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The Judge makes sense.
Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois.
"Just want everyone to read what the judge said about Illinois Governor Pritzker, and the orders he’s placing on us. Read it with a open mind, and tell me this doesn’t make sense on what the judge said. Not sure you can say it much better. Not asking to pick political sides in this, I just want you to read the examples of what he’s saying.. “Since the inception of this insanity, the following regulations, rules or consequences have occurred: I won't get COVID if I get an abortion, but I will get COVID if I get a colonoscopy. Selling pot is essential, but selling goods and services at a family owned business is not. Pot wasn't even legal and pot dispensaries didn't even exist in this state until five months ago and, in that five months, they have become essential, but a family-owned business in existence for five generations is not. A family of six can pile in their car and drive to Carlyle Lake without contracting COVID but, if they all get in the same boat, they will. We are told that kids rarely contract the virus and sunlight kills it, but summer youth programs, sports programs are cancelled. Four people can drive to the golf course and not get COVID but, if they play in a foursome, they will. If I go to Walmart, I won't get COVID but, if I go to church, I will. Murderers are released from custody while small business owners are threatened with arrest if they have the audacity to attempt to feed their families. These are just a few of examples of rules, regulations and consequences that are arbitrary, capricious, and completely devoid of anything even remotely approaching common sense. State's attorneys in this state, county sheriffs, mayors, city councils and county boards have openly and publicly defied these orders followed by threats to withhold funding and revocation of necessary licenses and certifications unless you obey. Our economy is shut down because of a flu virus with a 98 percent plus survival rate. Doctors and experts say different things weekly. The defendant cites models in his opposition. The only thing experts will agree on is that all models are wrong and some are useful. The Centers for Disease Control now says the virus is not easily spread on surfaces. The defendant in this case orders you to stay home and pronounces that, if you leave the state, you are putting people in danger, but his family members traveled to Florida and Wisconsin because he deems such travel essential. One initial rationale why the rules don't apply to him is that his family farm had animals that needed fed. Try selling that argument to farmers who have had to slaughter their herds because of disruption in the supply chain. When laws do not apply to those who make them, people are not being governed, they are being ruled. Make no mistake, these executive orders are not laws. They are royal decrees. Illinois citizens are not being governed, they are being ruled. The last time I checked, Illinois citizens are also Americans and Americans don't get ruled. The last time a monarch tried to rule Americans, a shot was fired that was heard around the world. That day led to the birth of a nation consensually governed based upon a document which ensures that on this day in this, any American courtroom tyrannical despotism will always lose and liberty, freedom and the constitution will always win.”—Judge Michael D. McHaney, Clay County court, Mainer v. Pritzker, argued May 22, 2020. | |
The Judge makes sense.
On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote:
Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. But doing the same in Walmart is okay according to the rulers. |
The Judge makes sense.
On 5/24/20 2:17 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. But doing the same in Walmart is okay according to the rulers. All the stores open in my neck of the woods require masks and separation. I've been to Lowe's a couple of times recently, and separation in aisles and at the registers was enforced, and you can't get into the store without a mask and unless someone else has just left...crowds are limited. My local gun store requires masks and only allows a couple customers in the store at a time...owner is a friend and we've been joking about all the guys in a gun store wearing masks. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes |
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On Sun, 24 May 2020 14:26:56 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/24/20 2:17 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. But doing the same in Walmart is okay according to the rulers. All the stores open in my neck of the woods require masks and separation. I've been to Lowe's a couple of times recently, and separation in aisles and at the registers was enforced, and you can't get into the store without a mask and unless someone else has just left...crowds are limited. My local gun store requires masks and only allows a couple customers in the store at a time...owner is a friend and we've been joking about all the guys in a gun store wearing masks. If masks are the solution, why are all of the other restrictions necessary? Masks are just a politically correct fashion statement. BTW your state is on the list of "don't bother to try to get a reservation in Florida" so maybe we should not be looking at you for advice. |
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On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. |
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On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes |
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On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois.It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out.-- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Pieceof**** yup -- Warning. Use provided links at your own risk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/20 2:17 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. But doing the same in Walmart is okay according to the rulers. All the stores open in my neck of the woods require masks and separation. I've been to Lowe's a couple of times recently, and separation in aisles and at the registers was enforced, and you can't get into the store without a mask and unless someone else has just left...crowds are limited. My local gun store requires masks and only allows a couple customers in the store at a time...owner is a friend and we've been joking about all the guys in a gun store wearing masks. Home Depot and Lowe’s requires masks, Walmart requires masks. Requests social distancing. Aisles are not one way, and lots of close passing in the stores. Limited to a large amount, maybe not a huuuge amount. |
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No problem here. My county has had only two cases and they’ve recovered.
