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The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****!
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote:
The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. |
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. The democrats owe him a big wet kiss. Maybe he still is a democrat after all. The $2,000 check was his idea too. |
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On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 5:06:08 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. The democrats owe him a big wet kiss. Maybe he still is a democrat after all. The $2,000 check was his idea too. Too bad there wasn't a recorder on the airplane in Phoenix. The conversation between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch would have been mesmerizing! Trump is sloppy, but is hardly the first, or the dirtiest. |
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote:The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****!https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...l.mp3===Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot ofcredit for pushing back so forthrightly.How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy afterthat conversation is beyond me. Wrong Wrong Wrong. You must be thinking of Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Shiff, Cuomo, et all. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:45:20 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:
Wayne B Wrote in message:r On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote:The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****!https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...l.mp3===Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot ofcredit for pushing back so forthrightly.How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy afterthat conversation is beyond me. Wrong Wrong Wrong. You must be thinking of Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Shiff, Cuomo, et all. The bull**** 'threat to Democracy' line is getting very old and misused! -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. |
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Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. Problem is not new. The last three Republicans elected as President had the Democrats in Congress try to toss out electoral votes. Not as bad as this election, but it is not new. |
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On 1/5/21 5:18 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. Problem is not new. The last three Republicans elected as President had the Democrats in Congress try to toss out electoral votes. Not as bad as this election, but it is not new. Your attempts to rationalize the abhorrent behavior of Trump and the GOP are pathetic. -- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/5/21 5:18 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. Problem is not new. The last three Republicans elected as President had the Democrats in Congress try to toss out electoral votes. Not as bad as this election, but it is not new. Your attempts to rationalize the abhorrent behavior of Trump and the GOP are pathetic. Not trying to rationalize, but let’s get the facts straight. I realize you do not care for facts that show you or your party in a bad light. |
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On 1/5/21 6:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/5/21 5:18 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. Problem is not new. The last three Republicans elected as President had the Democrats in Congress try to toss out electoral votes. Not as bad as this election, but it is not new. Your attempts to rationalize the abhorrent behavior of Trump and the GOP are pathetic. Not trying to rationalize, but let’s get the facts straight. I realize you do not care for facts that show you or your party in a bad light. Trump and the GOP have raised political corruption to a level never seen before in this country and hopefully will never be seen again. -- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:45:25 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. The whole last 4 years sets quite a number of bad precedents. The unrelenting attack on the presidency is far worse that the GW Bush administration, Clinton or even Nixon in the middle of Watergate. There doesn't seem to be anything out of bounds these days. When a TV person can call the president's daughter a "feckless ****" on the air and not even have a ripple in their career, something has gone terribly wrong. Amy Schumer makes Roseanne look like a saint and Roseanne lost her job over an off the air comment that was a lot more innocuous. When they start viciously attacking Biden, his wife and his children, with the most scurrilous comments, don't say it is unprecedented. No, it has been made mainstream. |
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:26:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/5/21 7:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:45:25 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. The whole last 4 years sets quite a number of bad precedents. The unrelenting attack on the presidency is far worse that the GW Bush administration, Clinton or even Nixon in the middle of Watergate. There doesn't seem to be anything out of bounds these days. When a TV person can call the president's daughter a "feckless ****" on the air and not even have a ripple in their career, something has gone terribly wrong. Amy Schumer makes Roseanne look like a saint and Roseanne lost her job over an off the air comment that was a lot more innocuous. When they start viciously attacking Biden, his wife and his children, with the most scurrilous comments, don't say it is unprecedented. No, it has been made mainstream. Which Trump daughter is the feckless ****? === https://www.google.com/search?q=president%27s+daughter+a+%22feckless+**** %22&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS925US925&oq=president%27s+daug hter+a+%22feckless+****%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.4257j 0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 |
