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Interesting.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-s...te-11601816400 President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds. Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time. The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them. One wonders what, if any, impact Trump's contracting COVID-19 will have on these polls and the voters. |
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:08:21 -0400, tommy collins
wrote: Interesting. https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-s...te-11601816400 President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds. Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time. The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them. One wonders what, if any, impact Trump's contracting COVID-19 will have on these polls and the voters. It all comes down to if he can recover enough to get back on the trail by the last week of November. Unfortunately the mail in vote hurts that. A lot of people have already voted. If he recovers, he can say "See I told you this was the Flu". If not, he is dead, politically or literally. It does give him an easy out tho. He can blame his loss on Covid, not his popularity. |
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 18:06:45 -0400, tommy collins
wrote: On 10/4/20 5:32 PM, wrote: On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:08:21 -0400, tommy collins wrote: Interesting. https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-s...te-11601816400 President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds. Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time. The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them. One wonders what, if any, impact Trump's contracting COVID-19 will have on these polls and the voters. It all comes down to if he can recover enough to get back on the trail by the last week of November. Unfortunately the mail in vote hurts that. A lot of people have already voted. If he recovers, he can say "See I told you this was the Flu". If not, he is dead, politically or literally. It does give him an easy out tho. He can blame his loss on Covid, not his popularity. You mean of course the last week of October. I don't believe the national race numbers are as close as the poll indicates, but mathematically, a six point lead nationally translates into an Electoral College victory maybe. ![]() What Trump claims if he loses will not matter. Thanks, yes October. I suppose the only thing that might make a difference is if it can be a graceful exit. If he has something else to blame, it might work out easier for everyone. OTOH there is the constitutional question, what if he wins and dies before Jan 6? Would the states change the electors or have them change the way they vote? Constitutionally they could pick anyone they want, regardless of the outcome of the election. State law and the legislators control that process but it really comes down to what the electors decide to do themselves. The Constitution also seems to be silent on whether they can inaugurate a dead guy and then hand it over to the VP. Then there is also the chance that some electors would be legally required to vote for Trump, some vote for Pence and Biden gets his 268 or something. Nancy would select Biden and McConnell would pick Pence for VP, creating a situation that hasn't existed since the 12th amendment (1804) and the cat fight between Adams and Jefferson that brought that amendment to fruition.. I don't really have a dog in this fight, My vote for Dr Jorgensen went in a few days ago but I have a big bowl of popcorn and I am watching. I think we have a pretty good idea how this goes if it makes it to the SCOTUS, particularly if there are 9 of them by then. . |
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#5
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:08:21 -0400, tommy collins
wrote: Interesting. https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-s...te-11601816400 President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds. Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time. The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them. One wonders what, if any, impact Trump's contracting COVID-19 will have on these polls and the voters. Keep prayin' Harry. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#6
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On 10/4/20 5:58 PM, John wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:08:21 -0400, tommy collins wrote: Interesting. https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-s...te-11601816400 President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds. Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tt tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time. The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them. One wonders what, if any, impact Trump's contracting COVID-19 will have on these polls and the voters. Keep prayin' Harry. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Not likely. Hes an atheist. Remember? |
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#7
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 23:02:10 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 10/4/20 5:58 PM, John wrote: On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:08:21 -0400, tommy collins wrote: Interesting. https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-s...te-11601816400 President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday?s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds. Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tt tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden?s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time. The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event?the debate?is having a material effect on Mr. Trump?s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump?s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them. One wonders what, if any, impact Trump's contracting COVID-19 will have on these polls and the voters. Keep prayin' Harry. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Not likely. Hes an atheist. Remember? I remember. He does have this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogta8alHiU -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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