark!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Capt. Frank Hopkins November 9th 03 02:31 AM

Hush Puppies
 
I live on Julington Creek Harry About halfway between the bridge and Bayard.

Harry Krause wrote:

Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:


Here is s pretty good recipe. Hometown cookin from Mandarin FL.



Mandarin has the best Chinese restaurant in NE Florida. You live in
Mandarin?







Harry Krause November 9th 03 02:49 AM

Hush Puppies
 
Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

I live on Julington Creek Harry About halfway between the bridge and Bayard.

Harry Krause wrote:

Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:


Here is s pretty good recipe. Hometown cookin from Mandarin FL.



Mandarin has the best Chinese restaurant in NE Florida. You live in
Mandarin?








I know that area well, or at least I did until we moved away some years
ago. You know the Chinese restaurant I mean...the one on the right as
you head towards the Creek...in the nice little strip mall with the
beautiful live oaks? The shrimp and asparagus is delightful.
--
Email sent to is never read.


Capt. Frank Hopkins November 9th 03 03:15 AM

Hush Puppies
 
Harry,

This has NOTHING to do with hushpuppies,

I live on Julington Creek, and am a member of the local USCG Auxiliary.
I have been very concerned with the St. Johns River's health, even
before there was such a thing as a newsgroup.

The NAS superfund site was cleaned up during the Regan administration.

According to Dr. Carole DeMort, Federal Marine Biologist for the local
area Navy and Chairperson of University of North Florida's Marine
Biology Department, there are no such plans to exempt the military from
any environmental standards.

In fact, both Naval Air Station, and Mayport Naval Station have
installed a state of the art oil spill containment facilities and rapid
response units attached to the fire departments on bases.

The Jacksonville Fire Department also has a HAZMAT rapid response unit
on the 4 fireboats, and the local Coast Guard has a "2 million gallon
per hour slick guzzler" and 6000' of containment boom.

In my opinion, the military has done a faithful job of insuring site
cleanups and addressing containment issues.

Our worst (superfund) pollution problem is from the Hipps road landfill,
which was recently designated as a superfund site and is scheduled to be
delt with this spring.

The worst problem with the St. Johns is fertilizer runoff (storm water)
from all the privately owned lawns and farms in the Palatka & Green Cove
Springs area.

The river is much cleaner then it was even ten years ago, but we still
have a long way to go in efforts to return it to the pristine waterway
it was in the early 1800's. (That's when my family move to "Cowford")

See my website for a discussion of the river's springs and health.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks

Regards,
Capt. Frank

AND NOW BACK TO HUSHPUPIES!! YUM!

Harry Krause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..


On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:04:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"




wrote:


"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...


Fresh water fishing in Puerto Rico?? UD

Good info on the lakes:
http://www.rainforestsafari.com/Fishing.html



...and...good info on why to be really careful around fresh water lakes


down

the
http://www.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact115.html


Never went in the water! Now I'm glad!!!

Thanks for the URL's, brought back some nice memories. I was 8-11 years


old when

my dad was in the Air Force down there.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


Yeah....bladder cancer from a dip in a cool lake! I don't know if I'd take
little kids fishing there, unless there was a second adult to make sure
their hands never went near their mouths until they'd washed.



Now, now, Doug...it isn't nice to force reality into the picture here.

While living in Jacksonville and St. Augustine, Florida, some years ago,
I was horrified by the prospect of the military's "superfund" sites
adjacent to heavily populated areas. One of them, a Naval Air Station,
was right on the St. Johns River, a waterway popular for all sorts of
recreation, including fishing and boating.

Isn't the Bush Administration planning to exempt the military from
anti-pollution regs? Won't that have a nice impact on our waterways and
fisheries?




Capt. Frank Hopkins November 9th 03 03:20 AM

Hush Puppies
 
Unfortunately, the chinese restaurant is gone, and replaced by a rather
large shopping center. But, others have opened. I went to Wasabi's for
sushi tonight. It was great.

You would not believe the changes in the last 5 or 6 years. A growth
rate of 600%!