Keyser Soze - hide quoted text - On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. - show quoted text - |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. |
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Do you realize how stupid your response look?
You must be on Biden’s election team 5:44 PMKeyser Soze - hide quoted text - On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. - show quoted text - |
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On 5/24/2020 11:08 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 2:17 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. But doing the same in Walmart is okay according to the rulers. All the stores open in my neck of the woods require masks and separation. I've been to Lowe's a couple of times recently, and separation in aisles and at the registers was enforced, and you can't get into the store without a mask and unless someone else has just left...crowds are limited. My local gun store requires masks and only allows a couple customers in the store at a time...owner is a friend and we've been joking about all the guys in a gun store wearing masks. Home Depot and Lowe’s requires masks, Walmart requires masks. Requests social distancing. Aisles are not one way, and lots of close passing in the stores. Limited to a large amount, maybe not a huuuge amount. The requirement in Massachusetts to wear a mask applies if you *cannot* always maintain at least a six foot "social distance". In places like supermarkets and even Lowe's/Home Depot it is not always possible to always be six feet from other people, thus the requirement for a mask. Makes sense to me. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Sun, 24 May 2020 10:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. "Just want everyone to read what the judge said about Illinois Governor Pritzker, and the orders hes placing on us. Read it with a open mind, and tell me this doesnt make sense on what the judge said. Not sure you can say it much better. Not asking to pick political sides in this, I just want you to read the examples of what hes saying.. Since the inception of this insanity, the following regulations, rules or consequences have occurred: I won't get COVID if I get an abortion, but I will get COVID if I get a colonoscopy. Selling pot is essential, but selling goods and services at a family owned business is not. Pot wasn't even legal and pot dispensaries didn't even exist in this state until five months ago and, in that five months, they have become essential, but a family-owned business in existence for five generations is not. A family of six can pile in their car and drive to Carlyle Lake without contracting COVID but, if they all get in the same boat, they will. We are told that kids rarely contract the virus and sunlight kills it, but summer youth programs, sports programs are cancelled. Four people can drive to the golf course and not get COVID but, if they play in a foursome, they will. If I go to Walmart, I won't get COVID but, if I go to church, I will. Murderers are released from custody while small business owners are threatened with arrest if they have the audacity to attempt to feed their families. These are just a few of examples of rules, regulations and consequences that are arbitrary, capricious, and completely devoid of anything even remotely approaching common sense. State's attorneys in this state, county sheriffs, mayors, city councils and county boards have openly and publicly defied these orders followed by threats to withhold funding and revocation of necessary licenses and certifications unless you obey. Our economy is shut down because of a flu virus with a 98 percent plus survival rate. Doctors and experts say different things weekly. The defendant cites models in his opposition. The only thing experts will agree on is that all models are wrong and some are useful. The Centers for Disease Control now says the virus is not easily spread on surfaces. The defendant in this case orders you to stay home and pronounces that, if you leave the state, you are putting people in danger, but his family members traveled to Florida and Wisconsin because he deems such travel essential. One initial rationale why the rules don't apply to him is that his family farm had animals that needed fed. Try selling that argument to farmers who have had to slaughter their herds because of disruption in the supply chain. When laws do not apply to those who make them, people are not being governed, they are being ruled. Make no mistake, these executive orders are not laws. They are royal decrees. Illinois citizens are not being governed, they are being ruled. The last time I checked, Illinois citizens are also Americans and Americans don't get ruled. The last time a monarch tried to rule Americans, a shot was fired that was heard around the world. That day led to the birth of a nation consensually governed based upon a document which ensures that on this day in this, any American courtroom tyrannical despotism will always lose and liberty, freedom and the constitution will always win.Judge Michael D. McHaney, Clay County court, Mainer v. Pritzker, argued May 22, 2020. | Well said! -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On 5/24/2020 2:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/24/20 2:17 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. But doing the same in Walmart is okay according to the rulers. All the stores open in my neck of the woods require masks and separation. I've been to Lowe's a couple of times recently, and separation in aisles and at the registers was enforced, and you can't get into the store without a mask and unless someone else has just left...crowds are limited. My local gun store requires masks and only allows a couple customers in the store at a time...owner is a friend and we've been joking about all the guys in a gun store wearing masks. I hope your gun store buddy sanitizes every gun after it's been fondled and sneezed on by every tire kicker making up his mind on which high powered "target" pistol or "target" sniper rifle to wish for. -- Pity Fat Harry. His ability to produce rational thought on his own, no longer exists, if it ever did at all. |
