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Keyser Söze[_3_] April 22nd 21 05:20 PM

Windows ARM
 
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for
ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember
Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer
games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over
to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like WORD for Windows...just
completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my
MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

justan April 22nd 21 08:45 PM

Windows ARM
 
Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *


Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.
--
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[email protected] April 22nd 21 09:35 PM

Windows ARM
 
On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 3:45:10 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *


Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.


Haha! Windows is easy, at least for someone who is just a bit technically competent.
Harry has stories of of having to call Apple support for his Mac problems. Anyone that
can't run a Mac without support is severely lacking in those tech skills. Maybe
an Etch-a-Sketch is in his future.

justan April 22nd 21 10:01 PM

Windows ARM
 
" Wrote in message:r
On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 3:45:10 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. * Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine. Haha! Windows is easy, at least for someone who is just a bit technically competent. Harry has stories of of having to call Apple support for his Mac problems. Anyone that can't run a Mac without support is severely lacking in those tech skills. Maybe an Etch-a-Sketch is in his future.


They designed apple products to be used by 6 year olds. Every
Apple store has geniuses to assist morons who can't figure the
stuff out. Fat Harry has been to Apple stores on countless
occasions to get operational help. Most folks work out their
problems by themselves or dial a help line for answers.

--
Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet?


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https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html

[email protected] April 22nd 21 10:30 PM

Windows ARM
 
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like

WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.


I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.

Keyser Söze[_3_] April 22nd 21 10:38 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like

WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.


I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

[email protected] April 23rd 21 01:37 AM

Windows ARM
 
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:38:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is

like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.


I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.


I agree Windoze is a bloated pig but IOS isn't a lightweight either.
Just how big is your machine?
I am doing just fine with 3g of RAM and a dual core Intel 2.4gz
processor running 7.
I am planning to bump this up to 8g but the guys sent me the wrong
chips so I am still watching for the mail man.
The only thing that grinds this down is Facebook. That bloated pig
eats over 2g all by itself after a while., It is like, once they start
a script, they never stop it and just keep piling new ones on. I can
"X" out and restart it and it is OK until I run a while. Then it
starts slowing down again and I am paging like a mo fo. I even have an
SSD C: drive and that makes it better but task manager tells me I am
choked for RAM.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX.

I only have one machine hooked to Telco now and it is my W/98 laptop.
The fax program on it is pretty good tho. I have sent exactly one fax
since 2002 when my inspector contract expired.
That one was a waste of time.

My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


This old HP flatbed predates USB. I only liked it because 11x14 was
the smallest plan you could submit to Lee DCD (permit people). I could
draw up a plan on my CAD, Judy could print it at work on their big
printer and I could scan it after it was stamped.
It is pretty high resolution so it also makes it fast to scan a bunch
of pictures.
I do have a few USB scanners around here too but they are just
slightly oversized single page scanners.

Keyser Soze April 23rd 21 01:59 AM

Windows ARM
 
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:38:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is

like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.


I agree Windoze is a bloated pig but IOS isn't a lightweight either.
Just how big is your machine?
I am doing just fine with 3g of RAM and a dual core Intel 2.4gz
processor running 7.
I am planning to bump this up to 8g but the guys sent me the wrong
chips so I am still watching for the mail man.
The only thing that grinds this down is Facebook. That bloated pig
eats over 2g all by itself after a while., It is like, once they start
a script, they never stop it and just keep piling new ones on. I can
"X" out and restart it and it is OK until I run a while. Then it
starts slowing down again and I am paging like a mo fo. I even have an
SSD C: drive and that makes it better but task manager tells me I am
choked for RAM.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX.

I only have one machine hooked to Telco now and it is my W/98 laptop.
The fax program on it is pretty good tho. I have sent exactly one fax
since 2002 when my inspector contract expired.
That one was a waste of time.

My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


This old HP flatbed predates USB. I only liked it because 11x14 was
the smallest plan you could submit to Lee DCD (permit people). I could
draw up a plan on my CAD, Judy could print it at work on their big
printer and I could scan it after it was stamped.
It is pretty high resolution so it also makes it fast to scan a bunch
of pictures.
I do have a few USB scanners around here too but they are just
slightly oversized single page scanners.