CF

Harry Krause wrote:
Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:


I live on Julington Creek Harry About halfway between the bridge and Bayard.

Harry Krause wrote:


Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:



Here is s pretty good recipe. Hometown cookin from Mandarin FL.



Mandarin has the best Chinese restaurant in NE Florida. You live in
Mandarin?








I know that area well, or at least I did until we moved away some years
ago. You know the Chinese restaurant I mean...the one on the right as
you head towards the Creek...in the nice little strip mall with the
beautiful live oaks? The shrimp and asparagus is delightful.



Harry Krause November 9th 03 04:31 AM

Hush Puppies
 
Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

Harry,

This has NOTHING to do with hushpuppies,

I live on Julington Creek, and am a member of the local USCG Auxiliary.
I have been very concerned with the St. Johns River's health, even
before there was such a thing as a newsgroup.

The NAS superfund site was cleaned up during the Regan administration.


Nope. Sorry. It is still on the list.



According to Dr. Carole DeMort, Federal Marine Biologist for the local
area Navy and Chairperson of University of North Florida's Marine
Biology Department, there are no such plans to exempt the military from
any environmental standards.


Dr. DeMort is uninformed. It is under discussion in Washington, D.C.,
and is being debated.




In fact, both Naval Air Station, and Mayport Naval Station have
installed a state of the art oil spill containment facilities and rapid
response units attached to the fire departments on bases.


You've been reading PR statements.


In my opinion, the military has done a faithful job of insuring site
cleanups and addressing containment issues.


My opinion and that of many others who really watch this stuff is that
the military is paying lip service to the concept.


--
Email sent to is never read.


JohnH November 10th 03 12:26 AM

Hush Puppies
 
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:13:04 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:



Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams


Thanks Mark! This is a great recipe. Simple and good. Everyone enjoyed the hell
out of it, even my wife who normally won't touch cole slaw. This one is a
keeper!

The only change I made was to add about a teaspoon of coarse ground black
pepper, mainly for some color. Good Stuff!!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Doug Kanter November 10th 03 01:42 AM

Hush Puppies
 
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:42:26 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:04:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...

Fresh water fishing in Puerto Rico?? UD

Good info on the lakes:
http://www.rainforestsafari.com/Fishing.html



...and...good info on why to be really careful around fresh water

lakes
down
the
http://www.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact115.html


Never went in the water! Now I'm glad!!!

Thanks for the URL's, brought back some nice memories. I was 8-11

years
old when
my dad was in the Air Force down there.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Yeah....bladder cancer from a dip in a cool lake! I don't know if I'd

take
little kids fishing there, unless there was a second adult to make sure
their hands never went near their mouths until they'd washed.


Now, now, Doug...it isn't nice to force reality into the picture here.

While living in Jacksonville and St. Augustine, Florida, some years ago,
I was horrified by the prospect of the military's "superfund" sites
adjacent to heavily populated areas. One of them, a Naval Air Station,
was right on the St. Johns River, a waterway popular for all sorts of
recreation, including fishing and boating.

Isn't the Bush Administration planning to exempt the military from
anti-pollution regs? Won't that have a nice impact on our waterways and
fisheries?

Only a twit would turn a hushpuppy thread into another forum for his

politics.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


Harry got carried away. But, in fact, he's correct in his statement.



Maynard G. Krebbs November 10th 03 05:32 AM

Hush Puppies
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:26:58 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:13:04 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:



Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams


Thanks Mark! This is a great recipe. Simple and good. Everyone enjoyed the hell
out of it, even my wife who normally won't touch cole slaw. This one is a
keeper!

The only change I made was to add about a teaspoon of coarse ground black
pepper, mainly for some color. Good Stuff!!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD



You're welcome.
Mark E. Willaims

DSK November 10th 03 11:38 AM

Hush Puppies
 
Backyard Renegade wrote:


.... contrary to
popular thinking, no state with a border on the atlantic ocean should
be considered "south".


Don't know much about geography, do you?

DSK


DSK November 10th 03 11:45 AM

Hush Puppies
 


"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote:

Unfortunately, the chinese restaurant is gone, and replaced by a rather
large shopping center. But, others have opened. I went to Wasabi's for
sushi tonight. It was great.