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On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 7:35:50 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:26:12 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/5/21 7:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:45:25 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. The whole last 4 years sets quite a number of bad precedents. The unrelenting attack on the presidency is far worse that the GW Bush administration, Clinton or even Nixon in the middle of Watergate. There doesn't seem to be anything out of bounds these days. When a TV person can call the president's daughter a "feckless ****" on the air and not even have a ripple in their career, something has gone terribly wrong. Amy Schumer makes Roseanne look like a saint and Roseanne lost her job over an off the air comment that was a lot more innocuous. When they start viciously attacking Biden, his wife and his children, with the most scurrilous comments, don't say it is unprecedented. No, it has been made mainstream. Which Trump daughter is the feckless ****? === https://www.google.com/search?q=president%27s+daughter+a+%22feckless+**** %22&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS925US925&oq=president%27s+daug hter+a+%22feckless+****%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.4257j 0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 What kind of feckless **** is Samantha Bee? Never heard of her. |
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:26:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/5/21 7:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:45:25 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. The whole last 4 years sets quite a number of bad precedents. The unrelenting attack on the presidency is far worse that the GW Bush administration, Clinton or even Nixon in the middle of Watergate. There doesn't seem to be anything out of bounds these days. When a TV person can call the president's daughter a "feckless ****" on the air and not even have a ripple in their career, something has gone terribly wrong. Amy Schumer makes Roseanne look like a saint and Roseanne lost her job over an off the air comment that was a lot more innocuous. When they start viciously attacking Biden, his wife and his children, with the most scurrilous comments, don't say it is unprecedented. No, it has been made mainstream. Which Trump daughter is the feckless ****? No TV in the basement? |
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:59:15 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 7:35:50 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:26:12 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/5/21 7:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:45:25 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. The whole last 4 years sets quite a number of bad precedents. The unrelenting attack on the presidency is far worse that the GW Bush administration, Clinton or even Nixon in the middle of Watergate. There doesn't seem to be anything out of bounds these days. When a TV person can call the president's daughter a "feckless ****" on the air and not even have a ripple in their career, something has gone terribly wrong. Amy Schumer makes Roseanne look like a saint and Roseanne lost her job over an off the air comment that was a lot more innocuous. When they start viciously attacking Biden, his wife and his children, with the most scurrilous comments, don't say it is unprecedented. No, it has been made mainstream. Which Trump daughter is the feckless ****? === https://www.google.com/search?q=president%27s+daughter+a+%22feckless+**** %22&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS925US925&oq=president%27s+daug hter+a+%22feckless+****%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.4257j 0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 What kind of feckless **** is Samantha Bee? Never heard of her. You are right, it was Sam B, not Amy Schumer, Sorry Amy. |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:45:25 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. Compare this to Trump and Harry: Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder Grandiose sense of self-importance Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things. Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player. Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality. Needs constant praise and admiration A narcissist’s sense of superiority is like a balloon that gradually loses air without a steady stream of applause and recognition to keep it inflated. The occasional compliment is not enough. Narcissists need constant food for their ego, so they surround themselves with people who are willing to cater to their obsessive craving for affirmation. These relationships are very one-sided. It’s all about what the admirer can do for the narcissist, never the other way around. And if there is ever an interruption or diminishment in the admirer’s attention and praise, the narcissist treats it as a betrayal. Sense of entitlement Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder. Exploits others without guilt or shame Narcissists never develop the ability to identify with the feelings of others—to put themselves in other people’s shoes. In other words, they lack empathy. In many ways, they view the people in their lives as objects—there to serve their needs. As a consequence, they don’t think twice about taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends. Sometimes this interpersonal exploitation is malicious, but often it is simply oblivious. Narcissists simply don’t think about how their behavior affects others. And if you point it out, they still won’t truly get it. The only thing they understand is their own needs. Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line https://www.helpguide.org/articles/m...y-disorder.htm -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote:
China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. |
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Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Wow. Herring the Racist is still obsessed with me. Funny and sad,bigly. -- Lock Trump Up |
