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Justan Ohlphart[_4_] June 13th 20 09:39 PM

Why the riots?
 
6.?There is nothing systemically wrong with the USA. Not racial
injustice. That was gone long ago. Not class warfare. That?s
ancient history. This is a super great country. It?s good to
anyone who is willing to acquire human capital in the form of
education as lawyer, doctor, plumber, or electrician. If there is
a problem, it?s the looters, murderers, and arsonists, and their
pals in the media.

This is a great, great country, and if the media tells you
different, they are lying. And the cops, 99 percent of them, are
great people. Let?s thank them ? not kick them for protecting
us.

Ben Stein said that.
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John[_6_] June 14th 20 12:09 PM

Why the riots?
 
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
wrote:

6.?There is nothing systemically wrong with the USA. Not racial
injustice. That was gone long ago. Not class warfare. That?s
ancient history. This is a super great country. It?s good to
anyone who is willing to acquire human capital in the form of
education as lawyer, doctor, plumber, or electrician. If there is
a problem, it?s the looters, murderers, and arsonists, and their
pals in the media.

This is a great, great country, and if the media tells you
different, they are lying. And the cops, 99 percent of them, are
great people. Let?s thank them ? not kick them for protecting
us.

Ben Stein said that.


Ben has a good head on his shoulders. Nelson Mandella said, "Education is the
most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." But look at the
state of our inner-city schools.

https://wamu.org/story/18/11/12/dcps...most-affected/

All these 'fixes' after Floyd's death won't amount to **** if some basic changes
aren't made. And, those changes have to start with parents. I don't see that
happening any time soon.
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Bill[_12_] June 14th 20 09:49 PM

Why the riots?
 
John wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
wrote:

6.?There is nothing systemically wrong with the USA. Not racial
injustice. That was gone long ago. Not class warfare. That?s
ancient history. This is a super great country. It?s good to
anyone who is willing to acquire human capital in the form of
education as lawyer, doctor, plumber, or electrician. If there is
a problem, it?s the looters, murderers, and arsonists, and their
pals in the media.

This is a great, great country, and if the media tells you
different, they are lying. And the cops, 99 percent of them, are
great people. Let?s thank them ? not kick them for protecting
us.

Ben Stein said that.


Ben has a good head on his shoulders. Nelson Mandella said, "Education is the
most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." But look at the
state of our inner-city schools.

https://wamu.org/story/18/11/12/dcps...most-affected/

All these 'fixes' after Floyd's death won't amount to **** if some basic changes
aren't made. And, those changes have to start with parents. I don't see that
happening any time soon.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Looking at the article, says nothing is being done to actually educate
kids. More on improvement of tracking. Worst thing we did to schools was
letting the academics change the schools to all college prep and hoping the
kids who should have been in shop class, etc. went to community college to
learn. Admit all kids are not geniuses or excited to learn calculus.


[email protected] June 15th 20 05:34 AM

Why the riots?
 
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 20:49:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
wrote:

6.?There is nothing systemically wrong with the USA. Not racial
injustice. That was gone long ago. Not class warfare. That?s
ancient history. This is a super great country. It?s good to
anyone who is willing to acquire human capital in the form of
education as lawyer, doctor, plumber, or electrician. If there is
a problem, it?s the looters, murderers, and arsonists, and their
pals in the media.

This is a great, great country, and if the media tells you
different, they are lying. And the cops, 99 percent of them, are
great people. Let?s thank them ? not kick them for protecting
us.

Ben Stein said that.


Ben has a good head on his shoulders. Nelson Mandella said, "Education is the
most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." But look at the
state of our inner-city schools.

https://wamu.org/story/18/11/12/dcps...most-affected/

All these 'fixes' after Floyd's death won't amount to **** if some basic changes
aren't made. And, those changes have to start with parents. I don't see that
happening any time soon.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Looking at the article, says nothing is being done to actually educate
kids. More on improvement of tracking. Worst thing we did to schools was
letting the academics change the schools to all college prep and hoping the
kids who should have been in shop class, etc. went to community college to
learn. Admit all kids are not geniuses or excited to learn calculus.


They don't even teach basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills in
the schools where these problem kids are. It is really hard to direct
help to that demographic since we are not allowed to single anyone
out.

John[_6_] June 15th 20 11:38 AM

Why the riots?
 
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:34:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 20:49:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
wrote:

6.?There is nothing systemically wrong with the USA. Not racial
injustice. That was gone long ago. Not class warfare. That?s
ancient history. This is a super great country. It?s good to
anyone who is willing to acquire human capital in the form of
education as lawyer, doctor, plumber, or electrician. If there is
a problem, it?s the looters, murderers, and arsonists, and their
pals in the media.

This is a great, great country, and if the media tells you
different, they are lying. And the cops, 99 percent of them, are
great people. Let?s thank them ? not kick them for protecting
us.