You would not believe the changes in the last 5 or 6 years. A growth
rate of 600%!


My last duty station in the late '80s was a ship out of Mayport, and lived in the
Jax area for several years after. My favorite place was Chang's Mongolian BBQ down
at Jax Beach, but there were a lot of good restaurants. THe area was growing
incredibly fast then and traffic & crowding was getting intolerable. I'm not sorry
I moved away (for one thing, I met my wife here) but it is sad to see this
happening to so many nice areas (including here).

Regards
Doug King


Keith November 10th 03 12:43 PM

Hush Puppies
 
What, no Mayonaise? Blasphemy!

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:46:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...


I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.

Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably

black
strap molasses for the sugar.



Marzetti makes a pretty good cole slaw dressing in a jar. But, stores

never
put it right there with the other salad dressings. It's always off to the
side with the quirky stuff, with names like "Organic Sue's Stone Ground
Poppy Seed Dressing". There's also a dry mix that my ex's mother uses

which
is spectacular. She says the stores keep it in the produce department.
Greenish packet. I think she just adds milk.


Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams




JohnH November 10th 03 09:28 PM

Hush Puppies
 
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:43:00 -0600, "Keith" wrote:

What, no Mayonaise? Blasphemy!

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:46:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...


I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.
Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably
black
strap molasses for the sugar.



Marzetti makes a pretty good cole slaw dressing in a jar. But, stores

never
put it right there with the other salad dressings. It's always off to the
side with the quirky stuff, with names like "Organic Sue's Stone Ground
Poppy Seed Dressing". There's also a dry mix that my ex's mother uses

which
is spectacular. She says the stores keep it in the produce department.
Greenish packet. I think she just adds milk.


Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams



Keith, try this stuff. Do exactly as the recipe says. It's great!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Lloyd Sumpter November 10th 03 09:55 PM

Hush Puppies
 
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:37:25 +0000, JohnH wrote:

When I was a kid, my dad would take me fishing at one of the fresh water lakes
in Puerto Rico. We would catch a washtub full of catfish and have a fish fry for
the neighborhood that afternoon. My mother would fix hush puppies to go with the
catfish. They were the best hp's I've ever had, and I've not been able to
duplicate them. I can't even come close!

Question: Who has a fantastic hush puppy recipe? Next, what is the recipe. My
mom died several years ago, and one of my biggest boo-boos was my failure to get
that recipe.

Help!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - in the "deep south" of Canada...


Doug Kanter November 10th 03 10:02 PM

Hush Puppies
 
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:37:25 +0000, JohnH wrote:

When I was a kid, my dad would take me fishing at one of the fresh water

lakes
in Puerto Rico. We would catch a washtub full of catfish and have a fish

fry for
the neighborhood that afternoon. My mother would fix hush puppies to go

with the
catfish. They were the best hp's I've ever had, and I've not been able

to
duplicate them. I can't even come close!

Question: Who has a fantastic hush puppy recipe? Next, what is the

recipe. My
mom died several years ago, and one of my biggest boo-boos was my

failure to get
that recipe.

Help!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - in the "deep south" of Canada...


OK....which of you Southern boys is gonna send Lloyd a few boxes of hush
puppy mix?



DownTime November 10th 03 10:27 PM

Hush Puppies
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
snipped for my benefit

So Harry, any hush puppy recipes you can share?

thanx in advance!



Capt. Frank Hopkins November 10th 03 10:33 PM

Hush Puppies
 
Hi Doug, Chang's Chinese is still around and has expanded to 3
locations. Jacksonville and surrounding area has quintupled in size
since the 80's and the population topped the million mark in '96.