Machine size: laptop has 16 GB of ram and 500 GB solid state drive. One
step up from standard issue. Desktop has 64 GB of ram and 500 GB solid
state drive. I only scan simple documents. Wife has better multi page
scanner to accommodate the long documents she has to scan. Nothing hooked
up to telco copper…we no longer have telco lines.

--
Lock Trump Up

True North[_2_] April 23rd 21 02:19 AM

Windows ARM
 
On Thursday, 22 April 2021 at 21:59:42 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:38:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is

like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.


I agree Windoze is a bloated pig but IOS isn't a lightweight either.
Just how big is your machine?
I am doing just fine with 3g of RAM and a dual core Intel 2.4gz
processor running 7.
I am planning to bump this up to 8g but the guys sent me the wrong
chips so I am still watching for the mail man.
The only thing that grinds this down is Facebook. That bloated pig
eats over 2g all by itself after a while., It is like, once they start
a script, they never stop it and just keep piling new ones on. I can
"X" out and restart it and it is OK until I run a while. Then it
starts slowing down again and I am paging like a mo fo. I even have an
SSD C: drive and that makes it better but task manager tells me I am
choked for RAM.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX.

I only have one machine hooked to Telco now and it is my W/98 laptop.
The fax program on it is pretty good tho. I have sent exactly one fax
since 2002 when my inspector contract expired.
That one was a waste of time.

My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


This old HP flatbed predates USB. I only liked it because 11x14 was
the smallest plan you could submit to Lee DCD (permit people). I could
draw up a plan on my CAD, Judy could print it at work on their big
printer and I could scan it after it was stamped.
It is pretty high resolution so it also makes it fast to scan a bunch
of pictures.
I do have a few USB scanners around here too but they are just
slightly oversized single page scanners.

Machine size: laptop has 16 GB of ram and 500 GB solid state drive. One
step up from standard issue. Desktop has 64 GB of ram and 500 GB solid
state drive. I only scan simple documents. Wife has better multi page
scanner to accommodate the long documents she has to scan. Nothing hooked
up to telco copper…we no longer have telco lines.

--
Lock Trump Up



I've got a Canon CanoScan 8800 flatbed scanner that also does various size negatives and even slides.
Doesn't work with Windows 10. I read that there are a couple of fixes but no luck so far. I miss it.

Keyser Söze[_3_] April 23rd 21 02:26 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/22/21 8:59 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:38:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is

like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.


I agree Windoze is a bloated pig but IOS isn't a lightweight either.
Just how big is your machine?
I am doing just fine with 3g of RAM and a dual core Intel 2.4gz
processor running 7.
I am planning to bump this up to 8g but the guys sent me the wrong
chips so I am still watching for the mail man.
The only thing that grinds this down is Facebook. That bloated pig
eats over 2g all by itself after a while., It is like, once they start
a script, they never stop it and just keep piling new ones on. I can
"X" out and restart it and it is OK until I run a while. Then it
starts slowing down again and I am paging like a mo fo. I even have an
SSD C: drive and that makes it better but task manager tells me I am
choked for RAM.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX.

I only have one machine hooked to Telco now and it is my W/98 laptop.
The fax program on it is pretty good tho. I have sent exactly one fax
since 2002 when my inspector contract expired.
That one was a waste of time.

My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


This old HP flatbed predates USB. I only liked it because 11x14 was
the smallest plan you could submit to Lee DCD (permit people). I could
draw up a plan on my CAD, Judy could print it at work on their big
printer and I could scan it after it was stamped.
It is pretty high resolution so it also makes it fast to scan a bunch
of pictures.
I do have a few USB scanners around here too but they are just
slightly oversized single page scanners.


Machine size: laptop has 16 GB of ram and 500 GB solid state drive. One
step up from standard issue. Desktop has 64 GB of ram and 500 GB solid
state drive. I only scan simple documents. Wife has better multi page
scanner to accommodate the long documents she has to scan. Nothing hooked
up to telco copper…we no longer have telco lines.