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:05:09 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Yes, I believe he's done a lot of damage to the Republican party. I am part of that large section of the population who believes there was a lot of Democrat controlled foul play in this election. Enough to make a difference? I don't know. But when states violate their own constitutions, something is amiss. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:51:43 -0500, John wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:05:09 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Yes, I believe he's done a lot of damage to the Republican party. I am part of that large section of the population who believes there was a lot of Democrat controlled foul play in this election. Enough to make a difference? I don't know. But when states violate their own constitutions, something is amiss. === Claims of foul play and constitutional violations should be investigated and substantiated. Rumor and inuendo is not enough. Plenty of Republicans are still being elected so the chances of selective foul play at only the presidential level seem unlikely. More likely to me is that large numbers of people began to see through Trump's dishonest bluff and bluster, enough for him to not only lose the popular vote in a big way, but also the electoral vote. |
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On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 7:35:50 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:26:12 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/5/21 7:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:45:25 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:54:14 -0500, John wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:39:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:01 -0500, John wrote: The boy is hurting our Senate chances in GA. What a dumb ****! https://ix.cnn.io/audio/20210102-tru...phone-call.mp3 === Beyond stupid, probably criminal. I give Raffensperger a lot of credit for pushing back so forthrightly. How anyone could believe that Trump is not a threat to democracy after that conversation is beyond me. China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. The whole last 4 years sets quite a number of bad precedents. The unrelenting attack on the presidency is far worse that the GW Bush administration, Clinton or even Nixon in the middle of Watergate. There doesn't seem to be anything out of bounds these days. When a TV person can call the president's daughter a "feckless ****" on the air and not even have a ripple in their career, something has gone terribly wrong. Amy Schumer makes Roseanne look like a saint and Roseanne lost her job over an off the air comment that was a lot more innocuous. When they start viciously attacking Biden, his wife and his children, with the most scurrilous comments, don't say it is unprecedented. No, it has been made mainstream. Which Trump daughter is the feckless ****? === https://www.google.com/search?q=president%27s+daughter+a+%22feckless+**** %22&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS925US925&oq=president%27s+daug hter+a+%22feckless+****%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.4257j 0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 What kind of feckless **** is Samantha Bee? Never heard of her. Not something I would follow, but I would guess the one with all the cosmetic surgery and the overdone fake tits. -- Lock Trump Up! |
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:34:54 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze
wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Wow. Herring the Racist is still obsessed with me. Funny and sad,bigly. Wayne, so as not to hurt your feelings (I imagine) deleted the important part which fits both you and Trump: Compare this to Trump and Harry: Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder Grandiose sense of self-importance Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things. Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player. Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality. Needs constant praise and admiration A narcissist’s sense of superiority is like a balloon that gradually loses air without a steady stream of applause and recognition to keep it inflated. The occasional compliment is not enough. Narcissists need constant food for their ego, so they surround themselves with people who are willing to cater to their obsessive craving for affirmation. These relationships are very one-sided. It’s all about what the admirer can do for the narcissist, never the other way around. And if there is ever an interruption or diminishment in the admirer’s attention and praise, the narcissist treats it as a betrayal. Sense of entitlement Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder. Exploits others without guilt or shame Narcissists never develop the ability to identify with the feelings of others—to put themselves in other people’s shoes. In other words, they lack empathy. In many ways, they view the people in their lives as objects—there to serve their needs. As a consequence, they don’t think twice about taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends. Sometimes this interpersonal exploitation is malicious, but often it is simply oblivious. Narcissists simply don’t think about how their behavior affects others. And if you point it out, they still won’t truly get it. The only thing they understand is their own needs. Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line https://www.helpguide.org/articles/m...y-disorder.htm -- Freedom Isn't Free! -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:07:01 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:51:43 -0500, John wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:05:09 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Yes, I believe he's done a lot of damage to the Republican party. I am part of that large section of the population who believes there was a lot of Democrat controlled foul play in this election. Enough to make a difference? I don't know. But when states violate their own constitutions, something is amiss. === Claims of foul play and constitutional violations should be investigated and substantiated. Rumor and inuendo is not enough. Plenty of Republicans are still being elected so the chances of selective foul play at only the presidential level seem unlikely. More likely to me is that large numbers of people began to see through Trump's dishonest bluff and bluster, enough for him to not only lose the popular vote in a big way, but also the electoral vote. When the investigators and substantiators are part of the foul play and constitutional violations, getting a fair and just outcome is somewhat difficult. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Maybe Trump actually did some good with his cockamamie theories. Maybe we will get better control of our elections. Maybe will stop the dead of Chicago rising each Election Day. Maybe will in California won’t get voters bussed from the citizenship ceremony to the polls to vote. Representative Sanchez did that a few years ago. Legally they could not register until becoming citizens. Maybe will get a better handle on the voting machines. I think Florida in he panhandle had the best system. Paper ballot, you ran through a scanner that told you if it was properly filled out. No duplicates, warned if missing a section, and gave a paper trail. Maybe require ID. And don’t tell me it is racist. The poor require ID for welfare medical visits, etc. |