Ben Stein said that.

Ben has a good head on his shoulders. Nelson Mandella said, "Education is the
most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." But look at the
state of our inner-city schools.

https://wamu.org/story/18/11/12/dcps...most-affected/

All these 'fixes' after Floyd's death won't amount to **** if some basic changes
aren't made. And, those changes have to start with parents. I don't see that
happening any time soon.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Looking at the article, says nothing is being done to actually educate
kids. More on improvement of tracking. Worst thing we did to schools was
letting the academics change the schools to all college prep and hoping the
kids who should have been in shop class, etc. went to community college to
learn. Admit all kids are not geniuses or excited to learn calculus.


They don't even teach basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills in
the schools where these problem kids are. It is really hard to direct
help to that demographic since we are not allowed to single anyone
out.


The unions protect the teachers and many parents don't give a ****.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

[email protected] June 15th 20 04:30 PM

Why the riots?
 
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 06:38:19 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:34:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 20:49:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
wrote:

6.?There is nothing systemically wrong with the USA. Not racial
injustice. That was gone long ago. Not class warfare. That?s
ancient history. This is a super great country. It?s good to
anyone who is willing to acquire human capital in the form of
education as lawyer, doctor, plumber, or electrician. If there is
a problem, it?s the looters, murderers, and arsonists, and their
pals in the media.

This is a great, great country, and if the media tells you
different, they are lying. And the cops, 99 percent of them, are
great people. Let?s thank them ? not kick them for protecting
us.

Ben Stein said that.

Ben has a good head on his shoulders. Nelson Mandella said, "Education is the
most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." But look at the
state of our inner-city schools.

https://wamu.org/story/18/11/12/dcps...most-affected/

All these 'fixes' after Floyd's death won't amount to **** if some basic changes
aren't made. And, those changes have to start with parents. I don't see that
happening any time soon.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Looking at the article, says nothing is being done to actually educate
kids. More on improvement of tracking. Worst thing we did to schools was
letting the academics change the schools to all college prep and hoping the
kids who should have been in shop class, etc. went to community college to
learn. Admit all kids are not geniuses or excited to learn calculus.


They don't even teach basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills in
the schools where these problem kids are. It is really hard to direct
help to that demographic since we are not allowed to single anyone
out.


The unions protect the teachers and many parents don't give a ****.


The other problem is when a school system does try to use additional
resources to help kids with remedial learning they get in trouble
because those classes are not racially diverse enough. It looks like
they are stigmatizing black kids for being morons so they just pass
them along without learning basic skills.
You are right about the parents tho. When there are two or three
generations of illiterate parents it is hard to have much of a support
system at home, assuming there is a home.

Bill[_12_] June 15th 20 05:30 PM

Why the riots?
 
wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 06:38:19 -0400, John wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:34:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 20:49:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
wrote:

6.?There is nothing systemically wrong with the USA. Not racial
injustice. That was gone long ago. Not class warfare. That?s
ancient history. This is a super great country. It?s good to
anyone who is willing to acquire human capital in the form of
education as lawyer, doctor, plumber, or electrician. If there is
a problem, it?s the looters, murderers, and arsonists, and their
pals in the media.

This is a great, great country, and if the media tells you
different, they are lying. And the cops, 99 percent of them, are
great people. Let?s thank them ? not kick them for protecting
us.

Ben Stein said that.

Ben has a good head on his shoulders. Nelson Mandella said, "Education is the
most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." But look at the
state of our inner-city schools.

https://wamu.org/story/18/11/12/dcps...most-affected/

All these 'fixes' after Floyd's death won't amount to **** if some basic changes
aren't made. And, those changes have to start with parents. I don't see that
happening any time soon.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Looking at the article, says nothing is being done to actually educate
kids. More on improvement of tracking. Worst thing we did to schools was
letting the academics change the schools to all college prep and hoping the
kids who should have been in shop class, etc. went to community college to
learn. Admit all kids are not geniuses or excited to learn calculus.

They don't even teach basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills in
the schools where these problem kids are. It is really hard to direct
help to that demographic since we are not allowed to single anyone
out.


The unions protect the teachers and many parents don't give a ****.


The other problem is when a school system does try to use additional
resources to help kids with remedial learning they get in trouble
because those classes are not racially diverse enough. It looks like
they are stigmatizing black kids for being morons so they just pass
them along without learning basic skills.
You are right about the parents tho. When there are two or three
generations of illiterate parents it is hard to have much of a support
system at home, assuming there is a home.


Costa Rica has a 95% literacy rate. If a kid is out and about during
school hours the police will stop and find out why. No valid excuse, they
are taken to school. Here, you have a parent complain when the police
detain a 12 year old who is out at 12:30am during rioting.



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