BTW, RAM sticks and SSD drives have come WAY down in price the last few
years. You can buy a top of the line, fast external 500 GB SSD for $60
to $75 and 64 GB of RAM sticks for under $200. Revolving drives for the
most part are obsolete.

--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

[email protected] April 23rd 21 04:23 PM

Windows ARM
 
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:26:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/22/21 8:59 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:38:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is
like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.


I agree Windoze is a bloated pig but IOS isn't a lightweight either.
Just how big is your machine?
I am doing just fine with 3g of RAM and a dual core Intel 2.4gz
processor running 7.
I am planning to bump this up to 8g but the guys sent me the wrong
chips so I am still watching for the mail man.
The only thing that grinds this down is Facebook. That bloated pig
eats over 2g all by itself after a while., It is like, once they start
a script, they never stop it and just keep piling new ones on. I can
"X" out and restart it and it is OK until I run a while. Then it
starts slowing down again and I am paging like a mo fo. I even have an
SSD C: drive and that makes it better but task manager tells me I am
choked for RAM.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX.
I only have one machine hooked to Telco now and it is my W/98 laptop.
The fax program on it is pretty good tho. I have sent exactly one fax
since 2002 when my inspector contract expired.
That one was a waste of time.

My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

This old HP flatbed predates USB. I only liked it because 11x14 was
the smallest plan you could submit to Lee DCD (permit people). I could
draw up a plan on my CAD, Judy could print it at work on their big
printer and I could scan it after it was stamped.
It is pretty high resolution so it also makes it fast to scan a bunch
of pictures.
I do have a few USB scanners around here too but they are just
slightly oversized single page scanners.


Machine size: laptop has 16 GB of ram and 500 GB solid state drive. One
step up from standard issue. Desktop has 64 GB of ram and 500 GB solid
state drive. I only scan simple documents. Wife has better multi page
scanner to accommodate the long documents she has to scan. Nothing hooked
up to telco copper…we no longer have telco lines.



BTW, RAM sticks and SSD drives have come WAY down in price the last few
years. You can buy a top of the line, fast external 500 GB SSD for $60
to $75 and 64 GB of RAM sticks for under $200. Revolving drives for the
most part are obsolete.


SSDs are fine if you have good backups but when you are using them for
page files, they crap out pretty fast. They are only rated for a MTBF
of around 10,000 writes per cell. A page file can rack that up pretty
fast, particularly if the drive is fairly full and the firmware can't
shuffle the cells around. I am running one as my C: but I also back up
the image fairly often.
I am still using oxide for my data.

Mr. Luddite[_6_] April 23rd 21 08:52 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like

WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.


I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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True North[_2_] April 23rd 21 10:30 PM

Windows ARM
 
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.

Keyser Soze April 23rd 21 11:10 PM

Windows ARM
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


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Bill[_12_] April 23rd 21 11:54 PM

Windows ARM
 
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.


Keyser Soze April 24th 21 12:28 AM

Windows ARM
 
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.



Apps are updated as they are released. The apps built into the OS typically
are updated when you update the OS.

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[email protected] April 24th 21 12:41 AM

Windows ARM
 
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:52:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.


I have been a fan of PCs hooked to TVs since the Pentium 2 days when
the DVD player would run. That was using composite video since the 15
pin connector had not showed up on TVs yet, way before HDMI.
I still have a few composite video cards in the shop. The Dell under
the TV in the living room is HDMI and most others use the 15 pin.

Mr. Luddite[_5_] April 24th 21 10:11 AM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.



One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it.
It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus
a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall.

I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on
a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the
winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits.

I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed
but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up
to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it
doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off.



Mr. Luddite[_5_] April 24th 21 10:13 AM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/23/2021 6:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



Wasn't my experience when I had the last Mac I tried. Forget what it
was called but it was a large screen, all in one model. When Apple
would change the OS from time to time it took forever to download
and install.



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Mr. Luddite[_6_] April 24th 21 01:39 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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https://www.avg.com



Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.


I use the shed just about every day for something.
Sometimes it's just sitting watching TV.
So, I put the heater on in the morning. Once it
gets warm inside, it stays warm for quite a while,
even with the heater off.
No problems with dampness.



Justan April 24th 21 01:43 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/24/21 5:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com



Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.