There is a "new" mall at the intersection of Southside Blvd. and
Phillips Hwy. (US1) in which opened a Bouca De Beppo, Italian
restaurant. Mighty tasty food. The city government passed a vote "The
Better Jacksonville Plan" and is re-building older infrastructure, and
adding a great deal of new stuff.
The old Veteran's Memorial Coliseum has been torn down and the new 12,00
seat "Jacksonville Arena" has been built in its place. It opens in a few
days with an Elton John concert. The memorial wall was saved and is a
permanent fixture of the sports/entertainment complex.
New parks and boat launching ramps are under construction all over the
city. You will recall the nightmare trip into Mayport Naval station if
you had to make a north turn from Atlantic blvd. This has been remedied
with a dedicated overpass which flies from Atlantic to Mayport Rd. There
is also a new expressway "Wonderwood expressway" which will connect into
Mayport Road from north of Regency Square. Most of it is a long bridge.
295 is now a loop around both sides of the city, the southern/eastern
portion designated 9A. It sports an impressive bridge (Dame Point
Bridge) and more than 75 overpasses. I can now go from Mandarin to the
Beaches in less then 20 minuets. A trip which once took over an hour and
was 20 miles longer.

I have some live rivercams on my website if you wish to have a look.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks/stjohns.html

Regards,
Capt. Frank

DSK wrote:

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote:


Unfortunately, the chinese restaurant is gone, and replaced by a rather
large shopping center. But, others have opened. I went to Wasabi's for
sushi tonight. It was great.

You would not believe the changes in the last 5 or 6 years. A growth
rate of 600%!



My last duty station in the late '80s was a ship out of Mayport, and lived in the
Jax area for several years after. My favorite place was Chang's Mongolian BBQ down
at Jax Beach, but there were a lot of good restaurants. THe area was growing
incredibly fast then and traffic & crowding was getting intolerable. I'm not sorry
I moved away (for one thing, I met my wife here) but it is sad to see this
happening to so many nice areas (including here).

Regards
Doug King



Capt. Frank Hopkins November 10th 03 10:36 PM

Hush Puppies
 
A small ball of "hushpuppy dough" deep fried to a golden brown. Try one
of the recipes. They are great.

CF

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:37:25 +0000, JohnH wrote:


When I was a kid, my dad would take me fishing at one of the fresh water lakes
in Puerto Rico. We would catch a washtub full of catfish and have a fish fry for
the neighborhood that afternoon. My mother would fix hush puppies to go with the
catfish. They were the best hp's I've ever had, and I've not been able to
duplicate them. I can't even come close!

Question: Who has a fantastic hush puppy recipe? Next, what is the recipe. My
mom died several years ago, and one of my biggest boo-boos was my failure to get
that recipe.

Help!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD



After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - in the "deep south" of Canada...



DownTime November 10th 03 10:36 PM

Hush Puppies
 
same here as well, except growing up on NE, it is not exactly the Mecca of
southern cooking. now if you want to debate pizza, bring it on!

anyone else have goobers in their cole slaw? my friend's dad from Oklahoma
makes it from scratch when he visits and i can eat it by the bowl full.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.

Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably

black
strap molasses for the sugar.






Peggie Hall November 10th 03 10:41 PM

Hush Puppies
 
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)


A REAL hush puppy is nothing but a bit of fried corn bread batter. Hush
puppies are so named because that's exactly what their orginal purpose
was: something to toss to hungry barking dogs to shut 'em up. It was
only after someone (prob'ly a Yankee...Yankees don't really like real
southern cooking, so they change it into something else and pretend it's
still southern cooking) decided to turn hush puppies into people food
that recipes began to include onions, jalapenos and whatever else.

REAL southern cooking is what some people call "soul food" 'cuz that
sounds trendier than "poor folks food". But that's what it really is.
Wheat flour is hard to come by in the south, but anyone can grow
corn...and they invented cornbread....and hominy...and how to make
grits. "High class" green vegetables like peas and green beans cost
more to grow than turnips...carrots only grow in sandy soil (the south
is red clay)...and someone found that turnip greens (the part of the
turnip that grows above ground) are edible if simmered with "fat back"
(a chunk of bacon trimmings), salt and pepper. Pigs don't cost much to
raise, so they had meat and learned how to preserve it...since they
couldn't afford to waste anything, they also learned how make pig's feet
and hog jowls edible...and turn the entrails into chitterlings
(correctly pronounced "chitlins"--and the the only thing I know of that
tastes and smells worse is Scottish haggis). They grew peanuts and
learned to boil 'em as well as roast 'em. This was--and is--the diet of
poor southerners, black AND white.