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On Mon, 25 May 2020 03:08:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 2:17 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. But doing the same in Walmart is okay according to the rulers. All the stores open in my neck of the woods require masks and separation. I've been to Lowe's a couple of times recently, and separation in aisles and at the registers was enforced, and you can't get into the store without a mask and unless someone else has just left...crowds are limited. My local gun store requires masks and only allows a couple customers in the store at a time...owner is a friend and we've been joking about all the guys in a gun store wearing masks. Home Depot and Lowe’s requires masks, Walmart requires masks. Requests social distancing. Aisles are not one way, and lots of close passing in the stores. Limited to a large amount, maybe not a huuuge amount. The only places I know of here that require a mask is Costco and Whole Food. I have never been in a Whole Food so I don't know and I don't go to Costco that often. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? The increase in suicides are probably from losing jobs, cannot pay the bills, no social interaction, etc. all results of the SIP orders. Domestic violence up also. |
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On 5/25/2020 1:49 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? The increase in suicides are probably from losing jobs, cannot pay the bills, no social interaction, etc. all results of the SIP orders. Domestic violence up also. There are all kinds of articles about how the suicide rate *might* increase due to various pressures and influences related to covid-19 but none I can find actually provide numbers. In 2018 there were just under 50,000 recorded deaths by suicide in the USA. The deaths due to covid-19 is double that in four months. might increase but to say more -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2020 1:49 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? The increase in suicides are probably from losing jobs, cannot pay the bills, no social interaction, etc. all results of the SIP orders. Domestic violence up also. There are all kinds of articles about how the suicide rate *might* increase due to various pressures and influences related to covid-19 but none I can find actually provide numbers. In 2018 there were just under 50,000 recorded deaths by suicide in the USA. The deaths due to covid-19 is double that in four months. might increase but to say more With a documented increase in domestic violence, not hard to also agree to an increase in suicide |
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On 5/25/2020 3:18 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/25/2020 1:49 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? The increase in suicides are probably from losing jobs, cannot pay the bills, no social interaction, etc. all results of the SIP orders. Domestic violence up also. There are all kinds of articles about how the suicide rate *might* increase due to various pressures and influences related to covid-19 but none I can find actually provide numbers. In 2018 there were just under 50,000 recorded deaths by suicide in the USA. The deaths due to covid-19 is double that in four months. might increase but to say more With a documented increase in domestic violence, not hard to also agree to an increase in suicide Sure ... logical that an increase happens. But, I am arguing against the statement (above) that: "More people died from suicide than COVID." The referenced article goes on to talk about "unprecedented" number of suicide *attempts* but doesn't give any actual numbers. I am hard pressed to believe suicides in the USA more than *doubled* in 4 months over the number for all of 2018. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:51:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: I am hard pressed to believe suicides in the USA more than *doubled* in 4 months over the number for all of 2018. === It would be big news, widely distributed, if it had. Some increase is entirely possible but it will probably be a while before it's statistically significant, and I'd expect significant geographic and demographic differences. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:49:31 -0400, Justan Ohlphart
wrote: On 5/24/2020 2:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 2:17 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. But doing the same in Walmart is okay according to the rulers. All the stores open in my neck of the woods require masks and separation. I've been to Lowe's a couple of times recently, and separation in aisles and at the registers was enforced, and you can't get into the store without a mask and unless someone else has just left...crowds are limited. My local gun store requires masks and only allows a couple customers in the store at a time...owner is a friend and we've been joking about all the guys in a gun store wearing masks. I hope your gun store buddy sanitizes every gun after it's been fondled and sneezed on by every tire kicker making up his mind on which high powered "target" pistol or "target" sniper rifle to wish for. That begs the question, what sanitizer does work without rusting up the firearm? It sure ain't bleach. Maybe mix a little oil in denatured alcohol. |
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On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:11:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/25/2020 1:49 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? The increase in suicides are probably from losing jobs, cannot pay the bills, no social interaction, etc. all results of the SIP orders. Domestic violence up also. There are all kinds of articles about how the suicide rate *might* increase due to various pressures and influences related to covid-19 but none I can find actually provide numbers. In 2018 there were just under 50,000 recorded deaths by suicide in the USA. The deaths due to covid-19 is double that in four months. might increase but to say more This is anecdotal but here you go https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ |
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On Tue, 26 May 2020 05:11:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/25/2020 8:16 PM, wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:11:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/25/2020 1:49 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? The increase in suicides are probably from losing jobs, cannot pay the bills, no social interaction, etc. all results of the SIP orders. Domestic violence up also. There are all kinds of articles about how the suicide rate *might* increase due to various pressures and influences related to covid-19 but none I can find actually provide numbers. In 2018 there were just under 50,000 recorded deaths by suicide in the USA. The deaths due to covid-19 is double that in four months. might increase but to say more This is anecdotal but here you go https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ That's the same article (and link) that I referred to as well as others. It provides no numbers and only says the covid-19 *might* cause an increase in suicides. One doc is quoted as saying, "I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks." Note he said "attempts". I personally question his claim anyway, but I don't know. Maybe it just shows the hyperbole coming out of the medical community, from the ER techs all the way to the top dogs in DC. |