One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it.
It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus
a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall.

I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on
a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the
winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits.

I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed
but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up
to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it
doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off.


Thats great. If your weather ever gets as bad as it does in Halifax, you'll
be ready for it. ;-)

--
No more bull****

Keyser Söze[_3_] April 24th 21 02:05 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/24/21 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2021 6:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago.Â* She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed.Â* It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now.Â* I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall.Â* Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Â*Â* Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



Wasn't my experience when I had the last Mac I tried.Â* Forget what it
was called but it was a large screen, all in one model.Â* When Apple
would change the OS from time to time it took forever to download
and install.



Might be related to the speed of your internet connection, the
capability of your wifi or hardwired port, the speed of your hard drive.



--
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True North[_2_] April 24th 21 02:29 PM

Windows ARM
 
On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 09:43:55 UTC-3, undefined wrote:
On 4/24/21 5:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech..
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com


Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.



One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it.
It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus
a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall.

I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on
a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the
winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits.

I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed
but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up
to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it
doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off.


Thats great. If your weather ever gets as bad as it does in Halifax, you'll
be ready for it. ;-)

--
No more bull****



Duh!
Richard probably gets a bit more privacy of the colder weather than we do. Since we're almost surrounded by the Atlantic, our weather is moderated by it. Dampness and high winds are probably worse up here. Snow, on the other hand, might be similar since most of our storms seem to come up from the Boston states.

[email protected] April 24th 21 05:46 PM

Windows ARM
 
On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:54:14 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.


He's not really talking about a "full" OS update, that's just a small, incremental update on a Mac. Luddite was updating a PC that hadn't been updated for nearly 1-1/2 years. Huge difference. PC incremental updates are 2-5 minutes, and a huge OS release is 20-30 minutes.
Having worked with both platforms, side-by-side in corporate environment, a Mac is only marginally better about needing updates. That's driven by the fact the PC's are targeted continually by hackers, and Mac's aren't. Mac users are in the extreme minority.

"Statistics show that Microsoft Windows has approximately 91% of the market share, while the Apple Mac OS has around 5% of the market share. The other 4% is owned by other operating systems such as Linux."

Why would a hacker waste their time on the Mac platform? Write a hack that can hit 91% of the market, or one that can get just 5%?

And why the huge disparity in market share? In the past, Macs had better graphics and were superior game machines, but at a hefty cost. If you needed to do work, PC's were your obvious choice. Now the graphics performance is even, so there's not much of a reason to go with a Mac anymore, except to be different. Hell, people with Macs are running Windows on them so they can run Windows programs! Can you say "duh"?

True North[_2_] April 24th 21 05:51 PM

Windows ARM
 
On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 10:29:54 UTC-3, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 09:43:55 UTC-3, undefined wrote:
On 4/24/21 5:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection..

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com


Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.



One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it.
It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus
a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall.

I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on
a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the
winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits.

I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed
but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up
to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it
doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off.


Thats great. If your weather ever gets as bad as it does in Halifax, you'll
be ready for it. ;-)

--
No more bull****

Duh!
Richard probably gets a bit more privacy of the colder weather than we do.. Since we're almost surrounded by the Atlantic, our weather is moderated by it. Dampness and high winds are probably worse up here. Snow, on the other hand, might be similar since most of our storms seem to come up from the Boston states.



What the 'ell? Spell check put "privacy" in. Must be a repugnant program

justan April 24th 21 06:00 PM

Windows ARM
 
True North Wrote in message:r
On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 10:29:54 UTC-3, True North wrote: On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 09:43:55 UTC-3, undefined wrote: On 4/24/21 5:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote: On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. * Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine. I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a while ago and most of them are gone. I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and everything. ;-) I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is also my FAX machine. I don't use that either. OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive. I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with something that works. Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told" Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze setup to run a few of my old, favorite games. Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner. I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never used it because all she uses now is her iPhone. She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took almost three hours to download and install. Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection. Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream, NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff. Other than the long updating process, it works great. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com Does that shed have minimal heat all winter? I'd be concerned about dampness up here. One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it. It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall. I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits. I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off. Thats great. If your weather ever gets as bad as it does in Halifax, you'll be ready for it. ;-) -- No more bull**** Duh! Richard probably gets a bit more privacy of the colder weather than we do. Since we're almost surrounded by the Atlantic, our weather is moderated by it. Dampness and high winds are probably worse up here. Snow, on the other hand, might be similar since most of our storms seem to come up from the Boston states.What the 'ell? Spell check put "privacy" in. Must be a repugnant program