But some time during the civil rights era, it got the name "soul food"
and for a while was THE "in cuisine" among the trendy. But people who
can afford better don't like it, so they had to change it into something
they do like while calling it by its orginal names. And that includes
hush puppies, which are actually nothing more a bite size bit of stone
ground cornmeal and buttermilk fried in some lard.

Peggie
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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


UglyDan®©™ November 10th 03 10:58 PM

Hush Puppies
 
Lloyd, Don't know if you guys have "Skippers" (I know don't wake the
dead) seafood restaurants up your way,(Seattle does)but if so, They just
started serving Hush Puppies, not bad either, and since I don't live in
Ballard anymore to get to my favorite fish place's, Gordo's or Totem
House, I have no choice but "Skippers" UD



http://community.webtv.net/capuglyda...inUglyDansJack


Lloyd Sumpter November 11th 03 01:46 AM

Hush Puppies
 
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:41:46 +0000, Peggie Hall wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a "hush-puppy"
is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)


A REAL hush puppy is nothing but a bit of fried corn bread batter. Hush puppies
are so named because that's exactly what their orginal purpose was: something to
toss to hungry barking dogs to shut 'em up. It was only after someone (prob'ly a
Yankee...Yankees don't really like real southern cooking, so they change it into
something else and pretend it's still southern cooking) decided to turn hush
puppies into people food that recipes began to include onions, jalapenos and
whatever else.


Well, once again Peggy posts one of the most informative posts I've seen in a
while. Thanks, Peggy!

We have a cornmeal "bread" known as bannock, originated by the natives. (it's
actually really good stuff to make onboard - doesn't take an over, etc.). I'll
trade you some bannock for some hushpuppies...

Lloyd


Keith November 11th 03 12:33 PM

Hush Puppies
 
I grew up eating all that stuff here in Texas. BTW, there is PLENTY of sandy
soil in TX... we can grow carrots! BTW, you forgot Collard Greens and
Cracklin's.... pork fat fried until crispy, sorta. The genesis of what they
call pork rinds in the store, but a LOT heavier and greasier... probably the
most direct way to a heart attack I can think of!

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)


A REAL hush puppy is nothing but a bit of fried corn bread batter. Hush
puppies are so named because that's exactly what their orginal purpose
was: something to toss to hungry barking dogs to shut 'em up. It was
only after someone (prob'ly a Yankee...Yankees don't really like real
southern cooking, so they change it into something else and pretend it's
still southern cooking) decided to turn hush puppies into people food
that recipes began to include onions, jalapenos and whatever else.

REAL southern cooking is what some people call "soul food" 'cuz that
sounds trendier than "poor folks food". But that's what it really is.
Wheat flour is hard to come by in the south, but anyone can grow
corn...and they invented cornbread....and hominy...and how to make
grits. "High class" green vegetables like peas and green beans cost
more to grow than turnips...carrots only grow in sandy soil (the south
is red clay)...and someone found that turnip greens (the part of the
turnip that grows above ground) are edible if simmered with "fat back"
(a chunk of bacon trimmings), salt and pepper. Pigs don't cost much to
raise, so they had meat and learned how to preserve it...since they
couldn't afford to waste anything, they also learned how make pig's feet
and hog jowls edible...and turn the entrails into chitterlings
(correctly pronounced "chitlins"--and the the only thing I know of that
tastes and smells worse is Scottish haggis). They grew peanuts and
learned to boil 'em as well as roast 'em. This was--and is--the diet of
poor southerners, black AND white.

But some time during the civil rights era, it got the name "soul food"
and for a while was THE "in cuisine" among the trendy. But people who
can afford better don't like it, so they had to change it into something
they do like while calling it by its orginal names. And that includes
hush puppies, which are actually nothing more a bite size bit of stone
ground cornmeal and buttermilk fried in some lard.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html





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