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On Tue, 26 May 2020 05:11:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/25/2020 8:16 PM, wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:11:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/25/2020 1:49 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? The increase in suicides are probably from losing jobs, cannot pay the bills, no social interaction, etc. all results of the SIP orders. Domestic violence up also. There are all kinds of articles about how the suicide rate *might* increase due to various pressures and influences related to covid-19 but none I can find actually provide numbers. In 2018 there were just under 50,000 recorded deaths by suicide in the USA. The deaths due to covid-19 is double that in four months. might increase but to say more This is anecdotal but here you go https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ That's the same article (and link) that I referred to as well as others. It provides no numbers and only says the covid-19 *might* cause an increase in suicides. One doc is quoted as saying, "I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks." Note he said "attempts". I personally question his claim anyway, but I don't know. Maybe it just shows the hyperbole coming out of the medical community, from the ER techs all the way to the top dogs in DC. Add human emotional stability to the list of subjects about which Fretwell has no education, professional, or experience. |
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On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:51:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I am hard pressed to believe suicides in the USA more than *doubled* in 4 months over the number for all of 2018. === It would be big news, widely distributed, if it had. Some increase is entirely possible but it will probably be a while before it's statistically significant, and I'd expect significant geographic and demographic differences. Maybe they list them as COVID deaths and collect money. |
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On 26 May 2020 13:24:50 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 05:11:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/25/2020 8:16 PM, wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:11:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/25/2020 1:49 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/24/2020 11:13 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 5:11 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/24/20 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: Copied from a friend of mine on FB. It makes a lot of sense when you see the lunacy that's going on in Springfield, Illinois. It would be fabulous, Tim, if you and a large crowd of your buddies, hundreds maybe, got together sans masks in a large church for socializing. Just pack 'em in, exchanges lots of hugs and kisses, pass around the wafers, share grape juice cups, and sneezed and coughed all over each other. Oh...and let us know how it works out. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." When he penned that phrase,Harry. it's amazing how he had you in mind. Go for it, but make sure you are among at least 100 of your fellow worshipers of Trump. More people died from suicide than COVID. https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ So shelter in place has negatives also. Maybe church is more necessary than golfing. The arguments about how many people die from suicides, car accidents, etc., compared to covid-19 deaths make no sense to me. If there are precautions that can be taken to control the number of people who contact covid-19 it seems to me that they should be listened to and considered. People don't "catch" a inclination for suicide or a higher risk of a car accident simply by intermingling with other people. If the recommendations for social distancing, self-quarantine, especially if infected, the famous "washing of hands" and don't touch your face had *not* been taken seriously by the general public, this pandemic would be still on the rise exponentially and would eventually affect everyone on the planet. The reason the rise of infections, hospitalizations and deaths are starting to decline is because generally, the public paid attention and cooperated. What if they hadn't? The increase in suicides are probably from losing jobs, cannot pay the bills, no social interaction, etc. all results of the SIP orders. Domestic violence up also. There are all kinds of articles about how the suicide rate *might* increase due to various pressures and influences related to covid-19 but none I can find actually provide numbers. In 2018 there were just under 50,000 recorded deaths by suicide in the USA. The deaths due to covid-19 is double that in four months. might increase but to say more This is anecdotal but here you go https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-1...th-by/6201962/ That's the same article (and link) that I referred to as well as others. It provides no numbers and only says the covid-19 *might* cause an increase in suicides. One doc is quoted as saying, "I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks." Note he said "attempts". I personally question his claim anyway, but I don't know. Maybe it just shows the hyperbole coming out of the medical community, from the ER techs all the way to the top dogs in DC. Add human emotional stability to the list of subjects about which Fretwell has no education, professional, or experience. I don't accept emotional hyperbole with being rational or logical so maybe that is my problem. Just wash your hands and get back to work. Hand wringing never accomplished a damned thing. |
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Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Add human emotional stability to the list of subjects about which Fretwell has no education, professional, or experience. |
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