Spela cheka throw in "Boston states" too? Dummy!
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Bill[_12_] April 24th 21 06:35 PM

Windows ARM
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/24/21 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2021 6:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago.Â* She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed.Â* It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now.Â* I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall.Â* Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Â*Â* Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



Wasn't my experience when I had the last Mac I tried.Â* Forget what it
was called but it was a large screen, all in one model.Â* When Apple
would change the OS from time to time it took forever to download
and install.



Might be related to the speed of your internet connection, the
capability of your wifi or hardwired port, the speed of your hard drive.




Mine upgrades in the middle of the night, but seeing how long the iPad
takes, is not that fast.


Bill[_12_] April 24th 21 06:36 PM

Windows ARM
 
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 09:43:55 UTC-3, undefined wrote:
On 4/24/21 5:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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https://www.avg.com


Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.



One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it.
It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus
a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall.

I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on
a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the
winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits.

I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed
but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up
to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it
doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off.


Thats great. If your weather ever gets as bad as it does in Halifax, you'll
be ready for it. ;-)

--
No more bull****



Duh!
Richard probably gets a bit more privacy of the colder weather than we
do. Since we're almost surrounded by the Atlantic, our weather is
moderated by it. Dampness and high winds are probably worse up here.
Snow, on the other hand, might be similar since most of our storms seem
to come up from the Boston states.


Richard probably gets a bit more privacy of the colder weather than we do.


What the heck does that mean?


Keyser Söze[_3_] April 24th 21 07:47 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/24/21 1:35 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/24/21 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2021 6:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago.Â* She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed.Â* It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now.Â* I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall.Â* Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Â*Â* Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



Wasn't my experience when I had the last Mac I tried.Â* Forget what it
was called but it was a large screen, all in one model.Â* When Apple
would change the OS from time to time it took forever to download
and install.



Might be related to the speed of your internet connection, the
capability of your wifi or hardwired port, the speed of your hard drive.




Mine upgrades in the middle of the night, but seeing how long the iPad
takes, is not that fast.


There are a lot of variables, including how many folks are hitting the
update servers and slamming them.

--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Mr. Luddite[_6_] April 24th 21 08:31 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/24/2021 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:54:14 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.


He's not really talking about a "full" OS update, that's just a small, incremental update on a Mac. Luddite was updating a PC that hadn't been updated for nearly 1-1/2 years. Huge difference. PC incremental updates are 2-5 minutes, and a huge OS release is 20-30 minutes.
Having worked with both platforms, side-by-side in corporate environment, a Mac is only marginally better about needing updates. That's driven by the fact the PC's are targeted continually by hackers, and Mac's aren't. Mac users are in the extreme minority.

"Statistics show that Microsoft Windows has approximately 91% of the market share, while the Apple Mac OS has around 5% of the market share. The other 4% is owned by other operating systems such as Linux."

Why would a hacker waste their time on the Mac platform? Write a hack that can hit 91% of the market, or one that can get just 5%?

And why the huge disparity in market share? In the past, Macs had better graphics and were superior game machines, but at a hefty cost. If you needed to do work, PC's were your obvious choice. Now the graphics performance is even, so there's not much of a reason to go with a Mac anymore, except to be different. Hell, people with Macs are running Windows on them so they can run Windows programs! Can you say "duh"?


I think you're right. I just got a Windows notice about two more
updates that needed to be installed. They are automatically
downloaded but not installed until you do a "restart" (re-boot).

The two additional updates took about 10 minutes for both.

My Internet service isn't the fastest available but it's not
the slowest. It's advertised as being over 100 mbs. I've done
speed checks and during the busiest time of the day it typically
runs at about 80mbs. I've seen it go as high as 130 or so though.