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:19:18 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Maybe Trump actually did some good with his cockamamie theories. Maybe we will get better control of our elections. Maybe will stop the dead of Chicago rising each Election Day. Maybe will in California won’t get voters bussed from the citizenship ceremony to the polls to vote. Representative Sanchez did that a few years ago. Legally they could not register until becoming citizens. Maybe will get a better handle on the voting machines. I think Florida in he panhandle had the best system. Paper ballot, you ran through a scanner that told you if it was properly filled out. No duplicates, warned if missing a section, and gave a paper trail. Maybe require ID. And don’t tell me it is racist. The poor require ID for welfare medical visits, etc. Harry wants those who've been innoculated for Covid to carry a card. But asking them to carry voting ID is racist. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 11:53:04 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote: What kind of feckless **** is Samantha Bee? Never heard of her. Not something I would follow, but I would guess the one with all the cosmetic surgery and the overdone fake tits. Ah, so that's who Samantha Bee is. Thanks! |
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 12:17:29 -0500, John wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:07:01 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:51:43 -0500, John wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:05:09 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Yes, I believe he's done a lot of damage to the Republican party. I am part of that large section of the population who believes there was a lot of Democrat controlled foul play in this election. Enough to make a difference? I don't know. But when states violate their own constitutions, something is amiss. === Claims of foul play and constitutional violations should be investigated and substantiated. Rumor and inuendo is not enough. Plenty of Republicans are still being elected so the chances of selective foul play at only the presidential level seem unlikely. More likely to me is that large numbers of people began to see through Trump's dishonest bluff and bluster, enough for him to not only lose the popular vote in a big way, but also the electoral vote. When the investigators and substantiators are part of the foul play and constitutional violations, getting a fair and just outcome is somewhat difficult. === So you're convinced that the justice department and supreme court are in on the foul play? That seems unlikely since many of them are Trump appointees and have solid conservative credentials. |
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:19:18 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: I think Florida in he panhandle had the best system. Paper ballot, you ran through a scanner that told you if it was properly filled out. No duplicates, warned if missing a section, and gave a paper trail. All of Florida has been doing that since 2004 I believe. I know all of SW Fla does. We **** canned the electronic machines here after the 2002 mid term election. (only used once) It was another government boondoggle that cost the counties millions. |
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 12:53:51 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 12:17:29 -0500, John wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:07:01 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:51:43 -0500, John wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:05:09 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote: China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not Nigeria. === Agreed that China is a long term external threat. Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be prosecuted to discourage future attempts. No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility. He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people in this country to keep him in check. === Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now have large sections of the population who believe that the election process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other opportunistic misfits that may follow. Yes, I believe he's done a lot of damage to the Republican party. I am part of that large section of the population who believes there was a lot of Democrat controlled foul play in this election. Enough to make a difference? I don't know. But when states violate their own constitutions, something is amiss. === Claims of foul play and constitutional violations should be investigated and substantiated. Rumor and inuendo is not enough. Plenty of Republicans are still being elected so the chances of selective foul play at only the presidential level seem unlikely. More likely to me is that large numbers of people began to see through Trump's dishonest bluff and bluster, enough for him to not only lose the popular vote in a big way, but also the electoral vote. When the investigators and substantiators are part of the foul play and constitutional violations, getting a fair and just outcome is somewhat difficult. === So you're convinced that the justice department and supreme court are in on the foul play? That seems unlikely since many of them are Trump appointees and have solid conservative credentials. Wow, what an assumption! So you're convinced there was *no* foul play? -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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