Why I like Apple, redux
 

The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!


--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.
--
LATIN DEFINITION OF SINISTER ???????

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 14:55:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

Also the I-pad costs significantly more than an Android of the same
basic capability. It is a gamble Apple makes. They have to give away a
free one now and then but they charge enough to eat their real cost of
the product FOB Poon Tang China (basically covered by the $100 you
gave them for the extended warranty).

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/24/20 7:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 14:55:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

Also the I-pad costs significantly more than an Android of the same
basic capability. It is a gamble Apple makes. They have to give away a
free one now and then but they charge enough to eat their real cost of
the product FOB Poon Tang China (basically covered by the $100 you
gave them for the extended warranty).


I have an android tablet, two year old Samsung. Compared to a comparably
sized iPad, it is a P.O.S.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/24/20 7:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.


Uh huh.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!


And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I know a cheap solution that will prevent his charging port from failing
but he can go **** himself.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/25/20 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.


Gee, I wonder what desktop apps I need that aren't covered by Apple and
the developers who produce software that work under Apple operating
systems/hardware. Oh, I also use a bunch of apps that work pretty much
the same on the desktops, the phones, and the tablets. There's even a
tiki bar app to mix drinks, which might be useful if I drank.



Perhaps you might suggest some...

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:54:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.


Gee, I wonder what desktop apps I need that aren't covered by Apple and
the developers who produce software that work under Apple operating
systems/hardware. Oh, I also use a bunch of apps that work pretty much
the same on the desktops, the phones, and the tablets. There's even a
tiki bar app to mix drinks, which might be useful if I drank.



Perhaps you might suggest some...

One that seamlessly connects to my Samsung TV?

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:54:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.


Gee, I wonder what desktop apps I need that aren't covered by Apple and
the developers who produce software that work under Apple operating
systems/hardware. Oh, I also use a bunch of apps that work pretty much
the same on the desktops, the phones, and the tablets. There's even a
tiki bar app to mix drinks, which might be useful if I drank.



Perhaps you might suggest some...

I don't know, Does Apple run DOS programs?

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/25/20 10:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:54:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.


Gee, I wonder what desktop apps I need that aren't covered by Apple and
the developers who produce software that work under Apple operating
systems/hardware. Oh, I also use a bunch of apps that work pretty much
the same on the desktops, the phones, and the tablets. There's even a
tiki bar app to mix drinks, which might be useful if I drank.



Perhaps you might suggest some...

I don't know, Does Apple run DOS programs?

I think it did way back when.
--
LATIN DEFINITION OF SINISTER ???????

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/25/20 10:39 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:54:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.


Gee, I wonder what desktop apps I need that aren't covered by Apple and
the developers who produce software that work under Apple operating
systems/hardware. Oh, I also use a bunch of apps that work pretty much
the same on the desktops, the phones, and the tablets. There's even a
tiki bar app to mix drinks, which might be useful if I drank.



Perhaps you might suggest some...

One that seamlessly connects to my Samsung TV?


There are apps for that.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On 12/25/20 10:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:54:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.


Gee, I wonder what desktop apps I need that aren't covered by Apple and
the developers who produce software that work under Apple operating
systems/hardware. Oh, I also use a bunch of apps that work pretty much
the same on the desktops, the phones, and the tablets. There's even a
tiki bar app to mix drinks, which might be useful if I drank.



Perhaps you might suggest some...

I don't know, Does Apple run DOS programs?


I know there is or was an emulator for that called DOSBOX. I used it
once for grins some years ago. I can't recall any DOS programs I'd want
to run on my MACs, though.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 08:18:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 10:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:54:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.


Gee, I wonder what desktop apps I need that aren't covered by Apple and
the developers who produce software that work under Apple operating
systems/hardware. Oh, I also use a bunch of apps that work pretty much
the same on the desktops, the phones, and the tablets. There's even a
tiki bar app to mix drinks, which might be useful if I drank.



Perhaps you might suggest some...

I don't know, Does Apple run DOS programs?


I know there is or was an emulator for that called DOSBOX. I used it
once for grins some years ago. I can't recall any DOS programs I'd want
to run on my MACs, though.

I still run a couple. I still like dBase for database work. It is a
lot easier and more flexible than Access. People seem to use Excel but
it is really a spreadsheet program that people use as a database
program.
I also have a DOS text editor that does things you can't do in any
Windoze word processing program. There are work arounds with Excel but
that is driving an 18 wheeler to the corner store when all you need is
a bike.

Why I like Apple, redux
 

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 08:18:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 10:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:54:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/20 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:30:37 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:08:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/20 4:41 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:14:12 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

On 12/24/20 2:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/20 2:29 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The charging port on my several year old iPad failed...won't allow the
device to be charged no matter what charger or cable I use. Called
AppleCare, and as the stores are not doing any repair work these days,
at least not around here, Apple said it would send me a return box and
as soon as it received the box back, it would send me a *NEW* iPad of
the same vintage and memory size, at no cost, and if it didn't have one
of my vintage in stock, it would send me a current model.

Oh, and the support guy spoke "American-ese" and was in Pennsylvania.

Happy New Year!



And if you figure what you paid for Apple Care and the repair fee, you most
likely could have bought a new iPad.


I paid $99 total for several years of Apple Care. No repair fee. Free
shipping. Do the math.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

I have a little Apple stock. Doing very well.
So keep on buying.

===

I've never owned any Apple products but have also done OK with the
stock. They have a very loyal customer base and their product designs
are very slick, but overpriced in my opinion.


I used Windoze products exclusively for 20 years and like you thought
Apple stuff was overpriced. I was never impressed with Microsoft tech
support or the support from Windoze hardware suppliers, but I tolerated
it. Since switching to Apple, I've been impressed with the quality of
the hardware, the OS, and the tech support. There's none of that, "Oh,
it must be a Microsoft problem, call them." OR, it's an HP problem, call
them." Whatever issue I have ever had with Apple products or OS or
whatever, I've always gotten good help from English is my first language
tech personnel and followup.

Then there are some of us who don't need tech support. This **** ain't
rocket science.
Usually I can go on a newsgroup or yacking board and get better
information than you get from the company. There are usually hacks
they don't want their people talking about because it might hurt the
sale of another product.

===

Absolutely. That's how I do it.

Harry buys Apple because he doesn't want to know he has a computer. He
bends his needs around what the Apple people tell him he needs.

I know my Dutch buddy Henk was an Apple guy and defended them
vehemently, until he got serious about building custom drones and
Apple simply was not capable of talking to them. He needed something
open source so developers could bend the operation of his phone or
tablet to the needs he had.


Gee, I wonder what desktop apps I need that aren't covered by Apple and
the developers who produce software that work under Apple operating
systems/hardware. Oh, I also use a bunch of apps that work pretty much
the same on the desktops, the phones, and the tablets. There's even a
tiki bar app to mix drinks, which might be useful if I drank.



Perhaps you might suggest some...

I don't know, Does Apple run DOS programs?


I know there is or was an emulator for that called DOSBOX. I used it
once for grins some years ago. I can't recall any DOS programs I'd want
to run on my MACs, though.

I do run DOSBOX for some things, like dBase that make system calls but
some of my stuff will run natively.