It seems fast enough for two smart TVs for streaming stuff, two
computers (although one is connected via ethernet cable), and two
smartphones.

For some reason the data rate to the extender is slightly higher
than to the main router (or "Gateway" as they now call it).

Xfinity claims the X1 Gateway we have is capable of 1 gigabytes/sec.

Don't see any reason for that.

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https://www.avg.com


[email protected] April 25th 21 04:30 AM

Windows ARM
 
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 22:10:39 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


I bet you update more than every 444 days ;-)

I know when I was loading XP, if I started with an SP2 disk and put
SP3 on it from CD then turned updates loose it was a take a nap sort
of thing. I usually started it and went to bed but that was 6 years of
updates. 137 as I recall. It rebooted several times.

Alex[_23_] April 25th 21 04:39 AM

Windows ARM
 
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 10:29:54 UTC-3, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 09:43:55 UTC-3, undefined wrote:
On 4/24/21 5:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *
Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.
I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.

Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.


One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it.
It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus
a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall.

I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on
a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the
winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits.

I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed
but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up
to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it
doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off.


Thats great. If your weather ever gets as bad as it does in Halifax, you'll
be ready for it. ;-)

--
No more bull****

Duh!
Richard probably gets a bit more privacy of the colder weather than we do. Since we're almost surrounded by the Atlantic, our weather is moderated by it. Dampness and high winds are probably worse up here. Snow, on the other hand, might be similar since most of our storms seem to come up from the Boston states.


What the 'ell? Spell check put "privacy" in. Must be a repugnant program


User error.

[email protected] April 25th 21 04:48 AM

Windows ARM
 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 08:39:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com



Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.


I use the shed just about every day for something.
Sometimes it's just sitting watching TV.
So, I put the heater on in the morning. Once it
gets warm inside, it stays warm for quite a while,
even with the heater off.
No problems with dampness.


I think I would set it back to 40 or so all the time. With any heat at
all I doubt moisture is your problem. I would be way more worried
about ESD. That RH has to be 20 or something. I forgot about that in
Colorado and fried a USB port in one of my laptops. Fortunately I had
a USB PCMCIA card in my bag of tricks so I didn't lose much. It is
still running playing the slide show in the Tiki bar

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bud%20light%20sign.jpg

[email protected] April 25th 21 05:08 AM

Windows ARM
 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 15:31:39 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/24/2021 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:54:14 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.


He's not really talking about a "full" OS update, that's just a small, incremental update on a Mac. Luddite was updating a PC that hadn't been updated for nearly 1-1/2 years. Huge difference. PC incremental updates are 2-5 minutes, and a huge OS release is 20-30 minutes.
Having worked with both platforms, side-by-side in corporate environment, a Mac is only marginally better about needing updates. That's driven by the fact the PC's are targeted continually by hackers, and Mac's aren't. Mac users are in the extreme minority.

"Statistics show that Microsoft Windows has approximately 91% of the market share, while the Apple Mac OS has around 5% of the market share. The other 4% is owned by other operating systems such as Linux."

Why would a hacker waste their time on the Mac platform? Write a hack that can hit 91% of the market, or one that can get just 5%?

And why the huge disparity in market share? In the past, Macs had better graphics and were superior game machines, but at a hefty cost. If you needed to do work, PC's were your obvious choice. Now the graphics performance is even, so there's not much of a reason to go with a Mac anymore, except to be different. Hell, people

with Macs are running Windows on them so they can run Windows programs! Can you say "duh"?


I think you're right. I just got a Windows notice about two more
updates that needed to be installed. They are automatically
downloaded but not installed until you do a "restart" (re-boot).

The two additional updates took about 10 minutes for both.

My Internet service isn't the fastest available but it's not
the slowest. It's advertised as being over 100 mbs. I've done
speed checks and during the busiest time of the day it typically
runs at about 80mbs. I've seen it go as high as 130 or so though.

It seems fast enough for two smart TVs for streaming stuff, two
computers (although one is connected via ethernet cable), and two
smartphones.

For some reason the data rate to the extender is slightly higher
than to the main router (or "Gateway" as they now call it).

Xfinity claims the X1 Gateway we have is capable of 1 gigabytes/sec.

Don't see any reason for that.


The 1 gig thing is talking about the LAN. I have 1gb switches on a lot
of my network too. There is one leg that has old stuff on it and runs
at 100mb. The 1gb is good if you are file sharing tho.
Your WAN (the internet side of the "gate") still runs at the speed of
your connection. Then you have the WiFi part and that speed depends on
the protocol. (2.4mz or 5mz and the different modes in each)

This will tell you all about it.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-products.html

justan April 25th 21 01:45 PM

Windows ARM
 
Alex Wrote in message:r
True North wrote: On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 10:29:54 UTC-3, True North wrote: On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 09:43:55 UTC-3, undefined wrote: On 4/24/21 5:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote: On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech. I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. * Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine. I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a while ago and most of them are gone. I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and everything. ;-) I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is also my FAX machine. I don't use that either. OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive. I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with something that works. Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told" Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze setup to run a few of my old, favorite games. Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner. I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never used it because all she uses now is her iPhone. She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took almost three hours to download and install. Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection. Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream, NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff. Other than the long updating process, it works great. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com Does that shed have minimal heat all winter? I'd be concerned about dampness up here. One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it. It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall. I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits. I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off. Thats great. If your weather ever gets as bad as it does in Halifax, you'll be ready for it. ;-) -- No more bull**** Duh! Richard probably gets a bit more privacy of the colder weather than we do. Since we're almost surrounded by the Atlantic, our weather is moderated by it. Dampness and high winds are probably worse up here. Snow, on the other hand, might be similar since most of our storms seem to come up from the Boston states. What the 'ell? Spell check put "privacy" in. Must be a repugnant programUser error.


Or a loose nut at the keyboard.
--
Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet?


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Keyser Söze[_3_] April 25th 21 02:45 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/25/21 12:08 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 15:31:39 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/24/2021 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:54:14 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.

He's not really talking about a "full" OS update, that's just a small, incremental update on a Mac. Luddite was updating a PC that hadn't been updated for nearly 1-1/2 years. Huge difference. PC incremental updates are 2-5 minutes, and a huge OS release is 20-30 minutes.
Having worked with both platforms, side-by-side in corporate environment, a Mac is only marginally better about needing updates. That's driven by the fact the PC's are targeted continually by hackers, and Mac's aren't. Mac users are in the extreme minority.

"Statistics show that Microsoft Windows has approximately 91% of the market share, while the Apple Mac OS has around 5% of the market share. The other 4% is owned by other operating systems such as Linux."

Why would a hacker waste their time on the Mac platform? Write a hack that can hit 91% of the market, or one that can get just 5%?

And why the huge disparity in market share? In the past, Macs had better graphics and were superior game machines, but at a hefty cost. If you needed to do work, PC's were your obvious choice. Now the graphics performance is even, so there's not much of a reason to go with a Mac anymore, except to be different. Hell, people

with Macs are running Windows on them so they can run Windows programs! Can you say "duh"?


I think you're right. I just got a Windows notice about two more
updates that needed to be installed. They are automatically
downloaded but not installed until you do a "restart" (re-boot).

The two additional updates took about 10 minutes for both.

My Internet service isn't the fastest available but it's not
the slowest. It's advertised as being over 100 mbs. I've done
speed checks and during the busiest time of the day it typically
runs at about 80mbs. I've seen it go as high as 130 or so though.

It seems fast enough for two smart TVs for streaming stuff, two
computers (although one is connected via ethernet cable), and two
smartphones.

For some reason the data rate to the extender is slightly higher
than to the main router (or "Gateway" as they now call it).

Xfinity claims the X1 Gateway we have is capable of 1 gigabytes/sec.

Don't see any reason for that.


The 1 gig thing is talking about the LAN. I have 1gb switches on a lot
of my network too. There is one leg that has old stuff on it and runs
at 100mb. The 1gb is good if you are file sharing tho.
Your WAN (the internet side of the "gate") still runs at the speed of
your connection. Then you have the WiFi part and that speed depends on
the protocol. (2.4mz or 5mz and the different modes in each)

This will tell you all about it.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-products.html


Comcast (Xfinity) advertises *commercial* ($$$) internet connectivity
rates of up to two gigs a second. I don't know how it accomplishes that.
We typically get download speeds of 425-500 Mbps, or half a gig, if
there isn't a lot of traffic on the lines at a given moment. Those
speeds seem the same whether I am hard-wire plugged into the router or
using wifi. Upload speeds here run 12-20 Mbps, but we typically just
upload emails and such, so it really doesn't matter.

--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Keyser Söze[_3_] April 25th 21 02:51 PM

Windows ARM
 
On 4/24/21 11:30 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 22:10:39 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


I bet you update more than every 444 days ;-)

I know when I was loading XP, if I started with an SP2 disk and put
SP3 on it from CD then turned updates loose it was a take a nap sort
of thing. I usually started it and went to bed but that was 6 years of
updates. 137 as I recall. It rebooted several times.


I run the latest IOS "beta" on my iPad, and it just updated from 14.5 to
14.6 in about eight minutes, including the download, the verification,
and the install. I used to keep track of how large these updates were,
but I rarely bother anymore. I don't run betas on my iPhone.

--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

[email protected] April 25th 21 03:16 PM

Windows ARM
 
On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 09:45:02 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/25/21 12:08 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 15:31:39 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/24/2021 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:54:14 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.

He's not really talking about a "full" OS update, that's just a small, incremental update on a Mac. Luddite was updating a PC that hadn't been updated for nearly 1-1/2 years. Huge difference. PC incremental updates are 2-5 minutes, and a huge OS release is 20-30 minutes.
Having worked with both platforms, side-by-side in corporate environment, a Mac is only marginally better about needing updates. That's driven by the fact the PC's are targeted continually by hackers, and Mac's aren't. Mac users are in the extreme minority.

"Statistics show that Microsoft Windows has approximately 91% of the market share, while the Apple Mac OS has around 5% of the market share. The other 4% is owned by other operating systems such as Linux."

Why would a hacker waste their time on the Mac platform? Write a hack that can hit 91% of the market, or one that can get just 5%?

And why the huge disparity in market share? In the past, Macs had better graphics and were superior game machines, but at a hefty cost. If you needed to do work, PC's were your obvious choice. Now the graphics performance is even, so there's not much of a reason to go with a Mac anymore, except to be different. Hell,

people
with Macs are running Windows on them so they can run Windows programs! Can you say "duh"?


I think you're right. I just got a Windows notice about two more
updates that needed to be installed. They are automatically
downloaded but not installed until you do a "restart" (re-boot).

The two additional updates took about 10 minutes for both.

My Internet service isn't the fastest available but it's not
the slowest. It's advertised as being over 100 mbs. I've done
speed checks and during the busiest time of the day it typically
runs at about 80mbs. I've seen it go as high as 130 or so though.

It seems fast enough for two smart TVs for streaming stuff, two
computers (although one is connected via ethernet cable), and two
smartphones.

For some reason the data rate to the extender is slightly higher
than to the main router (or "Gateway" as they now call it).

Xfinity claims the X1 Gateway we have is capable of 1 gigabytes/sec.

Don't see any reason for that.


The 1 gig thing is talking about the LAN. I have 1gb switches on a lot
of my network too. There is one leg that has old stuff on it and runs
at 100mb. The 1gb is good if you are file sharing tho.
Your WAN (the internet side of the "gate") still runs at the speed of
your connection. Then you have the WiFi part and that speed depends on
the protocol. (2.4mz or 5mz and the different modes in each)

This will tell you all about it.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-products.html


Comcast (Xfinity) advertises *commercial* ($$$) internet connectivity
rates of up to two gigs a second. I don't know how it accomplishes that.
We typically get download speeds of 425-500 Mbps, or half a gig, if
there isn't a lot of traffic on the lines at a given moment. Those
speeds seem the same whether I am hard-wire plugged into the router or
using wifi. Upload speeds here run 12-20 Mbps, but we typically just
upload emails and such, so it really doesn't matter.


For the most part that number is just gee whiz information anyway
since the servers you are connected to can't maintain that data rate
or anything even close. It really isn't important until you get a lot
of users on at your end.


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